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  • Armitas
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    yodased wrote: »
    That being said, I have a blast with my mDK and they have to be careful with the buffs given because I could be an absolute monster if you increased my burst capability from range.

    That is a wise warning but it's different on Azuras. My mDK comes alive over there. They say we are the most balanced class having to make actual choices when it comes to grabbing sustain/damage/survival. It seems that on Azuras the other classes get brought down to our level because now they have to choose between sustain or damage. People actually get stuck in my talons on Azuras...It's like a time warp back to beta. Last weekend I was thinking the same thing, "if they aren't careful they will make us OP again". But then I go to TrueFrame and see how large the gap is over there.

    I wish they would just remove CP for all campaigns. It would solve so many problems.
    Edited by Armitas on August 9, 2016 6:18PM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • yodased
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    I dont play on the other campaigns, and I think everyone knows that, so I am obviously biased to Azuras, but it feels right there so I don't leave.

    Allowing the try hard players to 1 shot me while I miss 99% of attacks? No thanks.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Armitas
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    yodased wrote: »
    I dont play on the other campaigns, and I think everyone knows that, so I am obviously biased to Azuras, but it feels right there so I don't leave.

    It does, it feels very very right on Azuras. It's like a hidden shangri la. So many builds become viable, so many sets, it's like going back in time before they wrecked combat.
    Edited by Armitas on August 9, 2016 7:41PM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Burning_Talons
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

    Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

    This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
    You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

    I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
    But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

    You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

    Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and
    So you complain that DK counter one and only one of the Sorc skills? Grow up, that is why we will never have a balance.

    Yes, I do. Because crystal shard is the breed and butter of Mag Sorcs. You can't kill without crystal shard= immortal DK
    It's not my fault that we have nothing else in our arsenal besides frags. Maybe this shows you how pitiful Sorc damage is.

    But I think the worst thing, is that force shock is reflectable. It's a freaking beam according to its visual :D

    Force shock isn't just reflectable, it counts as three so a light attack+crushing shock+frag should guarantee the frag hits as long as the DK doesn't reapply wings in between (which gets expensive).

    OMG. Please, it was bad enough so far. But now even wrong informations ? Please go.
    Force shock counts as 1 projectile, that was even stated in the patchnotes of 1.6
    Wings was nerfed at this point and force shock only counts as 1 projectile since then.

    Force shock also only counts as 1 hit for elemental drain (formerly 3 hits)
    If you are a DK, then you would definately know this. But I'm sure you got used to your immortality VS Sorcs. I as a Sorc know how it feels to get all my shocks and frags reflected back at me.

    You just suck. I had plenty of sorcs smack me around using Curse And Endless fury while hitting me with an unsuspecting frag. Stop crying because you lost to the most pitiful class in the game
  • NBrookus
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    Azura's is definitely growing on me. I agree that Magicka DK is much more viable in no-CP campaigns, and much more fun.

    But still the redheaded stepchild compared to my (mostly) stam DK.
    Edited by NBrookus on August 10, 2016 1:36PM
  • Dracane
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

    Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

    This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
    You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

    I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
    But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

    You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

    Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and
    So you complain that DK counter one and only one of the Sorc skills? Grow up, that is why we will never have a balance.

    Yes, I do. Because crystal shard is the breed and butter of Mag Sorcs. You can't kill without crystal shard= immortal DK
    It's not my fault that we have nothing else in our arsenal besides frags. Maybe this shows you how pitiful Sorc damage is.

    But I think the worst thing, is that force shock is reflectable. It's a freaking beam according to its visual :D

    Force shock isn't just reflectable, it counts as three so a light attack+crushing shock+frag should guarantee the frag hits as long as the DK doesn't reapply wings in between (which gets expensive).

    OMG. Please, it was bad enough so far. But now even wrong informations ? Please go.
    Force shock counts as 1 projectile, that was even stated in the patchnotes of 1.6
    Wings was nerfed at this point and force shock only counts as 1 projectile since then.

