If you have ever cheated or exploited, for any reason...

Fasoll · August 2016

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

Yes, yes you can. Beyond can, should.

Walls up you are in a keep killing people setting up siege? Perm Ban
Gate up and you are in a scroll area? Perm Ban.
You use a broken and completely OP set? Warning, 1 warning, then perm ban.
Cheat engine? Your cpu fan stops working.

The mindset that its in the game so I can use it is the "legit insane" mindset.

They are actually completely logical, because no one is getting banned for gapclosing.

That strawman won't work because people are getting banned for what it is they are doing after the gap close.

go ahead, gap close into a keep right now with 100 people recording you, and then leave the keep without interacting with other players, you won't be in any sort of trouble what-so-ever because you were not exploiting anything, you just clicked a button.

The mindset that "i'm here now because this was broken so everything I do after this is null and void although I KNOW for a fact its not allowed" is "legit insane"

Yeah using a set put in by zos is the same as cheating with a 3rd party program. Lmao. Get out of here dude

Cinnamon_Spider · August 2016

Fasoll wrote: »

you say all this like you know we cheat lmao. it's so funny because none of us even cheat , even if we wanted to , this patch you cannot cheat without being automatically banned. I am in the same boat as jules, I have never cheated in this game minus double mundus way back in 1.6 which was almost a requirement as many did it way back. I have always played legitimate and I know jules has as well. one of us usually stream everyday, you can tune in and watch us play clean and do the same things people claim we can only do with cheats.

Let's get one thing straight here. Double mundus was a cheat. Anyone that used cheats in the past can't claim they're completely clean now and expect people to believe them. That is the price you pay. You will always be scrutinized.

And claiming it was a requirement to play is the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Plenty of us did fine without this exploit.

Rylana · August 2016

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

The war is against the culture of cheating, not just whats been cheated with.

It has been reinforced too many times, people just do what they want without worry.

Logic dictates that you put the fear of God (or whatever diety or symbol said person will fear) into them.

JDar · August 2016

manny254 wrote: »

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

I would insightful, agree AND awesome this post if I could.

The real issue is about selfishness. Cheaters and exploiters think, well it's my gameplay experience, so why do other people care what I do to have fun. You can't take a solipsistic view on an MMO. This isn't a single-player game; everything about MMO's are competition to be the best player. People put a lot of time into this game, and exploiting is an aggressive act that shows contempt for other players.

I don't care how funny they are, I don't care how much AP they help you get, or whatever. People pay money for this game and it's like you're robbing then when you do this.

Some of the people who exploit to get to the top of AP leaderboards, I shudder to think what kind of low-life immoral parents raised them to be this way.

Edited for readability

Jules · August 2016

Kilandros wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

I have said plenty to him in person that is not evidenced on this thread or anywhere on these forums because I don't feel the need to publicize everything. You have no insight into the friendships in this group or how they function, or whether I do indeed "call him out on the truth" or not. To carelessly assume that I have or have not is based entirely on your imagination and not in reality. Go back and read what I wrote again.

I have neither condemned nor absolved him for specific reason. Because it is impossible to remain unbiased. Everything else you said operates off the assumption that I was defending him. I am merely explaining my position and my reasoning for my loyalty to my friends. I would think, as someone who played closely with lowpolicy for such a long time, you would understand the impossible conundrum much better.

For someone who doesn't "feel the need to publicize everything," you spend a lot of time publicly talking about this. I understand that you are targeted--perhaps too aggressively by certain people--but ultimately it was you who made the choice to play with people you knew were cheating. You should have seen this coming if and when their cheating became public. My advice is to take a break from this drama, let it die down, and move on.

Fair enough, but if I remain silent my name is still brought up and I'm crucified for not responding. #Fkit #whatshellokittyonlinelike

Rylana · August 2016

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Fasoll wrote: »

you say all this like you know we cheat lmao. it's so funny because none of us even cheat , even if we wanted to , this patch you cannot cheat without being automatically banned. I am in the same boat as jules, I have never cheated in this game minus double mundus way back in 1.6 which was almost a requirement as many did it way back. I have always played legitimate and I know jules has as well. one of us usually stream everyday, you can tune in and watch us play clean and do the same things people claim we can only do with cheats.

Let's get one thing straight here. Double mundus was a cheat. Anyone that used cheats in the past can't claim they're completely clean now and expect people to believe them. That is the price you pay. You will always be scrutinized.

And claiming it was a requirement to play is the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. Plenty of us did fine without this exploit.

This.

Among us are people who dont cheat. I know who they are. Whatever other differences exist, i know you dont cheat.

