hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Cencewolf wrote: »

/agree op.

Game is way too easy, offers no sense of accomplishment anymore..

If the rebuttal to this obvious observation is "well they said it wasnt going to be an MMO, and wanted it to be more like yada yada yada so on and so forth..." Well congrats.. They certainly met that mark.. And with it removed all the fun and sense of progression, individuality and rewards that come with a "typical mmo"...

welcome to the age of entitled no-work for reward gaming-

You can always go play WoW if you are too used to the outdated system used by WoW 10 years ago and can't stand the changes of this decade which are clearly better for the gaming community.

Progressions come from skillpoints, passives, abilities that you unlock along the line. It is much deeper than the outdated "+1 damage every level" that WoW 10 years ago.

One more rediculous insinuation that I (and those who want a game to play, not just collect) somehow want this to be at all like WoW.. No...quite the contrary. Wow is garbage and has been since launch.. It largely runs on the social platform "come play this game, its easy..." Which is exactly what you seem to love so much about ESO now..

Grow up, quit with the fanboy bandwagon, or just go play the game.. It is suoer easy, and im sure you wont be dissapointed.

I really like it.

Before One Tamriel came out, my non-vet players had all outleveled the zones they should be questing in because they went on guild events and such. My DC character was 46 and questing in Rivenspire, which is in the 20s. It was ridiculous and boring. And the only loot I was getting was from quest rewards and treasure chests.

And even if I had only stuck to questing with him, since I like to fully complete the map before moving on, I would have outleveled the zones.

Now I can go back with him and finish the zones (and do the same with my other characters) and not ever worry about being overleveled.

If a guildie needs help with a world boss or something, I can go to them on whatever character I'm on, without having to worry that I'm way overleveled and that I'm going to faceroll whatever it is we are going to fight and not give them a chance to pitch in. And I'll get loot and XP to boot.

And for guild events (outside of Cyrodiil), I can bring a character of any level and any alliance and still have fun.

I'm still leveling my characters. Even if they are scaled, they still need skill points and CP and their skills need to be maxed out. I think that's far more significant character progression than the number next to their name.

SexualCabbage wrote: »

Not only was One Tamriel the best update ESO has had thus far, It's probably one of the greatest large-scale update any MMO has ever had. (Alongside A Realm Reborn.)

haha good one

As someone with multiple characters and a leader in a guild designed to help new players I rather like One Tamriel. The way I see it is I can bring one of my main or high level alt characters that I am comfortable with rather then having to create a new toon to run around tamriel with. This allows me to help and craft gear as needed to support guildies.

One Tamriel was the best update this game ever got, period.

Read this very interesting article, they worked towards and on OT a lot longer than most people realise.

http://www.polygon.com/features/2016/10/14/13285014/elder-scrolls-online-one-tamriel-skyrim-mmo

zyk wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Ti_Englesmythe wrote: »

I feel it may be just me, but One Tamriel was a huge setback for ESO. I've seen, many times, that One Tamriel is a way to bring the game in line with the gameplay of Morrowind and Oblivion, but wasn't ESO meant to be an MMORPG?

The Devs themselves have said ESO wasn't meant to be a typical "MMO" like people know of WoW. They meant it to be more like just an RPG, but with other players with you.

Not really. ZOS may now like to call ESO an online RPG, but when ESO launched, it was very much aimed at the WoW and DAOC audiences... and failed to impress them.

The game used to be MUCH more challenging. The original Craglorn delves were more challenging than vet dungeons are today.

When ESO failed with those audiences, ZOS changed course and made ESO into the ultra-casual game it is today.

This is the truth.

Cencewolf wrote: »

Uh,.. You know exactly what im saying.. You just don't like it, oh well.. You will live

We are talking about the outdated level progression system used by WoW 10 years ago, the "+1 damage every level" that has no depth and is so stupid that you defeated armies of undead in a zone then get killed by a freaking mudcrab in the next zone.

Cencewolf wrote: »

Uh,.. Yeah they do.. Lots of people just from reading this thread want a measure of added difficulty stemming from upping ones necessary involvement in order to see numerical gains by elongating the process by which one "progresses" EI: leveling

Clearly you dont fit into the demographic who are tired of repeating the same old "awsome" text prompted quests...maybe when you do, your opinion will shift im betting,

Look at this thread. 95% of the people here like the concept of One Tamriel. Make a poll if you want to, you will see exactly why One Tamriel is going to stay: People love it.

