If you have ever cheated or exploited, for any reason...

God_flakes

Mustard wrote: »

Neither German or ZOS will respond after this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X159ibyyiA&feature=share

I would HOPE someone in charge is researching who the CSR is who keeps reinstating his account. The fact that he has an account and is in line for emp on a major campaign is disgusting in the extreme.

manny254

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

Force-Siphon

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

Jaybe_Mawfaka

wow so creepy, this witch hunt on na is even better than on eu

SleepyTroll

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

Love how just because she is a girl, talking about her or bringing stuff up she did or what people think she does or what ever is creepy lol

Ps if darnathian gets banned can you give him the number too the service rep that German used?

bikerangelo

Thanks Rylana, for singlehandedly dealing with the cheating crisis.

Force-Siphon

Who said anything about it was bc she is a girl? Oh wait that was just you

Lemme explain this in a way you will understand, it is creepy to serial harass someone you are completely obsessed with bringing down off of like one comment about German being unbanned for harassment, that vid had nothing to do with cheat engine

caeliusstarbreaker

Does anyone ever look around the forums and wonder, what the heck are we talking about any more?

SleepyTroll

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Who said anything about it was bc she is a girl? Oh wait that was just you

Lemme explain this in a way you will understand, it is creepy to serial harass someone you are completely obsessed with bringing down off of like one comment about German being unbanned for harassment, that vid had nothing to do with cheat engine

Are you done editing your comment yet so I can reply or no?

Chori

manny254 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

Love you coming to 1vX here at the forums Moji and they never stop to answer any of your points, ever.
Thats respect right there, or maybe them being scared of you calling the bs out like you did before with other people because you have a more respected image than some of them.
Priceless stuff there, cheers man.

timidobserver

Rylana wrote: »

You, should leave. Period. Banned, gone, out, no recourse, no review, just get the hell out.

I know, the game is busted, sure, thats a great copout to shift blame for your own idiotic actions. Sort of like blaming gun manufacturers for being able to shoot someone dead right? Extreme hyperbole, still valid. Take some damn responsibility for yourselves. Any of you reading this who are guilty I sincerely wish you werent here anymore. You dont deserve to be here, no matter how well known, how long youve been here, or how much money youve sunk into the game, I really dont care. Youre lucky as all hell I am no GM. Lucky as hell.

I am frankly disgusted, have been for a long time.

Every conversation in Alliance war lately has revolved around this subject, or has been somewhere in the background. Eleven of the last twenty threads reference it either in the OP or in the first few comments. Proud of yourselves?

Short term gain, long term loss. Pathetic, really it is.

PS: we all know who you all are btw, any theorycrafter or long term competitive player has had you pegged for months. Just stop with the victim card or trying to play nitpick, youre guilty as sin.

Suddenly there is 10 subscribers left after everyone that was running the original mundus exploit, dragon leaping into keeps, nb exploiting through doors, and that one time with the instant kill silver shards thing on vampires are banned.

Rohamad_Ali

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Does anyone ever look around the forums and wonder, what the heck are we talking about any more?

All the time . There's so many feuds I can't keep track . None of it solves the real issue . ZOS .

SleepyTroll

timidobserver wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

You, should leave. Period. Banned, gone, out, no recourse, no review, just get the hell out.

I know, the game is busted, sure, thats a great copout to shift blame for your own idiotic actions. Sort of like blaming gun manufacturers for being able to shoot someone dead right? Extreme hyperbole, still valid. Take some damn responsibility for yourselves. Any of you reading this who are guilty I sincerely wish you werent here anymore. You dont deserve to be here, no matter how well known, how long youve been here, or how much money youve sunk into the game, I really dont care. Youre lucky as all hell I am no GM. Lucky as hell.

I am frankly disgusted, have been for a long time.

Every conversation in Alliance war lately has revolved around this subject, or has been somewhere in the background. Eleven of the last twenty threads reference it either in the OP or in the first few comments. Proud of yourselves?

Short term gain, long term loss. Pathetic, really it is.

