I never compare RL to a game, but in this instance I will. No new player should be on the same lvl as a veteran, just like a new employee should and will NEVER start at the same wage as a manager. It's common sense.

It would make more sense to balance by eliminating CP completely from PvP.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

worsttankever wrote: »

Perspective from a low CP player - After leveling out of Blackwater Blade (with 2 characters), I stopped PVPing with my vets. Focused on crafting, skillpoint quests, and Undaunted since then. Now that I'm at 300CP, I'm more likely to go back in to BWB with a new character (I have 6 low level alts waiting), than to enter a CP campaign finally with my vets.

I haven't even tried Vet CP PVP yet. Everyone seems to say the advantage of max CP versus low/mid is overwhelming.

This is the core issue. It's so difficult to get new players interested in PVP when it's basically required for you to not only grind out 560+ CP, but to also spend weeks grinding gear in dungeons (and god knows how long doing Undaunted dailies for shoulders), and then to grind gold to upgrade your new gear to gold, etc. ZOS knows this is an issue, as they've implemented things in the past to help new players get into ESO quicker (CP cap, battleleveling), but more needs to be done. Call it "entitlement" or "giving a handout" all you want, at the end of the day, if there's no new players coming in, then the game dies.

As for playing on Azura's Star, it's definitely a fun server (I've enjoyed fighting the Fengrush horde this past week), but keep in mind that a lot of the core game mechanics were changed to accommodate CP (dodge roll fatigue, streak fatigue, increase to skill costs, new items like poisons and Fasalla's Guille, etc.) and, while they make sense when CP is in the picture, without CP they're very unbalanced.

The majority of the current state of PvP is dictated by CP. Before we had CP we had soft caps. These soft caps dictated where we needed to put our resources in order to be the most effective. There weren't dps proc sets. There were class imbalances sure, but not much different than now.

Now we have CP (which has re-introduced things that have been available within the "spell power" and "weapon power" calculations for the last two years) and sets that bolster things that should have been available from launch.

CP shouldn't be a surprising development. Level caps always get raised in MMO's. ESO just moved from linear leveling to something more pyramid shaped. Either way it shouldn't be news to anyone.

If you want PvP in a more skill-based campaign play on the campaign that doesn't allow CP. Because at least in that campaign you know you will be killed by the player or by their armor set. That's better than factoring in CP in my opinion,

There are basically two camps here. One wants pvp to be more skill and less progression based, and well the other wants the opposite.

Nieither are wrong some games go one way some go another. The most successful long running game that has maintained high pvp populations is probably GW2. I haven't played that game in a couple of years, but when I left it was still heavily skill based. by skill based I generally mean even if gear or other acquired things make a difference, they are relatively easy to get for the majority of the player base.

ESO probably puts more emphasis on progression in pvp then any western pvp mmo I've ever played. Asian mmo's are so different it's hard to make any comparison without taking into account all the ways the asian market is different.

For those that want more skill based, me being one of them, this is never going to be that game, I see no chance that they just reverse directions. The best you can hope for is better skill balance, and no more features like emp, which I'm betting is generally thought of internally as a mistake.

tplink3r1 wrote: »

The game basely has any progression and people want to reduce it... depressing.

Why's that depressing? What is wrong with being at an even footing with new players apart from your experience and knowledge of the game? Progression belongs in PvE where you always bash up things less powerful then you and they need motivation cause nothing changes, PvP is dynamic and should be skill vs skill, not having players rewarded with higher base stats (CP) just because they've played for longer.

s_jscorpiorwb17_ESO wrote: »

Lol this is the age of entitlement where people want everything without working for it. People like this poster is what ruins mmo an turns them into everyone gets a medal type of game.

Lol this is the age of entitlement where people want an unfair advantage over other people without working for it through skills and knowledge acquisition. People like this poster is what ruins any semblance of balance and competitive PvP and turns it into a grind PvE for the most PvP power type of game.