What you are suggesting, is turning the game into an endless grindfest like a typical generic MMO. Kill the same enemies over and over and over, get XP to level up, become more powerful everytime you level up, then go to the next zone and do the same thing again. That system is outdated. It's boring, and repetitive, it's the exact reason why MMO as a genre is dying. Gamers of this decade already have new standards, a game now needs depth, immersion, good storytelling and skill-based gameplay. A boring and repetitive game will die. If you can't keep up with the standard of the new decade, you can always go back playing your grindfest game, I totally respect your opinion, there are no shortage of them and I think we all can name like 10 of them right now. The thing is, all of them are dying.

Cencewolf wrote: »

Well this statement just has no merit.. Sorry,.. "True elder scrolls game? As in the kind were finished with in 30-35 hours and either are forced into replay or to wait for the next? yeah thats... Depressing

Haha. So you hate the Elder Scrolls series. I wonder what you are doing here? The door is over there, behind you. New content means new stories new region to explore, to find out what is happening to the world, new skill-based trials to test your mechanical skills. That's what keeps the game interesting, not some "moar health moar health" enemies so you and your overpowered gear can kill them over and over and over again lol.

Cencewolf wrote: »

you just sound angry,.. If i didnt care about this game (one we share unfortunately) i wouldnt be here advocating a return to the days there was an ounce of difficulty or reason behind it all..but,. Eh,.. mellenials and all,.. Guess its just whats trending these days.. #welfare-epics. #finished-in-15-hours.

Yeah, because killing the same thing over and over again for 200 hours is fun lol. So much fun that the genre is dying. That system worked 10 years ago, because there were no other alternatives. Right now there are just too many better alternatives: competitive games which have amazing skill-based gameplay, RPG games that have amazing storytelling etc. People will play what is more fun. Can't keep up? There are still many games that fulfill your need of grinding, too bad they are all dying. Bethesda and ZOS saw this from miles. They don't want their game to end up dying like all other grindfest MMOs.

Nah I am cool. I am all for more difficulty, I always want mobs in IC to be more dangerous, but your approach will sell the soul of the game - what makes the game good and unique - to freaking Molag Bal, just to fulfil your personal need of a boring grindfest of a generic MMO.

Personally, I like it

I had friends come over from other mmos and met people on guilds and we couldnt get together outside of dungeons. That's horrible in design and a great fix.

Adding quest for mages and fighters guild was a good idea and the idea of the monster sets as well. Adding vet dungeons as well was a good move.

I like that open world bosses require grouping, thats good for any mmo.

Improvements: monster and proc sets. Major problem and im not sure if not allowing it to crit is going to fix it. I wouldnt mind if the sets had costs to them, for example, viper will proc but at a stam cost.

Crafted sets also need major love. Also, maybe changing traits on armor even if a high cost.

Otherwise I am happy with one tameriel

Kodrac wrote: »

If this game isn't fulfilling your WoW needs, there's always WoW for you.

Agreed. Go whine in the WoW forums about the level scaling in Legion.

Ti_Englesmythe wrote: »

When ESO made it's debut, it sounded amazing BECAUSE there were three alliances, three different home areas to explore and quest through.

No.

Taking down faction barriers was the best thing that happened to ESO.

One Tamriel is like the NGE (and CU) of Starwars Galaxies turned backwards.

Kudos to the devs for pulling it of. It was a major overhaul and surely not without difficulties. PvE wise the game has gotten way better. I really enjoy the freedom and going anywhere I please from the start.

Many mmo's promise exploration, but most of the times you hit the levelbarrier of zones so you have to level up to continue exploring. And going back makes little sense because the "noob zones" will provide no challenge. In the end the veteran players are all cramped up in the final zone which is challenging and the leveling zones are dead.

I like One Tamriel...but I don't like the crafting node system.

They should bring back the old crafting nodes system for the base game , including Coldharbour and leave it as it is in DLC Areas and Craglorn.

I hope they will reconsider bringing the old system back....for the base game

No, it's just you.
One Tamriel is awesome.

I was a bit nervous at first about the difficulty in One Tamriel but it really isn't that bad. As long as you keep updating your gear sets, you can pretty much keep up with everything. The only thing that makes me sad is I can no longer solo bosses in public delves.

Rosveen wrote: »

Ti_Englesmythe wrote: »

When ESO made it's debut, it sounded amazing BECAUSE there were three alliances, three different home areas to explore and quest through.

No.

Taking down faction barriers was the best thing that happened to ESO.

Not only that but by making the nonsensical choices they did about Guilds (allowing cross faction guilds, guild access being account wide) they utterly destroyed any "faction v faction" feeling there was any way - the faction barriers were down, and destroyed, from day one. 1T didn't do that.

All The Best