PS: we all know who you all are btw, any theorycrafter or long term competitive player has had you pegged for months. Just stop with the victim card or trying to play nitpick, youre guilty as sin.

Suddenly there is 10 subscribers left after everyone that was running the original mundus exploit, dragon leaping into keeps, nb exploiting through doors, and that one time with the instant kill silver shards thing on vampires are banned.

That's not true, just like I'm sure not as many people use/used ce as we think.

Force-Siphon

I'm on my phone sleepy troll and the forums are buggy for me on it

Satiar

Exploring isn't cheating.

Both bad things but putting them together is category error.

antihero727

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

wow so creepy, this witch hunt on na is even better than on eu

The Salem witch trials did happen in NA. Makes sense

God_flakes

Force-Siphon wrote: »

I'm on my phone sleepy troll and the forums are buggy for me on it

L2F(orum).

Force-Siphon

God_flakes wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

I'm on my phone sleepy troll and the forums are buggy for me on it

L2F(orum).

Stahp

Master_Kas

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

wow so creepy, this witch hunt on na is even better than on eu

This makes me wish we had NA chars. So much salt, and potential for trolling

SleepyTroll

Force-Siphon wrote: »

I'm on my phone sleepy troll and the forums are buggy for me on it

Yes as am I, dam auto correct makes my spelling even worse then it allready is. Now I went back and read the posts between darnathian and jules. If jules is if act telling the truth in her like 3rd post (the long one) well then yea that's creepy. Very creepy actually. But if it's not Wich when I first read it is just took it as those two *** talking each other, then I don't see that much creepynes in his first post telling he to leave the thread. More so just *** talking.

Force-Siphon

Master_Kas wrote: »

Jaybe_Mawfaka wrote: »

wow so creepy, this witch hunt on na is even better than on eu

This makes me wish we had NA chars. So much salt, and potential for trolling

No trust me EU is worse y'all are cray cray

God_flakes

Force-Siphon wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

I'm on my phone sleepy troll and the forums are buggy for me on it

L2F(orum).

Stahp

Nahp

Jules

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You seem to be intelligent to understand that you are only a average of the 5 people you spend the most time with.

Loyalty is a fine and admirable trait, but loyalty to scumbags makes you a scumbag by transitive properties in any logical being

I understand what you are going for here, and I respect your opinion. But I do not entirely agree.

Loyalty is loyalty. We all find our own people and reasons to expend this energy. We might not always agree with the choices or actions of those bestowed with such, but that doesn't negate its presence. Loyalty may be blind, it may be full of folly, but it is not intended to be wavering merely because it is tested.

You become like the 5 people you spend the most time with, this is true. It is for this reason that I am the player I am today. You can paint it with a negative connotation, as if to say I am merely a summation of these 5 for all the worst reasons, but I see it inversely. I am still very much independent. I am independent enough to know that it is possible to learn things from others you meet, while simultaneously maintaining your personal integrity and identity. This may be too complex a concept for some to digest, but not for me.

It is very simple.

If the choice is between the hate tells I continually get calling me a cheater/speed hacker/baddie/ugly/fat/h0re, and turning my back on people I consider friends, keep em coming.

Rohamad_Ali

3 cheers for Dukes of Hazard criminal family loyalty RP .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hxD0PqVlt5Q

God_flakes

Jules wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You seem to be intelligent to understand that you are only a average of the 5 people you spend the most time with.

Loyalty is a fine and admirable trait, but loyalty to scumbags makes you a scumbag by transitive properties in any logical being

I understand what you are going for here, and I respect your opinion. But I do not entitely agree.

Loyalty is loyalty. We all find our own people and reasons to expend this energy. We might not always agree with the choices or actions of those bestowed with such, but that doesn't negate its presence. Loyalty may be blind, it may be full of folly, but it is not intended to be wavering merely because it is tested.

You become like the 5 people you spend the most time with, this is true. It is for this reason that I am the player I am today. You can paint it with a negative connotation, as if to say I am merely a summation of these 5 for all the worst reasons, but I see it inversely. I am still very much independent. I am independent enough to know that it is possible to learn things from others you meet, while simultaneously maintaining your personal integrity and identity. This may be too complex a concept for some to digest, but not for me.

