There is one change I would like to see for pvp specifically. I think there should be less crit damage in pvp. Right now it is a must to run impen on all your armor or you get melted. If crit damage was reduced it would remove the absolute requirement to run so much crit and add diversity of traits in pvp. I would love to run other traits like reinforced, divines, heck even well-fitted. Though I must admit i have not tested all the crit changes i have heard on the pts server yet.
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Tested it on the pts. yeah still taking a solid 1.5 more damage with basic stats on both players. This makes me sad.

Jaronking wrote: »

Paraflex wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

beanofsize wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you guys look into troll king its proccing on the caster with no ally present.

@Jaronking this is working as intended. The set applies to friendly targets. The caster is a friendly target.

That makes no sense you realized that right you can't be friendly to yourself.That's broken it stats when you heal a friendly target which means a group mate or a nearby ally of your alliance.As it is right now its broken and shouldn't work like that.

Actually it worst perfectly fine this is how gossamer and transmutation works in the game it's how ESO defines a friendly target learn to read @Jaronking

It doesn't work perfectly fine because that's not how it should work.If that's how transmutation and grossamer are working then they also need to be fixed.Where am I to read that ESO defines yourself as a friendly target that's just plain idiotic for you to think its working as intended @Paraflex .You are the caster not a friendly target its like saying viper should proc when you take melee damage.Their way this is working as intended.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you please confirm this is how set such as this should work.If that's the cast each of these sets no to be reworded or fixed so 1 person can not heal themselves and get theses bonus it makes no sense.

Serious l2p issue here. This is how these sets have always worked. Friendly targets include yourself, that's ESO basics.

kookster wrote: »

There is one change I would like to see for pvp specifically. I think there should be less crit damage in pvp. Right now it is a must to run impen on all your armor or you get melted. If crit damage was reduced it would remove the absolute requirement to run so much crit and add diversity of traits in pvp. I would love to run other traits like reinforced, divines, heck even well-fitted. Though I must admit i have not tested all the crit changes i have heard on the pts server yet.

I run 7 divines. You just have to incorporate dying into your play strategy.

I'm not being snide about that. I'm completely earnest. Being comfortable with dying makes you more flexible and powerful as a player.

Jaronking wrote: »

Paraflex wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

beanofsize wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you guys look into troll king its proccing on the caster with no ally present.

@Jaronking this is working as intended. The set applies to friendly targets. The caster is a friendly target.

That makes no sense you realized that right you can't be friendly to yourself.That's broken it stats when you heal a friendly target which means a group mate or a nearby ally of your alliance.As it is right now its broken and shouldn't work like that.

Actually it worst perfectly fine this is how gossamer and transmutation works in the game it's how ESO defines a friendly target learn to read @Jaronking

It doesn't work perfectly fine because that's not how it should work.If that's how transmutation and grossamer are working then they also need to be fixed.Where am I to read that ESO defines yourself as a friendly target that's just plain idiotic for you to think its working as intended @Paraflex .You are the caster not a friendly target its like saying viper should proc when you take melee damage.Their way this is working as intended.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you please confirm this is how set such as this should work.If that's the cast each of these sets no to be reworded or fixed so 1 person can not heal themselves and get theses bonus it makes no sense.

MythicEmperor wrote: »

No buff to strife, the spammable already abandoned for Force Pulse by any DPS in competitive situations? The only things that made it not complete garbage were its cheap cost and cool visual, and its purpose seemed to be an entry-level spammable for those who could not yet manage their magicka. Now it is worthless for magblade DPS, unless they are playing solo. Not that magblade deeps exist anymore. It will take more than a buff to path to fix that.

Magblade stealth bomber. It's a thing now.

Also Veil of Blades. I'm a stamblade and I use Veil of Blades instead of Dawnbreaker in PvP, because the life you save is usually your own.

Edit: The overarching point I'm trying to make here is that a class doesn't have to put out the best DPS--or even high DPS--to be good and valuable. Mag NB is excellent area denial and DoT, and now the Destro Ult has given then some awesome burst which, combined with the Soul Harvest passive leads to a deadly combo. Seriously, MagNB dots plus Soul Harvest's forgiving definition of "kill" an enemy player means you can reach that 250 ultimate really quickly.

However, for those MagNBs hurting for DPS: you can use meteor, magelight combined with the mages skill passives, Scorching Flare, Piercing Mark, and Agony, and Impale to finish them off. Magicka NB is the anti-gank. How's that for DPS?

Can you please put a developers comment on why rearming trap was nerfed from 12% crit dmg to 10%, and the dmg by 30%?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E balance patch!

Have to test some stuff yet but it reads very good. Even with the set / skill nerfs that affect my builds, I feel Update 13 will be overall a much more balanced than what we've got on live right now.

Joy_Division wrote: »

ZoS - I may be in the minority, but I'm gonna say it anyway: I like the nerf to Armor of Trainee.

The very fact that end-game players would be using a set purposefully put into the game to help new players is abusive. And spare me the "well, you have to get in with the trainee trait so it's balanced" lie. I got my sharpened sword, sturdy curaiss, and jewelry and so do you.

You know I actually agree with you. This set hasn't caught the fotm bug yet. People just run 3 jewelry 2 swords and get all the benefits of the set and it pairs well with a lot of other sets.

