do you think upgrading gear to yellow is too expensive?

Takes-No-Prisoner

No (State Reasons)

dsalter wrote: »

i rarely upgrade to gold, new gear comes out far to often and the difference is minimal

Pretty much what I do too, though personally I just wait for the gold mats to come out of refining/ hirelings then gold whatever gear I deeply care most about. It takes awhile, but like you said the difference is so minimal that waiting is not really an issue for me either.

MaxwellC

Yes (State your reasons)

Yeah they're definitely way too expensive as it is now I mean people try to sell them for 18k each like lmao? The gold upgrade materials are meant to be rare but not so rare that it's completely out of reach from the majority. I for one have 4.5 mil in gold total on both chars and I still don't even upgrade my tank armor set because of how stupidly expensive it is.

gamerguy757

If gold gear is absolutely necessary, then why do I have Flawless Conqeror on my toons and a high ranking in Cyrodiil in all purple gear?

jedtb16_ESO

No (State Reasons)

Reverb wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Looks like best thing to do is just play Magika classes and just upgrade staffs for rosins.

Even mages dual wield for best dps, because #zoslogic, so you'll still need 16 alloys to be competitive on a magick build.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

farming mats is not hard. you have hirelings and do writs all are easy enough to get.

I don't think anybody thinks it's hard, it's just not what a lot of people want to do with their time. Which I understand. But wanting the best stuff to be both cheap and easy is unreasonable.

but that's the thing isn't it?

if you just play one part of the game you miss out on the other stuff. if you play the whole game then crafting mats gear and gold cease to be an issue.

CirithValaria

No (State Reasons)

I really don't mind the cost (I'm saying this as a owner of 10 characters in full legendary gear), but I do mind [A LOT] that the deconstructing those items give u pretty much nothing back.

I would really like to see them change material return values or add some sort of deconstruction kit that would increase the chances.
It just doesn't make any sense that we only get 1 improving material back at best (only from the highest upgrade material used).

EDIT: The Deconstruction Kit could be a crafting writ reward same as repair kit and it would make good for the market too.

treborrealb14_ESO

No (State Reasons)

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

16500g for 1 Tempering Alloy. Put them in the Crown Store already. Don't care if it's P2W, you could say the same about the tri-pots.

There 7k to 8k on US server and Im sure the RNG rate same whatever hell server your on

treborrealb14_ESO

No (State Reasons)

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

Golded out gear should be for the hardcore. there should be some thought going in before making everything legendary.

So you're saying the unemployed should be the only people with gold weapons? I have 2 gold weapons across all my characters and none of my tanks armour have ever been Legendary. It took me months to save them up and when One Tamriel comes along I'll be back to Purple again. I might get 1 Tempering Alloy back from deconstructing those 2 weapons, it's a joke and so is not being competitive in both PvE and PvP.

I got 4 tonight in about an hour just runninf around getting nodes... the mine sites in Wrothgar are great

Lulz but you selected "Yes" as your response I take it your rescinding your vote?

jedtb16_ESO

No (State Reasons)

CirithValaria wrote: »

I really don't mind the cost (I'm saying this as a owner of 10 characters in full legendary gear), but I do mind [A LOT] that the deconstructing those items give u pretty much nothing back.

I would really like to see them change material return values or add some sort of deconstruction kit that would increase the chances and giving us back more than just 1 improving material.
It just doesn't make any sense that we only get 1 improving material back (highest upgrade used)..maybe...

i support this idea.

RebornV3x

Yes (State your reasons)

Yes especially on Xbox One NA temps are going for 20-30k it will only get worse when new gear comes out with update 12 reduce tempers need to upgrade by 2 so if you have the right passives it would take 6 instead of 8 to upgrade to yellow also temps should have a chance to drop from trials and vet dungeons we need an influx of yellow mats and quick.

Junipus

No (State Reasons)

The difference in weapon damage from purple CP160 Hundings to Gold CP160 Hundings is 14. You can quite easily pull good dps, or do good healing or tanking in all purple gear without having to invest in going full Midas.

You should only really go for all gold if you want to squeeze every last drop of damage/healing/mitigation out of your build and your abilities are limited by the gear being purple, otherwise it's a waste of gold and tempers and an artificial crutch for players to rest on.

the_man_of_steal

Yes (State your reasons)

I voted "yes" but with an exception... If ZOS keeps max gear at 160 for another year, I don't think it is unreasonably expensive. If however, they are upgrading to 180 and then in another 6-8 months they want to raise it to 200...etc then it is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE

Sallington

Yes (State your reasons)

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

16500g for 1 Tempering Alloy. Put them in the Crown Store already. Don't care if it's P2W, you could say the same about the tri-pots.

Please think about ways to improve the actual game, instead of defaulting to "let me pay real money for it".

Asmael

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Why does TBS need to be gold but not others?

It relies on the mundus trait so you lose 7% crit chance and 7% crit damage which is way to much for the build to show its true potential.

You certainly don't get 7% crit chance / crit damage (CC / CD) by upgrading TBS from purple to yellow, you improve the mundus effects by 7%.

Thief gives 11% CC, Shadow gives 12% CD.