Rylana · August 2016

Fasoll wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

Yes, yes you can. Beyond can, should.

Walls up you are in a keep killing people setting up siege? Perm Ban
Gate up and you are in a scroll area? Perm Ban.
You use a broken and completely OP set? Warning, 1 warning, then perm ban.
Cheat engine? Your cpu fan stops working.

The mindset that its in the game so I can use it is the "legit insane" mindset.

They are actually completely logical, because no one is getting banned for gapclosing.

That strawman won't work because people are getting banned for what it is they are doing after the gap close.

go ahead, gap close into a keep right now with 100 people recording you, and then leave the keep without interacting with other players, you won't be in any sort of trouble what-so-ever because you were not exploiting anything, you just clicked a button.

The mindset that "i'm here now because this was broken so everything I do after this is null and void although I KNOW for a fact its not allowed" is "legit insane"

Yeah using a set put in by zos is the same as cheating with a 3rd party program. Lmao. Get out of here dude

Would you have used the set if it wasnt bugged and broken?

If the answer is yes - you are bad at theorycrafting.
If the answer is no - you are part of the cancer.

Rylana · August 2016

How the cancer spread...

What you say happens:
"Hey dude i found this awesome synergy secret build no ones using, and its awesome, it lets me showcase my actual ability to play the game well, and imma make some sick 1vX vids now, im sure i will get lots of mad respect and people will wanna know how I figured this all out"

What really happens:
"So jimmy told me the derpaderp set is bugged, it gives you five times something, which makes you god and cant be killed or does so much damage everything just dies instantly with no skill required or even knowing how the game works, lets go farm it and make supertoons and go humiliate folks until the devs fix it. yukyuk"

What comes as a result:
"Jimmy and Johnny are cheaters, look what I found, something else broken I will use in retaliation, two wrongs make a right, now I am just like them, but I am the noble one, because they did it first, I am completely without blame, the devs should have fixed it. Yuk yuk"

Rylana · August 2016

I dont like Jules or her attitude in game, but Darnathian youre crossing a lot of lines here man.

Fasoll · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Fasoll wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

Yes, yes you can. Beyond can, should.

Walls up you are in a keep killing people setting up siege? Perm Ban
Gate up and you are in a scroll area? Perm Ban.
You use a broken and completely OP set? Warning, 1 warning, then perm ban.
Cheat engine? Your cpu fan stops working.

The mindset that its in the game so I can use it is the "legit insane" mindset.

They are actually completely logical, because no one is getting banned for gapclosing.

That strawman won't work because people are getting banned for what it is they are doing after the gap close.

go ahead, gap close into a keep right now with 100 people recording you, and then leave the keep without interacting with other players, you won't be in any sort of trouble what-so-ever because you were not exploiting anything, you just clicked a button.

The mindset that "i'm here now because this was broken so everything I do after this is null and void although I KNOW for a fact its not allowed" is "legit insane"

Yeah using a set put in by zos is the same as cheating with a 3rd party program. Lmao. Get out of here dude

Would you have used the set if it wasnt bugged and broken?

If the answer is yes - you are bad at theorycrafting.
If the answer is no - you are part of the cancer.

You're just plain bad at the game.

Rylana · August 2016

Fasoll wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Fasoll wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

Yes, yes you can. Beyond can, should.

Walls up you are in a keep killing people setting up siege? Perm Ban
Gate up and you are in a scroll area? Perm Ban.
You use a broken and completely OP set? Warning, 1 warning, then perm ban.
Cheat engine? Your cpu fan stops working.

The mindset that its in the game so I can use it is the "legit insane" mindset.

They are actually completely logical, because no one is getting banned for gapclosing.

That strawman won't work because people are getting banned for what it is they are doing after the gap close.

go ahead, gap close into a keep right now with 100 people recording you, and then leave the keep without interacting with other players, you won't be in any sort of trouble what-so-ever because you were not exploiting anything, you just clicked a button.

The mindset that "i'm here now because this was broken so everything I do after this is null and void although I KNOW for a fact its not allowed" is "legit insane"

Yeah using a set put in by zos is the same as cheating with a 3rd party program. Lmao. Get out of here dude

Would you have used the set if it wasnt bugged and broken?

If the answer is yes - you are bad at theorycrafting.
If the answer is no - you are part of the cancer.

You're just plain bad at the game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

Here let me add my little frownface

yodased · August 2016

I think there is something that needs to be made unbelievably clear:

There is no levels of cheating that can be allowed.