    Force shock also only counts as 1 hit for elemental drain (formerly 3 hits)
    If you are a DK, then you would definately know this. But I'm sure you got used to your immortality VS Sorcs. I as a Sorc know how it feels to get all my shocks and frags reflected back at me.

    You just suck. I had plenty of sorcs smack me around using Curse And Endless fury while hitting me with an unsuspecting frag. Stop crying because you lost to the most pitiful class in the game

    I haven't lost :) I am a pet Sorcerer and I have something I can do against Dragonknights.
    But normal Sorcerer don't stand the slightest chance against a somewhat skilled DK.

    And the times where a frag, curse and fury are enough to burst someone down, are long gone.
    If frag and curse really is enough to bring you from 100% to 20%, then the problem lies within you.
    Edited by Dracane on August 10, 2016 10:49AM
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

    My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos
  • JudahXBL
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

    Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

    This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
    You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

    I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
    But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

    You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

    Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and
    So you complain that DK counter one and only one of the Sorc skills? Grow up, that is why we will never have a balance.

    Yes, I do. Because crystal shard is the breed and butter of Mag Sorcs. You can't kill without crystal shard= immortal DK
    It's not my fault that we have nothing else in our arsenal besides frags. Maybe this shows you how pitiful Sorc damage is.

    But I think the worst thing, is that force shock is reflectable. It's a freaking beam according to its visual :D

    Force shock isn't just reflectable, it counts as three so a light attack+crushing shock+frag should guarantee the frag hits as long as the DK doesn't reapply wings in between (which gets expensive).

    OMG. Please, it was bad enough so far. But now even wrong informations ? Please go.
    Force shock counts as 1 projectile, that was even stated in the patchnotes of 1.6
    Wings was nerfed at this point and force shock only counts as 1 projectile since then.

    Force shock also only counts as 1 hit for elemental drain (formerly 3 hits)
    If you are a DK, then you would definately know this. But I'm sure you got used to your immortality VS Sorcs. I as a Sorc know how it feels to get all my shocks and frags reflected back at me.

    You just suck. I had plenty of sorcs smack me around using Curse And Endless fury while hitting me with an unsuspecting frag. Stop crying because you lost to the most pitiful class in the game

    Oh, I thought he was getting railed by mDKs, not Mag NBs. D=
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    JudahXBL wrote: »
    JudahXBL wrote: »
    Bromburak wrote: »
    I have no DK experience, just want something clarified:
    is it impossible to make even a total glass cannon mDK build?
    If you completely sacrifice all survivability/sustain, can you at least get burst damage on par of other mag classes?

    No, whatever you do as mDK = no burst and outhealed.
    DKs have nothing that brings you in trouble in comparison to any other mClass.

    No matter how good you are as a player, there is nothing you can do about it.
    Decent mDK player vs. decent xClass player = no chance, the game won't let you.

    That's not true. Even when fighting high HP stamplars with Sun Shield, they can be 2-shot in optimal scenarios. Elegant+IA+Kena wîth Sharpened Inferno and then Stone Fist (if it hits lol), Talons, weave your light attacks to proc mag+stam drain, Structured Entropy boosted by Igneous (40%) and CP (25%) and you're talking 35k+ heavy atacks and all they can do is watch and die. They might get one heal off, but they won't be able to sustain much more than that. And if they do, 1 Soul Assault will fix that. Vanguard has gotten as high as 42k crits on players and has streamed multiple 1vX fights using the build (no Impen) and won.

    That's the only effective way a mDK can be a glass cannon, but it CAN be done.

    I must see this to believe it. Not against scrub players either. If I see a bunch of scrubs in the clip You will lose footing here. Any links you can share to this footage?

