Storm Knight 5 piece bonus is bugged/scaled incorrectly at Champ 160

Rylana · August 2016

So lets let this cat out of the bag early shall we?

Champ 120 version: Approx 1100 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 1100x3 = 3300 total
Champ 140 version: Approx 1500 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 1500x3 = 4500 total
Champ 160 version: Approx 6500 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 6500x3 = 19500 total

Do you see where you messed up @Wrobel ?

Whoever coded in the c160 version put the final damage output in as the per tick value, basically increasing the sets intended damage by three times. It should be ticking for around 2000-2300 per tick to stay in line with its lower ranked brothers.

There is a reason it is starting to be seen more and more around Cyrodiil, its broken/bugged. Youre welcome.

Iyas · August 2016

Youll see a huge increase in sales

imredneckson · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

So lets let this cat out of the bag early shall we?

Champ 120 version: Approx 1100 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 1100x3 = 3300 total
Champ 140 version: Approx 1500 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 1500x3 = 4500 total
Champ 160 version: Approx 6500 damage every 2 seconds for six seconds = 6500x3 = 19500 total

Do you see where you messed up @Wrobel ?

Whoever coded in the c160 version put the final damage output in as the per tick value, basically increasing the sets intended damage by three times. It should be ticking for around 2000-2300 per tick to stay in line with its lower ranked brothers.

There is a reason it is starting to be seen more and more around Cyrodiil, its broken/bugged. Youre welcome.

Storm Knights bugged again? Wow I remember the last time this happened

Rylana · August 2016

Update - it appears to be ignoring battle spirit.

LegendaryChef · August 2016

So, @Zose, if we are caught using this set are we at risk of a perma ban?

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

You are thinking of the thunderous plate or whatever that was bugged before.

Almost none of what you guys are saying is wrong with it, is actually wrong with it.

The devs came out and said they were updating these sets, and the damage with them.

Remember on your recap its cumulative, not 1 tick lol.

Rylana · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

You are thinking of the thunderous plate or whatever that was bugged before.

Almost none of what you guys are saying is wrong with it, is actually wrong with it.

The devs came out and said they were updating these sets, and the damage with them.

Remember on your recap its cumulative, not 1 tick lol.

No Sub, the champ 120 version still shows the old values. If it did not I wouldnt have even said anything.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

No Sub, the champ 120 version still shows the old values. If it did not I wouldnt have even said anything.

Right, like I said they were updating the 160 set values.

I could be wrong, but they said multiple times the sets would be updated to compensate for the level increase.

The largest crit ticks i have seen have been around 6k

LegendaryChef · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

You are thinking of the thunderous plate or whatever that was bugged before.

Almost none of what you guys are saying is wrong with it, is actually wrong with it.

The devs came out and said they were updating these sets, and the damage with them.

Remember on your recap its cumulative, not 1 tick lol.

I think we have our first perma ban inc

Rylana · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

No Sub, the champ 120 version still shows the old values. If it did not I wouldnt have even said anything.

Right, like I said they were updating the 160 set values.

I could be wrong, but they said multiple times the sets would be updated to compensate for the level increase.

The largest crit ticks i have seen have been around 6k

We are currently testing it actively and are getting really close to the 10k area. 30k damage every six seconds man? AoE? Constant? You cant tell me that aint way out of scale for a proc chance of 10% with no internal CD.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

No matter what level you cursor over it shows it adjusted to your personal damage

mortuusbae · August 2016

Radiant destruction for example says 15k on the recap doesn't mean it hit you all at once. It hits you for 15k it's over 2.9 seconds. That just means you were literally standing in someones storm knight for a full 6 seconds. Also how did you check that it isn't reduced with battle spirit you would have to find mobs that have the same resistance as the play you're testing it on. Or are you just making random assumptions because you died to it?

Synozeer · August 2016

The problem is that the 10% proc rate is procing 100% of the time, and sometimes on things that don't seem like they should proc it. If it only proced 10% of the time and on correct damage types, then it makes sense that the set damage is high since it won't be near as active as it is now.

Rylana · August 2016

mortuusbae wrote: »

Radiant destruction for example says 15k on the recap doesn't mean it hit you all at once. It hits you for 15k it's over 2.9 seconds. That just means you were literally standing in someones storm knight for a full 6 seconds. Also how did you check that it isn't reduced with battle spirit you would have to find mobs that have the same resistance as the play you're testing it on. Or are you just making random assumptions because you died to it?

Testing it vs each other with known armor and penetration values.

You cant simply move out of it, all the player has to do is follow you around and stay close with say a gap closer or ya know, wsad?

We are showing values of 5-6k battle spirit ignoring DPS per person using the set, that will proc on virtually anything magicka scaled (even ultimates), passively. Without doing anything on the part of the player wearing it.

Comparing the two version we have on us right now, c120 and c160, the c160 version on the same player yields nearly five times the raw damage output as the c120.

It is clearly scaled wrong.

Additionally as Azoi pointed out above me, it is proccing way more than 10 percent of the time, it may very well be 100%, but we havent seen quite that level yet.

Synozeer · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

No matter what level you cursor over it shows it adjusted to your personal damage

Exactly. It scales from spell damage, so it's going to be different for everyone. Probably why they changed the spell damage armor traits to spell resist.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

it scales to your personal tool tip rylana, so all that testing is pretty LOL at the moment.

Also reported chef for threats and harassment.

