Veg wrote: »

https://youtu.be/Jouw65UsNmg

Looks like we got wrobeled. again.

Yeah uhh no @ZOS_GinaBruno tell @Wrobel to lay off the drugs for the day; I know he loves his house and loves to protect it but this is over the top.
Addition: That looked like it said 21k (THROUGH BLOCK) lmfao

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Heavy Armor

• Rapid Mending: This passive now increases the amount of resources your Heavy Attacks restore by 12/25% from 25/50%.

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Developer Comments

Part of the counterplay against a Heavy Armor enemy is to stop attacking them for a short period (to drop their Wrath stacks and not trigger their Constitution passive), but Rapid Mending made it so they could still restore a significant amount of resources, even if you were trying to avoid them. Reducing this should ensure Heavy Armor is more about constantly taking damage to maximize its strengths.

Yikes. I know a lot of this is good in PvP, but this makes tanking (especially with Templars, who are already being nerfed pretty hard in this patch) far less effective in PvE.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Armor of the Trainee: Reduced the Max Magicka, Stamina, and Health granted by this item set to 1250 from 2500.
Developer Comments

Armor of the Trainee was meant as an introductory set that required no advanced strategy to utilize. The attributes it was providing were too high as you could get the same amount of Stamina that Draugr Hulk’s 5-piece provided, as well as significant Magicka and Health bonuses. This set will now provide less Stamina than the Draugr Hulk 5-piece, but more overall stats.

This change bothers me. You're already sacrificing desirable traits for a mediocre one in Training to get the various attributes. If the issue was that a few quest pieces had strong traits, then they should have been altered, not the set.

Additionally, this reasoning makes literally no sense whatsoever. If a set was created for early no-strategy builds, and the devs feel that's a bad thing, it suggests they must like builds with strategy behind them. Therefore, a build that could strategically incorporate that general purpose set in a clever way with a single niche in mind must be good. So why nerf them?

I'm a fairly new player, but have just finished putting together my first cp160 character. All told, this patch basically ruins that decent-but-not-meta Templar tanking build for Open World content and Normal dungeons in the name of PvP, which I don't play. I get that balancing is a series of hard decisions, but this litany of nerfs nudges me pretty close to making the hard decision not to play any more. That's not a threat, but the reality of the situation: having spent weeks building up a character to find it rendered ineffective is never going to sit well with a player, no matter the thought process behind your changes.

bovardjeff_ESO wrote: »

@Blackfyre20 read the notes again it clearly states crecsent sweep does physical damage WOW you guys are all fricken BLIND
OR were your complains automated and set to comment anyway?

@bovardjeff_ESO If you look past my comment you'll see Gina reply to me and say they indeed just missed it in the notes initially and then they went back and put it in. Maybe take a break from the forums for a bit bud...

Trainee is one of the most popular sets in guild stores. You can't see in battle or in death recap that your enemy is wearing trainee. But I think its very common right now

"You think" is not proof. Trainee is a great foundation to build a hybrid on but you ultimately lack a single strong resource pool to put out top damage and need to run a second set to sustain.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay

Nightblade

• Assassination
  • Death Stroke: Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs to 70 Ultimate from 50 Ultimate.

Developer Comments

With the Nightblade’s high Ultimate generation, Death Stroke is available too frequently for how powerful it is. Increasing the cost keeps its current burst potential while making Nightblades think more tactically about when to use it.

• Shadow
  • Path of Darkness: Increased the damage of this ability and the Refreshing Path morph by 25%.
  • Twisting Path (Path of Darkness morph): Increased the damage of this morph by 32%.

Developer Comments

Increasing the damage of Path of Darkness will improve Magicka Nightblade DPS in PvE (both single-target and AoE), while also making the ability more attractive to use in PvP. This also won’t affect the Nightblade’s already high PvP burst damage.

aaaand still no cloak fixes =\
Is time when cloak isn't removed when u attacked with single target abilities and some types of DoT's and poisons will sometime come?
And what about elusive mist? Why you can't move if the enemys spamming gap closers on you?

Well, this is a bummer, I wanted to get the fully-furnished houses again, I had NO idea that the character template housing deeds took that option away.

Is there ANY way to undo this? I want my pre-furnished houses back, so I can check to make sure they're properly furnished.

Thank you again for the additional "WHY" detail.

50% nerf to Trainee set is way too harsh. The one set that wasn't a cheese just went from strong to unusable. Even for new players its going to be trash compared to a crafted set. If you're going to stick with 1250, it should come in all traits. I think 1750 is more appropriate.

Strife nerf still needs adjusted. Way too big of a nerf to magicka night blades. They need a boost in some way on top of scaling back the nerf. Magicka morphs to incap and surprise attack do not compare.

Glad for stamplar buffs. Hopefully we'll get to see something other than stam sorcs in Cyrodiil.

Still need to revert the CC nerf to Blazing Spear.

Still think 70 incaps are going to be a problem. Two attacks still give them big initial damage, major defile, extra damage over time, a stun, major fracture... Most other classes have to accomplish these buffs/debuffs with a full skill bar, or simply can't at all. Two skills, both of which are their main spammables making these buffs/debuffs 100% uptime. Suggest removing Major Fracture from Surprise Attack and forcing night blades to run Mark Target.

Excited about changes to healing in Cyrodiil. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

ZoS - I may be in the minority, but I'm gonna say it anyway: I like the nerf to Armor of Trainee.

The very fact that end-game players would be using a set purposefully put into the game to help new players is abusive. And spare me the "well, you have to get in with the trainee trait so it's balanced" lie. I got my sharpened sword, sturdy curaiss, and jewelry and so do you.

I've seen people talking about how OP trainee is, but I've yet to see anyone citing OP builds or any other proof that it is OP.

Most top players do not share their builds with streamers and YouTubers.

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Im honestly more disappointed how tiny some of these changes are.

10% less Eye of the Storm damage?
5% less constitution on Black Rose?
10% less Tremorscale damage?

Nerfing in small steps. That's the right way of doing it.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

I don't get it. Magic NBs, already one of the lowest performing classes in both PVE and PVP, got a nerf not only to their main spammable (Strife) but to their ultimate as well. Seriously, was anybody complaining about the magicka morph of Death Stroke? It's the stamina morph that was causing so much forum outrage, and you were told back when you changed it to Disease damage that it was a bad idea, yet you did it anyways. Now magic NBs get nerfed because of it? I don't get it.

The Twisting Path change is one tiny, tiny buff that will do virtually nothing for magic NB's performance in Cyrodiil. I doubt it will even do much for magic NBs in PVE.

Please seriously reconsider every change you've done to magic NB this PTS cycle, even with every other change you've done to armor types and other classes (and the destro passives), magic NB is still going to fall far behind. Our damage is too low. Our mobility is too low. Our skills are buggy (light attack weaving with Strife, Cloak, Grim Focus), too easily countered (Cloak), or underperforming in comparison to similar skills (Impale.) Didn't you ever wonder why so few people play magic NB? It isn't because the concept of a siphon/blood mage isn't appealing to people, it's because playing magic NB is like playing an inferior version magic sorc, and has been that way since the Thieves Guild patch.

This.

After reading this patch notes, I am sure a class change token for PvE nightblades (be it magicka or stamina builds) provided by the crown store would be the icing of the cake for your quarterly results.

As my magicka DK will be my main char now you should seriously overthink a crown store token for shifting achievements onto another toon too. It might make a lot of sense.

Hello, I see that you want to adjust the set of the beginner but please remember that we only find this set in trainer "training" it would be good to readjust this too.

Thank you

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