    Won't let me embed. Here's a tweaked survival vid of him hitting 23-33k on some guys without debuffs and also slotting in more defensive gear and skills.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrvvi_7NY8

    First I want to say thank you for sharing it. Second, it's always great to see people trying new things out on mDK. Love seeing that :smile:

    Now for the breakdown. Would have been better to see more combat footage with more skilled player opponents. I only saw one 501 CP enemy. And never really saw him getting ccd and pressured by opponents. But the build illustrates what we as a community have been echoing since 1.6. Class heal is lack luster. Spammable class attack is weak compared to other classes. Regardless I shared the video to a friend who has also been thinking about a build like that.
  • Minalan
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    JudahXBL wrote: »
    JudahXBL wrote: »
    Bromburak wrote: »
    I have no DK experience, just want something clarified:
    is it impossible to make even a total glass cannon mDK build?
    If you completely sacrifice all survivability/sustain, can you at least get burst damage on par of other mag classes?

    No, whatever you do as mDK = no burst and outhealed.
    DKs have nothing that brings you in trouble in comparison to any other mClass.

    No matter how good you are as a player, there is nothing you can do about it.
    Decent mDK player vs. decent xClass player = no chance, the game won't let you.

    That's not true. Even when fighting high HP stamplars with Sun Shield, they can be 2-shot in optimal scenarios. Elegant+IA+Kena wîth Sharpened Inferno and then Stone Fist (if it hits lol), Talons, weave your light attacks to proc mag+stam drain, Structured Entropy boosted by Igneous (40%) and CP (25%) and you're talking 35k+ heavy atacks and all they can do is watch and die. They might get one heal off, but they won't be able to sustain much more than that. And if they do, 1 Soul Assault will fix that. Vanguard has gotten as high as 42k crits on players and has streamed multiple 1vX fights using the build (no Impen) and won.

    That's the only effective way a mDK can be a glass cannon, but it CAN be done.

    I must see this to believe it. Not against scrub players either. If I see a bunch of scrubs in the clip You will lose footing here. Any links you can share to this footage?

    Won't let me embed. Here's a tweaked survival vid of him hitting 23-33k on some guys without debuffs and also slotting in more defensive gear and skills.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrvvi_7NY8

    First I want to say thank you for sharing it. Second, it's always great to see people trying new things out on mDK. Love seeing that :smile:

    Now for the breakdown. Would have been better to see more combat footage with more skilled player opponents. I only saw one 501 CP enemy. And never really saw him getting ccd and pressured by opponents. But the build illustrates what we as a community have been echoing since 1.6. Class heal is lack luster. Spammable class attack is weak compared to other classes. Regardless I shared the video to a friend who has also been thinking about a build like that.

    That build is insane, especially in a group when people arent dodging and blocking every single heavy attack. I ran with a friend of mine doing it in IC, with sharpened maelstrom fire staff it was pulling 18-20K per hit. We destroyed people, and the hate tells were fantastic.

    "You think you're so skilled with that sh** hacker build?"

    Note: There is a setup for that kind of hit, and some practice to pull it off. You need to empower (structured entropy works), and you need to proc Kena with two quick light attacks. Even without the empower/Kena it practically one-shots a vampire.


  • JudahXBL
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    JudahXBL wrote: »
    JudahXBL wrote: »
    Bromburak wrote: »
    I have no DK experience, just want something clarified:
    is it impossible to make even a total glass cannon mDK build?
    If you completely sacrifice all survivability/sustain, can you at least get burst damage on par of other mag classes?

    No, whatever you do as mDK = no burst and outhealed.
    DKs have nothing that brings you in trouble in comparison to any other mClass.

    No matter how good you are as a player, there is nothing you can do about it.
    Decent mDK player vs. decent xClass player = no chance, the game won't let you.

    That's not true. Even when fighting high HP stamplars with Sun Shield, they can be 2-shot in optimal scenarios. Elegant+IA+Kena wîth Sharpened Inferno and then Stone Fist (if it hits lol), Talons, weave your light attacks to proc mag+stam drain, Structured Entropy boosted by Igneous (40%) and CP (25%) and you're talking 35k+ heavy atacks and all they can do is watch and die. They might get one heal off, but they won't be able to sustain much more than that. And if they do, 1 Soul Assault will fix that. Vanguard has gotten as high as 42k crits on players and has streamed multiple 1vX fights using the build (no Impen) and won.