Joy_Division · August 2016

Believe the OP is onto something. Saw two procs from this set in the combat log and the damage was high enough for me to think there might be a bug.

Rylana · August 2016

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

it scales to your personal tool tip rylana, so all that testing is pretty LOL at the moment.

Also reported chef for threats and harassment.

the c120 version comes out four to five times lower than on the exactly same setup player using the c160 version, do you understand now?

This also reflects its actual damage in testing. its not just a tooltip error.

Synozeer · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

it scales to your personal tool tip rylana, so all that testing is pretty LOL at the moment.

Also reported chef for threats and harassment.

the c120 version comes out four to five times lower than on the exactly same setup player using the c160 version, do you understand now?

This also reflects its actual damage in testing. its not just a tooltip error.

Not sure what you mean that it's 4-5 times lower. Here's screenshots of the 120 and 160 side by side:

The difference between the two are almost non-existent. Also, it is battle leveling, as I almost always do half the tooltip damage against players unless I crit, while ads I'm fighting in Cyrodiil take the full tooltip + more if crit.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

Ty azoi for doing what im too lazy to do lol

mortuusbae · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Chuga_Rei wrote: »

it scales to your personal tool tip rylana, so all that testing is pretty LOL at the moment.

Also reported chef for threats and harassment.

the c120 version comes out four to five times lower than on the exactly same setup player using the c160 version, do you understand now?

This also reflects its actual damage in testing. its not just a tooltip error.

So you don't have any pictures just making assumptions I don't think your "bug testing" is as reliable as you think it is.

Rylana · August 2016

The actual damage of the c120 version is coming out to ticks of 3200 vs a player
The actual damage of the c160 version is coming out to ticks of 7300 vs the same player

So we are at at least 3 times on that setup. (only coming in marginally below 4-5 times as previously stated) I will also retract battle spirit as we moved testing to a cp enabled campaign and found wildly changing results (in most cases for the worse except for that).

In any case, this set just vaporized three people in about 4 seconds while doing absolutely nothing else (one of my guildies in ts reporting that) on a full tank spec, not even built for damage. (ticks of about 6000)

Tell me again how this isnt broken.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

I would love a screen shot of this ticking on someone for 7300 repeatedly. I mean, azoi showed you the proof, can you replicate it?

Its pretty easy to see the difference in what it does, just go and try it on some guards, then try it on some players lol.

Taylor_MB · August 2016

95% sure it also procs on non-spell attacks.

Was soloing someone and it proc'd on me. Obviously small chance there was someone else around who dropped a spel on him and vanished, but seems unlikely.

mortuusbae · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

The actual damage of the c120 version is coming out to ticks of 3200 vs a player
The actual damage of the c160 version is coming out to ticks of 7300 vs the same player

So we are at at least 3 times on that setup. (only coming in marginally below 4-5 times as previously stated) I will also retract battle spirit as we moved testing to a cp enabled campaign and found wildly changing results (in most cases for the worse except for that).

In any case, this set just vaporized three people in about 4 seconds while doing absolutely nothing else (one of my guildies in ts reporting that) on a full tank spec, not even built for damage. (ticks of about 6000)

Tell me again how this isnt broken.

still waiting for screenshots

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

Taylor_MB wrote: »

95% sure it also procs on non-spell attacks.

Was soloing someone and it proc'd on me. Obviously small chance there was someone else around who dropped a spel on him and vanished, but seems unlikely.

the "broken" part i believe is its being triggered on stamina class abilities.

Iyas · August 2016

Maybe wpn dmg procs count as a spell or the viper proc (scaling right now with spell crit)

NBrookus · August 2016

It's not hard to guess which group on Azura's prompted this thread. This set, in PvP, is de facto BROKEN. It functionally procs 100% of the time in actual use in PvP. Volatile armor procs it. Lightning form procs it. And not just yours, but anyone's nearby. Blade cloak - because it is stamina - does not.

I did not see any 7k ticks, but when your death recap is full of 2k ticks from this set from a person you didn't attack, it makes you go "hmmm."

Pandorii · August 2016

I find this thread interesting. OP starts off by bringing to light a potentially bugged set and asks for the dev's position. OP provides evidence.

What I don't understand is why members of the community are attacking the OPs claim and asking for evidence. Clearly the OP and others are doing their best to provide this evidence for the greater good of the community, with their own personal time. At the end of the day, the call will be made by the devs. Evidence will help their investigation.

What I'm really curious about is what would motivate members of the community to challenge the authenticity of the OP's suspicion? I'm not going to lie. I think the only reason would be because the accusers 'wear' this broken set and want it to stay a secret and exploit it. But I don't want to be an accuser myself. So instead, I'll ask: why not try testing the set out yourselves instead of challenging the validity of the OP's attempts to provide evidence for the dev's investigation of a potentially broken set.

That is all.

Chuga_Rei · August 2016

The OP didnt provide any evidence was the problem lol. Azoi released a video wearing this set earlier this week. I dont think anyone is trying to hide anything lol

mortuusbae · August 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

It's not hard to guess which group on Azura's prompted this thread. This set, in PvP, is de facto BROKEN. It functionally procs 100% of the time in actual use in PvP. Volatile armor procs it. Lightning form procs it. And not just yours, but anyone's nearby. Blade cloak - because it is stamina - does not.

I did not see any 7k ticks, but when your death recap is full of 2k ticks from this set from a person you didn't attack, it makes you go "hmmm."

It's an aoe