So I've been thinking about it and these seem mostly not OP to me, which should always be the first priority even if the alternative is that they need a buff, but that Two Hander Ultimate.... Seriously? You give glass cannons the ability to steal all my resistance that I had to work so hard and build for (sacrificing a great deal of damage in the process)? Seriously, wtf is that? I have no problem with any other aspect of anything else I read being OP, but that right there is some crazy stupid *** if ever I've seen it, and as a person with all Hybrid Tank/DPS characters I particularly take offense to it. Way to just invalidate my entire build in PvP with this one Ultimate, now I have absolutely no reason not to switch to full Medium Armor and give up on Heavy altogether.

It's one thing to ignore my resistance with the Ultimate, that's fair, it doesn't do enough straight-up damage to be a problem and Corrosive Armor already does that better anyway by applying it to all your skills for the duration. But for me to go so far out of my way to buff my Resistance as close to the cap as possible and still do half-decent damage just to have a glass cannon not only ignore all that resistance with their Ultimate but also steal that hard-earned and dearly paid for resistance away with an equivalent buff to themselves... Even lasting for 8 seconds, that is profoundly broken and a slap in the face to anyone who tries to be separate from the glass cannon burst meta. Glass Cannons had way, way too much going for them already and Tankier builds not nearly enough, now this? Seriously ZOS, wtf.

I love pretty much everything (if not everything) else that I read in the patch notes and all told this looks like an amazing update that will improve the game dramatically and set the stage for even more awesome updates to come, I don't know what to think about that Destro Ultimate and don't think the Resto staff is that good (I was hoping for something that could make non-templar Healers gave a similar quality big heals for the group, but the one person per second is useless for that) but at least there's nothing OP about them so it's a matter of buffing at the worst to get them sorted. That slap in the face to every Tanky character though... We sacrifice so much to get that resistance, giving Glass Cannons the ability to steal it for a full 8 seconds just by using a cheap Ultimate which would already be one of the best in the game without that ability is seriously and profoundly messed up.

People are going to be able to get some serious uptime on that buff with the cheap cost and long duration, and what's worse is that I can't even make good use of it myself because of how close to the cap I am already, even with my enemies using penetration anything more I get still probably goes over the cap far more than I'm able to make use of (and not that it would make this Ultimate okay but it's definitely overdue that if everything else isn't going to have caps that neither should resistance). Just get rid of the effect that allows it to steal a Tank's hard-earned resistance and this along with all the other Ultimates will be fine (or in need of a buff, too soon for me to say though especially since I'm not on PTS), but as it stands that Two Hander Ultimate is flat-out and utterly broken. Ignoring resistance and the other features are more than enough, for christ sake ZOS please be reasonable.

Aquanova wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Deatro Ultinate cisting 250?? Must be kidding, its not good as DW and so high cost?

Its higest cost in all weapon ultimates..

These ultimates are totally gonna ruin pvp, magicka becomes so weaker again..

I have to agree with this^.

Especially considering that the 2h ultimate which most stam builds run only costs 150 and is a combination wrecking blow/ corrosive armor. I'm surprised they didn't throw in a heal with that as well.

An aoe ulti like the destro staff with this high a cost is good for groups but not for solo.

Yup, I'm not contempt with the magic ultimate's at all.
The resto staff is just a practically vigor; If you needed an extra defensive buff as a templar chances are you'd have those up already & they don't stack. Not to mention Vigor stacks better for heal's with Momentum to give major brutality...
The Bow Ultimate (stams staff superior), Out DPS The destro ult in half the time with less warning & commitment... 400 over 10s for 4000 or 5530 in 4s. Compleatible from stealth.
For 75 Less Ultimate!!
& As Lord Dexter said; The Duel Wield ultimate doesn't even allow Magic to compete with it. At 100pts less then destro, one button roll dodge into a zerg & now you have the Restro & Destro ultimate combined on top of Vigor, momentum & other stam buffs. So cheap you'll regain it before the effect even ends. How hard is it to get four kills with an effect that overpowered. On top of that the AoE cap is 6!! That is desto ult In a worthy enough Templar filled zerg is going to kill no-one.
I thought I was being wild with my Duel Wand Ult suggestion, but I'm apparently going to have to De-nerf it for Magic to catch up.

You all realise complaining here does nothing? If you actually want to try and make a difference then go tell ZOS in the official feedback thread - https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/288639/official-discussion-thread-for-weapon-ultimates/p1

Destruent wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Love love love the visuals for destro staff tho! Ice/Fire/Lightning storm! And area effect is LAAAAARGE! A few sorcs using this can wipe entire zergs.

You know what's funny? This was the concept I had in mind for Destruction Staff lol

You know what's even more funny? Use meteor/Negate to have more Utility and DPS for lower Costs

This is honestly the truth of this. I honestly think players should make a big deal of this because it is a big deal. The destro and resto ults are junk even when not compared to anything, but when compared with what magicka users already have there's no reason to use them. Then, if you compare them to what the other weapon ults are, it gets even worse! Magicka is in need of a buff, and I was hoping these ults might be a step in the right direction.

Magicka will RISE spellcrafting is around the corner.....

How are the numbers scaled? Are they accurate? If so they are really low... 2500 damage over 6 seconds,.. really? I could heavy attack and make more damage than that while regaining resources....hmmm

The Light's Champion i kinda like though.

The irony in calling the shield ult Spell Wall. Should have had some fun. Call it Prestigious Aegis or to really rile the robes, Frock Block.

And a little disappointed that the destro ult isn't called Wizard Blizzard.

ParaNostram wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Magicka will RISE spellcrafting is around the corner.....

I thought they scrapped spellcrafting?

Not scrapped, on hold.

Leandor wrote: »

So basically everyone in Tamriel is supposed to run around with a 2H.

This looks more like a phase-out of all other weapons.

SMH.

In Cyrodiil. It's clearly op in pvp.
If they remove the defensive buff of the ultimate it's a good skill, but right now it's too much.