    That's the only effective way a mDK can be a glass cannon, but it CAN be done.

    I must see this to believe it. Not against scrub players either. If I see a bunch of scrubs in the clip You will lose footing here. Any links you can share to this footage?

    Won't let me embed. Here's a tweaked survival vid of him hitting 23-33k on some guys without debuffs and also slotting in more defensive gear and skills.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrvvi_7NY8

    First I want to say thank you for sharing it. Second, it's always great to see people trying new things out on mDK. Love seeing that :smile:

    Now for the breakdown. Would have been better to see more combat footage with more skilled player opponents. I only saw one 501 CP enemy. And never really saw him getting ccd and pressured by opponents. But the build illustrates what we as a community have been echoing since 1.6. Class heal is lack luster. Spammable class attack is weak compared to other classes. Regardless I shared the video to a friend who has also been thinking about a build like that.

    I run with Templar who stuns enemies and heals me. We haven't lost a 2v2-3 yet lol. But yeah, I've been saying for a while we need a better self heal. Dragon Blood should be reworked as a HoT or something. Like a Magicka Vigor. If I could sustain without having to spam Healing Ward, life would be much easier on my mDK. I'm sill a proponent of Lava Whip being an execution, as well.

    And yeah, this build is great. My own DPS parses seem much higher on PVE with it, as well.
  • Burning_Talons
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    JudahXBL wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

    Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

    This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
    You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

    I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
    But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

    You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

    Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and
    So you complain that DK counter one and only one of the Sorc skills? Grow up, that is why we will never have a balance.

    Yes, I do. Because crystal shard is the breed and butter of Mag Sorcs. You can't kill without crystal shard= immortal DK
    It's not my fault that we have nothing else in our arsenal besides frags. Maybe this shows you how pitiful Sorc damage is.

    But I think the worst thing, is that force shock is reflectable. It's a freaking beam according to its visual :D

    Force shock isn't just reflectable, it counts as three so a light attack+crushing shock+frag should guarantee the frag hits as long as the DK doesn't reapply wings in between (which gets expensive).

    OMG. Please, it was bad enough so far. But now even wrong informations ? Please go.
    Force shock counts as 1 projectile, that was even stated in the patchnotes of 1.6
    Wings was nerfed at this point and force shock only counts as 1 projectile since then.

    Force shock also only counts as 1 hit for elemental drain (formerly 3 hits)
    If you are a DK, then you would definately know this. But I'm sure you got used to your immortality VS Sorcs. I as a Sorc know how it feels to get all my shocks and frags reflected back at me.

    You just suck. I had plenty of sorcs smack me around using Curse And Endless fury while hitting me with an unsuspecting frag. Stop crying because you lost to the most pitiful class in the game

    Oh, I thought he was getting railed by mDKs, not Mag NBs. D=

    Lol as bad as they may be they are better off due to teleporting and cloaking. They need to fix cloak tho
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    Dgaf. Roll a NB and ride the flaming airplane into the ground with zos. Or play another game.
  • RouDeR
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    If you think magica dk sux , try light armor destro heavy attack. Empowered + kena +elegance in pve i do 50-55k crits ,pvp 15 -25k crits ^^
  • Bromburak
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    @Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

    Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

    This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
    You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

    I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
    But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

    You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

    Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and
    So you complain that DK counter one and only one of the Sorc skills? Grow up, that is why we will never have a balance.

    Yes, I do. Because crystal shard is the breed and butter of Mag Sorcs. You can't kill without crystal shard= immortal DK
    It's not my fault that we have nothing else in our arsenal besides frags. Maybe this shows you how pitiful Sorc damage is.