It is very simple.

If the choice is between the hate tells I continually get calling me a cheater/speed hacker/baddie/ugly/fat/h0re, and turning my back on people I consider friends, keep em coming.

The video from your stream speaks for itself. Your snickering and chuckling at German "getting away with it" in combination with the SS of people claiming you yourself have "gotten away with it to date", while circumstantial, is evidence enough for plenty of people to see through your claims of innocence on the forums. I agree with Rylana, German should be banned and should have been banned a long, long time ago. You want to sit here and lecture me about compassion? Do you give any craps how many good players have quit because of the antics of German and people like him? I really seriously doubt it.

Jules

manny254 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

I have said plenty to him in person that is not evidenced on this thread or anywhere on these forums because I don't feel the need to publicize everything. You have no insight into the friendships in this group or how they function, or whether I do indeed "call him out on the truth" or not. To carelessly assume that I have or have not is based entirely on your imagination and not in reality. Go back and read what I wrote again.

I have neither condemned nor absolved him for specific reason. Because it is impossible to remain unbiased. Everything else you said operates off the assumption that I was defending him. I am merely explaining my position and my reasoning for my loyalty to my friends. I would think, as someone who played closely with lowpolicy for such a long time, you would understand the impossible conundrum much better.

Jules

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Y'all are acting like people are running around dropping 10 meteors on jules command. Stop being weird and creepy jules streams and is not cheating or condoning cheating.darnathian and others are being creeps at this point and need to get a real life and quit being obsessed with someone in a game.

Creep factor 10/10

Like how is that not breaking the TOS for harassment, something that is the main point of why German was banned in that video yall keep linking. Darnathian should be banned from the forums tbh

Love how just because she is a girl, talking about her or bringing stuff up she did or what people think she does or what ever is creepy lol

Ps if darnathian gets banned can you give him the number too the service rep that German used?

No, it has nothing to do with being female. It has everything to do with him following me in every thread quoting me and harassing me with laughter taken out of context. It has to do with him admitting to watching my stream just to watch me die and rejoice despite not having played this game in months. It has to do with countless whispers in game and then seeing my picture and telling me what state he lives in and telling me to "come and have fun" with him and his wife.

Yeah. Don't even try and tell me that's not 10/10 creep.

RinaldoGandolphi

SleepyTroll

Jules wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

I have said plenty to him in person that is not evidenced on this thread or anywhere on these forums because I don't feel the need to publicize everything. You have no insight into the friendships in this group or how they function, or whether I do indeed "call him out on the truth" or not. To carelessly assume that I have or have not is based entirely on your imagination and not in reality. Go back and read what I wrote again.

I have neither condemned nor absolved him for specific reason. Because it is impossible to remain unbiased. Everything else you said operates off the assumption that I was defending him. I am merely explaining my position and my reasoning for my loyalty to my friends. I would think, as someone who played closely with lowpolicy for such a long time, you would understand the impossible conundrum much better.

How is hard to remain unbiased? My friend used CE and got perma banned I mean, I can except that. It's really not that hard.

Edit: and he deserved what he got.

Publius_Scipio

Jules wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

So you tell me that every player that have ever used wall of elements, lethal arrow, ferocious leap, sharpend weapons etc should all be permanently banned?

I get that you are upset, truly. But if zos hadn't made exploiting and cheating "ok" by never punishing it for almost 2 years things would've been different. If they even fixed the broken skills that allowed players to exploit it faster then once every major patch it would also send different signals to the community. At the moment it's just abuse it while you can, it won't be fixed for several months anyways.

Useing 3rd party software and useing a skill in a way that zos isn't even fixing is two completely different things. 3rd party software is on the players, but broken skills is not our responsibility to fix.

Should stacking nirnhoned in 1.6 for 40k+ spell resistance be on this list too?

If so, rip us all

GTFO this thread. Wow. "How did you get away with it? lololololol"

Please stop harassing me.