If you are exploiting a broken set you are cheating as much as someone who is actively modifying game memory.

Your lesser evil is not dismissed because there is a greater evil, why is everything a comparison.

but but but but but johnny didn't get in trouble and his mommy said it was ok, so damnit I DESERVE THIS.

You deserve only the consequence to the action you chose to do, buddy boy, nothing else.

emma666 · August 2016

I think someone needs to inform Jauriel and Darnathian that this is the ESO forums, not Jerry Springer

Jules · August 2016

emma666 wrote: »

I think someone needs to inform Jauriel and Darnathian that this is the ESO forums, not Jerry Springer

10/10

Darnathian · August 2016

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

LMAO. CALLING HER OUT FOR LAUGHING AT ONE OF HER CHEATER FRIENDS GETTING AEAY WITH IT

Fasoll · August 2016

yodased wrote: »

I think there is something that needs to be made unbelievably clear:

There is no levels of cheating that can be allowed.

If you are exploiting a broken set you are cheating as much as someone who is actively modifying game memory.

Your lesser evil is not dismissed because there is a greater evil, why is everything a comparison.

but but but but but johnny didn't get in trouble and his mommy said it was ok, so damnit I DESERVE THIS.

You deserve only the consequence to the action you chose to do, buddy boy, nothing else.

If it's in the game I'm using it , it's literally in the game, how would that he against the rules? If I can put on a set I can use it. Stfu.

Jules · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

LMAO. CALLING HER OUT FOR LAUGHING AT ONE OF HER CHEATER FRIENDS GETTING AEAY WITH IT

Alright I'm legit just gonna block you on the forums. You are terribly creepy and you can't spell and I just can't have that in my life.

Darnathian · August 2016

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

Love how just because she is a girl, talking about her or bringing stuff up she did or what people think she does or what ever is creepy lol

Ps if darnathian gets banned can you give him the number too the service rep that German used?

No, it has nothing to do with being female. It has everything to do with him following me in every thread quoting me and harassing me with laughter taken out of context. It has to do with him admitting to watching my stream just to watch me die and rejoice despite not having played this game in months. It has to do with countless whispers in game and then seeing my picture and telling me what state he lives in and telling me to "come and have fun" with him and his wife.

Yeah. Don't even try and tell me that's not 10/10 creep.

If that's true, that is 10/10 creep.

lol

Jaybe_Mawfaka · August 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

wow so creepy, this witch hunt on na is even better than on eu

This makes me wish we had NA chars. So much salt, and potential for trolling

sigh

Hektik_V · August 2016

inb4tl

Darnathian · August 2016

Jules wrote: »

Working on the ss as we speak. 100% positive I ss'd it.

I fully admit it. In my defense u photo shopped ur pic.

Jules · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Working on the ss as we speak. 100% positive I ss'd it.

I fully admit it. In my defense u photo shopped ur pic.

Please never talk to me again you terrible human being.

Rylana · August 2016

My beautiful thread has started to read like the TMZ gossip section for creepers stalking Kristen Stewart or Beyonce.

Good god, she just aint into you dude, get over it already.

Can we get back to hating on cheating? And I dont mean on your wife.

yodased · August 2016

Fasoll wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

I think there is something that needs to be made unbelievably clear:

There is no levels of cheating that can be allowed.

If you are exploiting a broken set you are cheating as much as someone who is actively modifying game memory.

Your lesser evil is not dismissed because there is a greater evil, why is everything a comparison.

but but but but but johnny didn't get in trouble and his mommy said it was ok, so damnit I DESERVE THIS.

You deserve only the consequence to the action you chose to do, buddy boy, nothing else.

If it's in the game I'm using it , it's literally in the game, how would that he against the rules? If I can put on a set I can use it. Stfu.

You are 17 or 18 years old, you have to be. Definitely <20. and the reason I know that is because you are unable to grasp the fact that there is a right and wrong.

Your moral compass is pointed at ***.

Darnathian · August 2016

Rylana wrote: »

I dont like Jules or her attitude in game, but Darnathian youre crossing a lot of lines here man.

But laughing at her friend for cheating is not?

Rylana · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

I dont like Jules or her attitude in game, but Darnathian youre crossing a lot of lines here man.

But laughing at her friend for cheating is not?

No, its not, its not even close. The fact you seem to not understand that, genuinely bothers me.

Ban him, ban him from the game, yea. Carry the stain of disgrace for all who supported, yeah.

Stalk a chick and start trying to shame her for her personal attributes? Completely off base. Like I said, shes no friend of mine, but as a person youre really looking like a petty sociopath, especially with the level of obsession shown.

