It is currently bananas to upgrade to gold and I'm not going to do it again for a while (I have a couple toons outfitted). Writs have become a poor means of getting golds b/c of poor return overall from completion especailly if you factor in some poor RNG. And we all know that the costs at vendors are ridiculous. Hell even if you have all the time to gather all the nodes to upgrade a single piece of gear you are potentially looking at 1000s of raw mats to refine - again for just one piece. For me and many others time is expensive and precious. I gather mats sure but not to the exclusion of all else.

gamerguy757 wrote: »

here's what you need to do.
1. Realize Gold Gear isn't worth it
2. Farm VMA
3. Decon all drops.
4. Purple Mats galore

Gold weapons are a must, whether you like it or not.

Gold armor that is not TBS is fine on purple.

No. There are two options - spend the time, or spend the gold. If you don't choose to do the former, you don't get to contain about having to do the latter.

I didn't spend the time to level 6 crafters, and do 24 writs every day because it's fun. But because it provides me with the gold and supplies needed to have competitive end game gear. I've spent many hours farming mats and surveys to stockpile what I need for my characters. I have enough banked to make entire Legendary quality sets for my 4 light/medium and 2 heavy armored toons (even though I only play 3 of them regularly). Everything above that threshold gets sold, at a premium.

If I ever decide to stop farming writs and mats, and spend all of my game time on the enjoyable content, then I will contentedly pay the high market rate for upgrade mats, because I will recognize that it's the result of my choices.

@Bobby_V_Rockit My guess is to get the additional 5% mundus stone bonus from divines, since TBS is doubble dipping into that modifier.

Looks like best thing to do is just play Magika classes and just upgrade staffs for rosins.

It takes ~320k gold to make a 5-piece of heavy armor legendary, ~384k gold if you include a weapon.

That seems a little outrageous to me. If it's a crafted set, that's close to 1/2 million gold for 5-6 out of the 10 pieces of gear you can wear. For one build.

Things were better off when the chance of getting gold tempers from hireling mails was higher. You should be able to buy tempers for AP and Tel Var stones.

Sallington wrote: »

It takes ~320k gold to make a 5-piece of heavy armor legendary, ~384k gold if you include a weapon.

That seems a little outrageous to me. If it's a crafted set, that's close to 1/2 million gold for 5-6 out of the 10 pieces of gear you can wear. For one build.

Things were better off when the chance of getting gold tempers from hireling mails was higher. You should be able to buy tempers for AP and Tel Var stones.

Wow what realm are you in, in PC EU you need minimum 100k per piece, so for 5 piece heavy 500k with weapons 700-900k this excluding 2 more pieces, which could be light or medium.

The rate is fine, you just need to play the full game and Gold mats are easy enough to get. Daily writs top tier give so many surveys now, which lewd to Golds.

If you are impatient or don't want to Craft, aye its expensive. But as it should be. Plus it makes you think about your set choice.

I would like however Gold to make a bigger difference. Weapons do, but armour its really negligable. Alot of 531's I know don't bother.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Looks like best thing to do is just play Magika classes and just upgrade staffs for rosins.

Even mages dual wield for best dps, because #zoslogic, so you'll still need 16 alloys to be competitive on a magick build.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

farming mats is not hard. you have hirelings and do writs all are easy enough to get.

I don't think anybody thinks it's hard, it's just not what a lot of people want to do with their time. Which I understand. But wanting the best stuff to be both cheap and easy is unreasonable.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

It takes ~320k gold to make a 5-piece of heavy armor legendary, ~384k gold if you include a weapon.

That seems a little outrageous to me. If it's a crafted set, that's close to 1/2 million gold for 5-6 out of the 10 pieces of gear you can wear. For one build.

Things were better off when the chance of getting gold tempers from hireling mails was higher. You should be able to buy tempers for AP and Tel Var stones.

Wow what realm are you in, in PC EU you need minimum 100k per piece, so for 5 piece heavy 500k with weapons 700-900k this excluding 2 more pieces, which could be light or medium.

PC NA, the average price per alloy WAS 8k, but it's closer to 9-10k right now while people are hoarding prior to Update 12.

Either way, the alloys are far too rare nowadays.

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

Golded out gear should be for the hardcore. there should be some thought going in before making everything legendary.

So you're saying the unemployed should be the only people with gold weapons? I have 2 gold weapons across all my characters and none of my tanks armour have ever been Legendary. It took me months to save them up and when One Tamriel comes along I'll be back to Purple again. I might get 1 Tempering Alloy back from deconstructing those 2 weapons, it's a joke and so is not being competitive in both PvE and PvP.

I got 4 tonight in about an hour just runninf around getting nodes... the mine sites in Wrothgar are great

Part of the challenge is to get these mats yourself, either by paying for them or going out and harvesting mats and doing the daily writs. I quite enjoy that element of the game and hardly ever buy any gold mats as a result.