A full purple set of divines with TBS means you're getting 6.5 * 7 = 45.5% increase in mundus potency, which means you'll get
11 * 1.455 = 16% CC and 12 * 1.455 = 17.46% CD.

With gold, you get 16.775% CC and 18.3% CD, so less than 1% increase to CC and CD compared to purple.

Kreshja

Yes (State your reasons)

The thing is CP160 gold weapons dmg is much higher than purple, so people want to upgrade them to yellow for sure. And if you are in a PVE serious about running trials, yeah you need to upgrade. When I refine mats I notice that alloy tends to drop less than rosin or dreugh wax. Not sure if it's a common phenomenon. I only wish they can introduce some system like 10 green mats can refine to 1 blue and 20 blue refine to 1 purple and 30 purple refine to 1 gold, or 100 green refine to 1 gold something like that. Same thing for enchantment mats. 100 Ta refine to 1 kuta or a even a lower/higher ratio. So make trash mats actually useful.

DHale

Yes (State your reasons)

They have nerfed drop rates and avenues multiple times. I think respawn on nodes need to be much faster in Tamriel one to account for three times the pop per area in theory. They need to be unnerfed from the hireling as they were earlier in the game.

Beruge

Yes (State your reasons)

Yup.

Its preventing people from trying combinations they otherwise would.

Basically making every player out there go safe with typical gear - wich in return makes cyrodil a combination of what? 10 different builds on 90% of the players.

clayandaudrey_ESO

No (State Reasons)

Where is the "I want everything for free" option on your poll? Things are fine as they are.

UppGRAYxDD

Yes (State your reasons)

If you main a hvy armor build....yea astronomically expensive...drop rate on temps and current prices would cost you roughly 1.4 million gold on Xbox NA....1.4million

WillhelmBlack

Yes (State your reasons)

Sallington wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

16500g for 1 Tempering Alloy. Put them in the Crown Store already. Don't care if it's P2W, you could say the same about the tri-pots.

Please think about ways to improve the actual game, instead of defaulting to "let me pay real money for it".

I totally understand that, @Sallington but we've been trying to raise awareness to the devs via the forums for 6 months already. They are 100% not going to do anything about the prices, they're probably already waiting to see how high in price they can go so they know how much to charge for the Crown Store versions.

Fallen_Ray

Yes (State your reasons)

It is expensive both gold and timewise.

Dubhliam

No (State Reasons)

It's not ZOS that determines the prices of tempers.

Item prices are determined by player supply and demand.
What was once 5k may now be 11k and may also fall to 2k in the future, depending on the ratio of supply and demand.

FloppyTouch

No (State Reasons)

It's free...

Soella

No (State Reasons)

There are a lot of ways to earn money in the game, you can do it with high skill, or with some wits, or by spending time on mindless farming - choose your way.

Wolfhammer

Other

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Lol those who voted other mind explaining what other option they have in mind?

I chose other because I haven't upgraded anything to yellow yet therefore cannot choose either of the first two options..

Not a very good survey...

Lightninvash

No (State Reasons)

I have upgraded quite a few items to yellow but not all so far and I will say it hasn't cost me not even 1 septim in game. I farm all of my gold mats, by grinding or aimlessly wandering around to collect the wood, ores and silks I need to refine for the gold mats. So I say no it doesn't cost too much but it does take some time to get them gold my way but that's half the journey exploring the environment and harvesting what you need to make better gear.

Lightninvash

No (State Reasons)

Knootewoot wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Yes. I can barely keep up. People with ESO+ should get at least 1 golden temper per week for free for each crafting profession. Or they should be sold in crownstore for 500 crowns a piece.

500 crowns for one temper!!!!! ur mad ><

I have a good job. I will buy 100 in a blink of an eye. I will make everyone and their mother golden.

think this gu is a little unrealistic. buying 100 tempers at 500 a pop is going to cost round $510(estimated without crown sales) not to mention if this were the case and ever happened people would leave for being p2w. Furthermore, it would drastically increase the gold cost of tempers due to them being in crown store for such a high price. We would see the tempers go up in price and would make even less sense than it is now to buy them with gold.

WalksonGraves

My issue is that upgrading to gold increases some effects significantly and others barely at all, it has inconsistent boosts to set bonuses.

Nestor

No (State Reasons)

If your being killed in Purple Gear, upgrading it to Gold is not going to increase your survival rate.

gw2only1b14_ESO

No (State Reasons)

Nestor wrote: »

If your being killed in Purple Gear, upgrading it to Gold is not going to increase your survival rate.

lol agree... Im waiting for the making potions is to expensive and hell no i wont buy them either..Waite there in crown store but not as good QQ QQ

idk

No (State Reasons)

the_man_of_steal wrote: »

I voted "yes" but with an exception... If ZOS keeps max gear at 160 for another year, I don't think it is unreasonably expensive. If however, they are upgrading to 180 and then in another 6-8 months they want to raise it to 200...etc then it is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE

I would not expect our current max level to hold for another year. It's already been a year as it is.

Regardless, gold upgrade matts are obtainable without purchasing them merely by doing writs. It's a very good return, but it's also a choice.

The drop rate doesn't need to be increased. Works fine and I'm one with numerous sets uograded to gold.