lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

For testing new sets it's usually enough to just compare epic versions of the different sets. Additionally you could always just go to the pts where you have access to unlimited upgrading mats.

Furthermore I don't think increasing the drop rates of only golden tempers would have much of a positive impact on the economy. Sure, temper prices would drop, but then people would have more money to spend on other stuff, resulting in higher prizes for everything else, especially potions.

Economy-wise, yellow mats have gotten way too expensive. After the DB update, rosin was only 2.5k each, so for 20k you can upgrade your gear. However, the price is somewhere like 6k, over double the price, due to greed and price inflation by huge trading guilds.

Dudis wrote: »

No. I think since you can get the best item sets in the game so easily, it has to take some other kind of effort to actually be the best you can be.

Edit: I generally only run purple armor with gold weapons btw.

Vicious ophidian rings are easy to get? Viper weapons are easy to get? sun rings are easy to get? Veledrith shoulders are easy to get? vMA weapons are easy to get??

These are the BiS items and they are freaking hard to get, how is getting items easy in this game unless you bribe rngesus somehow?!!

I upgrade weapons but that's about it.
Seems little point to yellow gear otherwise, I change it too often and get little from it.

OH I do run yellow glyphs though of course, when I can.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

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wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

For testing new sets it's usually enough to just compare epic versions of the different sets. Additionally you could always just go to the pts where you have access to unlimited upgrading mats.

Furthermore I don't think increasing the drop rates of only golden tempers would have much of a positive impact on the economy. Sure, temper prices would drop, but then people would have more money to spend on other stuff, resulting in higher prizes for everything else, especially potions.

Economy-wise, yellow mats have gotten way too expensive. After the DB update, rosin was only 2.5k each, so for 20k you can upgrade your gear. However, the price is somewhere like 6k, over double the price, due to greed and price inflation by huge trading guilds.

I belong to one big trading guild and one smaller one. I sell rosin for around 4K on both.

Maybe you should shop around more...

Xbox na

Rosin 9k-13k
Wax 10-14
Alloy 18-26k
Roe-15-20k its almost the cheap, wtf is that ***.

Runs wrote: »

The drop rates are fine... They drop really well to be honest. It's the demand that's too high, everybody wants to yellow out every piece of gear they try on.

Yellow is supposed to be Legendary, not everyday everyone wears everything even stuff they are just testing to see if they like. So as it stands there is sort of a commitment to an item if you make it legendary, or a huge waste of gold if you decide to just drop it.

So IMO the price is too high, but it should be.

^^^this^^^

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

Golded out gear should be for the hardcore. there should be some thought going in before making everything legendary.

So you're saying the unemployed should be the only people with gold weapons? I have 2 gold weapons across all my characters and none of my tanks armour have ever been Legendary. It took me months to save them up and when One Tamriel comes along I'll be back to Purple again. I might get 1 Tempering Alloy back from deconstructing those 2 weapons, it's a joke and so is not being competitive in both PvE and PvP.

So much in this thread but I'm going to reply to this one specifically.

I work 40 to 50 hours a week, and even though I can only muster up enough time to play 10 to 20 hours a week, I'm plenty "hardcore". I have 531+ CP, and a full gold set. Actually I have a few all gold sets. When I find something I want I take the time away from PVP to farm.

Here is why all of that matters. I knew a year and a half ago that I wanted to be really good at ESO on console. I also knew that I would never be able to compete with the PC transfers and people who could play 40+ hours like their job. So I formulated a plan that I stuck to. No different than the plan I formed many years ago to get a better career.

For everyone complaining on here that only the hardcore should have access to stuff like this, they are actually right. ESO will always reward players who either play the most, or stick to a long term plan. If you cannot do either you should not be rewarded with easy access to gold tempers. If you only want to do 1 aspect of the game, eventually you will get surpassed by someone who has spent good amounts of time doing the less desirable jobs. Cyrodiil is already changing on console. Many players who were unbelievable last year are only "good" now and many others who were cannon fodder before now make up for their lower "skill" because of their treasure chest of resources they now possess.