It's good they nerfed this now before it became a problem in a future streamers video build and everyone ran it.

@Joy_Division

Joy_Division wrote: »

ZoS - I may be in the minority, but I'm gonna say it anyway: I like the nerf to Armor of Trainee.

The very fact that end-game players would be using a set purposefully put into the game to help new players is abusive. And spare me the "well, you have to get in with the trainee trait so it's balanced" lie. I got my sharpened sword, sturdy curaiss, and jewelry and so do you.

I've seen people talking about how OP trainee is, but I've yet to see anyone citing OP builds or any other proof that it is OP.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay

[*]Draconic Power

• Dragon Leap:
  • The damage and knockback from this ability and its morphs can no longer be dodged.
  • Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs were not granting the caster crowd control, snare, and immobilization immunity while they were mid-flight.
• Ferocious Leap (Dragon Leap morph): Fixed an issue where this morph’s damage was being mitigated off the target’s Physical Resistance instead of their Spell Resistance.

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Developer Comments

As part of a consistency pass to define abilities as dodgable or undodgable, Dragon Leap has been made undodgable. Area of Effect attacks should not be dodgable since they blanket an entire area with harmful effects, and should still damage enemies trying to Roll Dodge through it. You can still use Roll Dodge’s movement speed increase to avoid the Area of Effect altogether as counterplay against this ability. We’ll continue to monitor and update other Area of Effect abilities to ensure they conform to this standard.

This ability is still useless. Cant be used while rooted and does almost no damage.

[*]Dawn’s Wrath

• Backlash:
  • Increased the amount of copied damage by this ability and its morphs to 20% from 18%.
  • The initial damage done by this ability and its morphs now contributes to the copied damage.
  • The copied damage is no longer reduced by Battle Spirit. Note that the final damage done at the end of the duration is still reduced by Battle Spirit.
  • Fixed an issue where damage that was absorbed by a damage shield was not being copied.

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Developer Comments

We want to see Backlash as a burst damage ability that you can use in solo PvE or PvP content. To accomplish this, we not only increased the amount of copied damage, but also doubled it in Cyrodiil. This increase in Cyrodiil was to account for both Battle Spirit and the playstyles of enemies; enemy players are much harder to hit with 5 seconds of unhindered attacks. This change should open up a lot of exciting possibilities for Templars in PvP and we’d love to hear your feedback on it.

https://youtu.be/Jouw65UsNmg

Looks like we got wrobeled. again.

Riggsy wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

I've seen people talking about how OP trainee is, but I've yet to see anyone citing OP builds or any other proof that it is OP.

Exactly, I'd love to see these OP builds they keep claiming exist.

they dont. You cant get any burst damage from it and fassalas with black rose is just better for tanking. Only solo mDK and magic templars can get anything from it. Even then its not over powering.

Veg wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Combat & Gameplay

[*]Draconic Power

• Dragon Leap:
  • The damage and knockback from this ability and its morphs can no longer be dodged.
  • Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs were not granting the caster crowd control, snare, and immobilization immunity while they were mid-flight.
• Ferocious Leap (Dragon Leap morph): Fixed an issue where this morph’s damage was being mitigated off the target’s Physical Resistance instead of their Spell Resistance.

[/list]
Developer Comments

As part of a consistency pass to define abilities as dodgable or undodgable, Dragon Leap has been made undodgable. Area of Effect attacks should not be dodgable since they blanket an entire area with harmful effects, and should still damage enemies trying to Roll Dodge through it. You can still use Roll Dodge’s movement speed increase to avoid the Area of Effect altogether as counterplay against this ability. We’ll continue to monitor and update other Area of Effect abilities to ensure they conform to this standard.

This ability is still useless. Cant be used while rooted and does almost no damage.

[*]Dawn’s Wrath

• Backlash:
  • Increased the amount of copied damage by this ability and its morphs to 20% from 18%.
  • The initial damage done by this ability and its morphs now contributes to the copied damage.
  • The copied damage is no longer reduced by Battle Spirit. Note that the final damage done at the end of the duration is still reduced by Battle Spirit.
  • Fixed an issue where damage that was absorbed by a damage shield was not being copied.

[/list]
Developer Comments

We want to see Backlash as a burst damage ability that you can use in solo PvE or PvP content. To accomplish this, we not only increased the amount of copied damage, but also doubled it in Cyrodiil. This increase in Cyrodiil was to account for both Battle Spirit and the playstyles of enemies; enemy players are much harder to hit with 5 seconds of unhindered attacks. This change should open up a lot of exciting possibilities for Templars in PvP and we’d love to hear your feedback on it.

https://youtu.be/Jouw65UsNmg

Looks like we got wrobeled. again.

And this is no crit It can hit for this without crits.
Light armor will be so dead, well, everyone will be dead.

As if Templar needed buffs....

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

WTF IS THIS BULL &@%* ARE YOU ON CRACK!

Alchemy
Reduced the duration of Major Vitality from potions. The base duration is now 12.5 seconds, down from 47.5 seconds.

WTF is that!

I actually like that change. These were pretty OP. This brings them inline with other powerful potion buffs like Immovable, etc. Still great situationaly, but not something you can have 24/7.

This is crap, I"m gonna offload my potions so bloody fast it's not funny before they aint worth jack