    But I think the worst thing, is that force shock is reflectable. It's a freaking beam according to its visual :D

    Force shock isn't just reflectable, it counts as three so a light attack+crushing shock+frag should guarantee the frag hits as long as the DK doesn't reapply wings in between (which gets expensive).

    OMG. Please, it was bad enough so far. But now even wrong informations ? Please go.
    Force shock counts as 1 projectile, that was even stated in the patchnotes of 1.6
    Wings was nerfed at this point and force shock only counts as 1 projectile since then.

    Force shock also only counts as 1 hit for elemental drain (formerly 3 hits)
    If you are a DK, then you would definately know this. But I'm sure you got used to your immortality VS Sorcs. I as a Sorc know how it feels to get all my shocks and frags reflected back at me.

    You just suck. I had plenty of sorcs smack me around using Curse And Endless fury while hitting me with an unsuspecting frag. Stop crying because you lost to the most pitiful class in the game

    I haven't lost :)I am a pet Sorcerer and I have something I can do against Dragonknights.
    But normal Sorcerer don't stand the slightest chance against a somewhat skilled DK.

    No target control and a 13K twilight? ;)
    Edited by Bromburak on August 12, 2016 6:23AM
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    RouDeR wrote: »
    If you think magica dk sux , try light armor destro heavy attack. Empowered + kena +elegance in pve i do 50-55k crits ,pvp 15 -25k crits ^^

    @RouDeR this is a good gank build, but not viable for open world PvP. Heavy destro attacks are too easy to dodge or avoid with shuffle. It was fun to gank people as a mDK though!
  • RouDeR
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    RouDeR wrote: »
    If you think magica dk sux , try light armor destro heavy attack. Empowered + kena +elegance in pve i do 50-55k crits ,pvp 15 -25k crits ^^

    @RouDeR this is a good gank build, but not viable for open world PvP. Heavy destro attacks are too easy to dodge or avoid with shuffle. It was fun to gank people as a mDK though!

    I run it just fine in cyrodiil , shuffle users are anoying due to 70%dodge chance ,but if you have a friend running the same.build or the stam Bow equivalent you can actualy burst down 99% of the pple in 3 seconds , this is zerg anihilation build if 2 or more pple are running the build , its so fun xD

  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    @RouDeR yep. In a group mDK shines, whether the traditional SnB CC build or a heavy destro build. But solo open world, it doesn't do anything that can't be done better on another class.
  • Cronopoly
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    R4B0N3 wrote: »
    Title - "Magicka dragonknights are the worst class in the game"
    Magicka Dragonknights are terrible in PVP, SNIP...

    Magicka Dragonkight is NOT a class. 1st off. Dragonknight is a class. And they are hardly the worst Class.

    Your title would be better being more specific, that Magicka "Specialization" sucks compared to Stamina Specialization on every Class except Templar at the moment for various reasons in PVP.

    In PVE all classes and specs are ok and can hold their own, except Sorc Pet line in group setting...imo
    Edited by Cronopoly on August 15, 2016 4:59PM
  • Toast_STS
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    I got a 55k attack with my lightning staff once. Got to abuse that molten armaments, mDK's only advantage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV8K9uHhJSY
    Edited by Toast_STS on August 15, 2016 7:00PM
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  • Attackopsn
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    You clearly haven't seen the new Argonian Magicka Dragonknight Bow and Destruction Staff Meta
    ign: ATTACKO
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    First NA Completion of VMoL Hard Mode


  • Apherius
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    maybe the Mdk is not very good in PVP , i say maybe .

    BUT d'ont forgot than in PVE the Mdk is the second/first magicka dps class ! with a Good gameplay , a good dps , interesting rotation !
    Edited by Apherius on August 16, 2016 5:52PM
  • Xvorg
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    I'm working on my magicka DK, and he's doing it OK.

    I call the idea "Ye old rules", because he uses much of the old meta for DKs.
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

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    In the wrong house
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    I took the wrong road
    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
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    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
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