I do wish ESO would install an NPC vendor for gold tempers around 10k each to lower the cost below the 20 to 25k console price but that's not happening any time soon. That, however, is why I picked other.

Also, stop chasing metas and listening to people who say you can't be effective without a specific set. And lastly, stick to one main toon. When you're ready to change your gear hand down your old stuff to your second toon and then your third. This is way more effective than complaining about gold tempers because your 6th best character isn't in all Legendary gear.

it is painfully easy to farm raw materials to get your own tempers, those who do not want to bother farming should have to pay the price. making your gear the best should not be something you can do without working for it.

Work for the money to buy them or work farming the raw mats to refine them end of story. You do not want to put the effort in no gold gear. Why should I have to work hard to get my tempers farming them and someone else be able to buy them for next to nothing.

It is bad enough all the dungeon drops and trial drops are going BoP. We will have little enough to sell fast as overland drops will start high but end up so common they will be next to worthless do not cut out one of the few remaining ways to buy and sell for decent money from the economy by making gold upgrade mats more common.

AmberLaTerra wrote: »

it is painfully easy to farm raw materials to get your own tempers, those who do not want to bother farming should have to pay the price. making your gear the best should not be something you can do without working for it.

Work for the money to buy them or work farming the raw mats to refine them end of story. You do not want to put the effort in no gold gear. Why should I have to work hard to get my tempers farming them and someone else be able to buy them for next to nothing.

It is bad enough all the dungeon drops and trial drops are going BoP. We will have little enough to sell fast as overland drops will start high but end up so common they will be next to worthless do not cut out one of the few remaining ways to buy and sell for decent money from the economy by making gold upgrade mats more common.

Painfully easy u say, I agree its easy. Though its more painful boring than easy. I use to love farming but the amount of mats u need for one piece of gear is ridiculous. And it doesn't stop there reagents for potions are almost just as expensive.

U can walk into a delve and get a crap ton of food, but when picking a flower I get one. Why not increase it to at least 3 to 4 and proc of 6 and 8 just like crafting node.

vma can be done in white gear, making legendary only worth it for min/maxers. 800k for legendary/mats/glyphs etc for your primary min/maxer set is nothing.

alexkdd99 wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

We have a huge problem on PC EU.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's taken me over a year of playing to finally amass enough Rosins, (as well as have a level capped character I like) to make my first Legendary Staff for my Templar. I did kind of appreciate the 200 point bump in Spell Damage, but in all honestly making everything Legendary seems really pointless. Only having Gold weapons seems beneficial since the stats increase for Armor from Epic to Legendary is barely an increase at all. And I care way too much about the wealth I have to waste it on something that won't give me an appropriate return.

it took you a year...... 12 months....52 weeks..... 365 (and a quarter)days to get 8 rosins????????


really?

Some people like myself have a family to look after and work 60 hrs a week. I bet most students, the unemployed and even those that have no family of their own yet have plenty of gold and a stock pile of mats.

When you get 1-2 hours of spare time a day to play a video game, doing more work (writs) doesn't appeal to most. I levelled blacksmithing to 50 2.5 years ago, a while back you used to get the occasional Tempering Alloy but for the last year, I haven't received a single one from a hireling. That's why the prices nowadays are 4x what they used to be and it's a major problem.

Just because someone can not put in the same time does not mean you should devalue the time others have spent.
If you don't want to do the writs then don't complain about not having upgrade mats.
I don't understand why people feel entitled to the same items as someone who farmed for their items even though they spent less time attempting to gain said items.

If you don't have the same time as someone else to spend playing a game then you just need to realize that and not expect to be on the same level as someone who does put the time in. That or play something other than an mmo as that is a big part of MMOs

I totally agree with your sentiment, but as I said earlier in the thread; it's currently easier to farm 8k gold to buy a dreugh wax than it is to farm 1 dreugh wax. I'm not an economist but that doesn't sound right or healthy. Please correct me if I'm wrong.