Please stop encouraging/cheating. I watched your stteam last night a little. Funny how killable u are now. lol. Justice.

I have never cheated or condoned cheating so the implication of such is unfounded. I am no more or less "killable" now than I was ever before, and if I am it can easily be attributed to swapping from heavy to medium armor recently and being squisher at the sacrifice of having better mobility. I explained this multiple times last night.

You can create whatever fallacies you like in your mind. I do not care what you think. I never really did, but especially have not since you disgustingly tried to flirt with me and solicited me to meet you and your wife in real life on these very forums.

You can continue to think what you want and spread lies based upon hearsay all you want. You can continue to watch my stream albeit creepy that a person who doesn't play this game has such an infatuation with it and with me in particular.

But my request is simple that you stop harassing me. This is the third thread you have brought me up in in less than 48 hours with the exact same lines, quoting and baiting me in threads such as @Vulsin 's who have nothing to do with this.

Stop trying to bait me. Stop harassing me. I have nothing to say or prove to you in any way, shape, or form.

I personally would consider that five different people using CE while in your TS would be considered condoning cheating.

Jules wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

tisk tisk tisk Jules. If only you had stayed DC with Bulbasir and Steve way back when. You and I could have been buddies and you wouldn't have run with the wrong crowd. Quite frankly I would have shared my Greek yogurt with you if you'd had asked. Instead you chose the life of "fake DC". You chose to allow being associated with those that are lightning rods for controversy. And you held on to those rods as lightning struck.

This is a silly post like all of your posts but it is saturated in truth as well.

To me, friendship transcends public opinion. Friendship transcends public hatred. If you can't stand by your friend when everyone hates them then you aren't much of a friend at all.

That is my choice, I am aware of it. I am aware of the tarnish it gives to me and the damage it has caused to my reputation.

Luckily for me, I care more about character than reputation. And reputation is merely what others think of you, while character is who you are. I know who I am. I know I don't cheat and I know never have and never will. I know that in my heart. I would swear that on a bible, on the constitution, on the souls of those I love and everything I hold true in this life. I would only make such statements because I know beyond the shadow of a doubt its validity and sincerity.

This is just a game. But I respect this game, I love this game. However, I love my friends too. It's a very unfortunate catch 22 I find myself in, but it is what it is. The community can hate me if they see fit, which is what many have decided already. But my conscience is clear and I am willing to bet that if anyone throwing shade at me were in the position I find myself now, they would not find it so easy to navigate through.

You are not being a friend to him. You if anything are hurting him. A true friend would call their friend on the truth. A true friend would not blindly stick up for them despite knowing the truth. All you are doing is setting him up for failure in the future. You don't have to condemn him, but don't come and defend him with lies. The fact of the matter is he will always be under suspicion because he did cheat, and people are justified in feeling like that.

I don't understand what you are saying about character either. Have you ever stopped to consider all the players that have spent months trying to improve their vMA times? Have you considered how selfish it was for a player to use CE to get the number one score in the world. Have you considered the gross lack of care for other human beings that demonstrates? Have you considered that defending that behavior shows the same amount of selfishness, and lack of empathy for others?

I have said plenty to him in person that is not evidenced on this thread or anywhere on these forums because I don't feel the need to publicize everything. You have no insight into the friendships in this group or how they function, or whether I do indeed "call him out on the truth" or not. To carelessly assume that I have or have not is based entirely on your imagination and not in reality. Go back and read what I wrote again.

I have neither condemned nor absolved him for specific reason. Because it is impossible to remain unbiased. Everything else you said operates off the assumption that I was defending him. I am merely explaining my position and my reasoning for my loyalty to my friends. I would think, as someone who played closely with lowpolicy for such a long time, you would understand the impossible conundrum much better.

Let me just make one thing clear here. Lowpolicy was a bum! he lived his life according to low policies! And he was brutally jealous of his elf counterpart Mojican. Mojican didn't know it but Lowpolicy was plotting to stab him in the back! I was about to do the unthinkable (I know, me helping an elf) but ZOS stepped in first.