Whats the next step, she needs to get a restraining order before you start peeping in windows and sending her your hair in an envelope?

JDar · August 2016

Fasoll wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Fasoll wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Let me clarify something

I mean ALL, i dont mean a subjective wishwash, i literally mean ALL cheats past or present. Double mundus? Get out, Malubeth? Bye Felicia. CE? HAHAHAHAHA. ive watched one after another come and go, and its time.

if that results in an empty game, so be it, remove the cancer and perhaps someday fair play would return or prevail, but as it is today? The culture fostered over almost 3 years of creeping, eating, slow cancer? Yeah, id rather everyone was just gone.

I am a bit more optimistic than that though, there are a lot of decent self respecting players with a sense of honor and integrity out there. The game wouldnt die, the sky wouldnt fall, but we might lose a bar of population in each faction in trueflame or so

I am okay with this, as long as the cancer is gone.

it started small, to be sure, but it spreads, and spreads.

I hate malubeth permablock aids builds. Cyrodiil would be a better place without them. But this is just legit insane.
You can't permaban people bc zos overturned a set and can't fix a bug. Just like permabans for gap closers not working as intended, these are both completely illogical.

Yes, yes you can. Beyond can, should.

Walls up you are in a keep killing people setting up siege? Perm Ban
Gate up and you are in a scroll area? Perm Ban.
You use a broken and completely OP set? Warning, 1 warning, then perm ban.
Cheat engine? Your cpu fan stops working.

The mindset that its in the game so I can use it is the "legit insane" mindset.

They are actually completely logical, because no one is getting banned for gapclosing.

That strawman won't work because people are getting banned for what it is they are doing after the gap close.

go ahead, gap close into a keep right now with 100 people recording you, and then leave the keep without interacting with other players, you won't be in any sort of trouble what-so-ever because you were not exploiting anything, you just clicked a button.

The mindset that "i'm here now because this was broken so everything I do after this is null and void although I KNOW for a fact its not allowed" is "legit insane"

Yeah using a set put in by zos is the same as cheating with a 3rd party program. Lmao. Get out of here dude

Would you have used the set if it wasnt bugged and broken?

If the answer is yes - you are bad at theorycrafting.
If the answer is no - you are part of the cancer.

You're just plain bad at the game.

Great insult.

If I had to choose between people who are bad at the game and people who cheat and exploit, I know which one I would pick. Frankly, I'm a weak player. I'm not hard to kill. But if you regularly kill me and think you are going to bother me by bragging about it here on the forums, then have at it. If that's all you have in life over me, and you cannot say that you are a good person with common decency, then I can live with people like that.

It is a childish and foolish mindset, that the only thing that matters in life to some people is being able to "lol i can rekk u one on one u scrub RIP"

That is what I see when I look at people who exploit to get to the top of the Maelstrom leaderboards and PvP leaderboards.

Darnathian · August 2016

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Working on the ss as we speak. 100% positive I ss'd it.

I fully admit it. In my defense u photo shopped ur pic.

Please never talk to me again you terrible human being.

u blocked me i thought? cheatingagain?

yodased · August 2016

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Working on the ss as we speak. 100% positive I ss'd it.

I fully admit it. In my defense u photo shopped ur pic.

Please never talk to me again you terrible human being.

u blocked me i thought? cheatingagain?

Look man, I don't know you, nor what the person you are harassing did to you, but make no mistake, you are harassing them.

I'm all for calling people on their b.s. and not allowing anyone a pass for any reason, but you are really coming across as simply vindictive and petty.

No one here likes cheating, but you are literally delving into personal attacks on something that has nothing to do with cheating mindset, and they are attacks, not observations.

Please stop this nonsense, you are derailing a legitimate discussion about something some of us take pretty seriously.

Or don't that is your choice, but know that 3rd parties are looking at you with as much distaste as the ones your are berating.

Back on topic, cheaters should be banned.

[Deleted User] · August 2016

Hello everyone,

This post is to let you know that we've felt it necessary to close this thread. The reason being that naming, shaming, harassing, flaming and baiting are all against the Forum Rules. Despite the in-thread notice we left earlier today, this disruptive behavior continued. We understand the discussion on this kind of topic can cause some unease, but please we have to suggest remaining civil and constructive when discussing the matter.

With that being said, there is already an official thread meant for the discussion of cheating and exploits. If you would like to continue discussing the topic, you are more than welcome to here. Just be sure to keep the rules in mind, to prevent any disciplinary action on one's account.

Thank you for understanding.