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How come PvE vendors don't sell Monster Gears?
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Reykice✭✭✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Before you troll us more i will just say that there are people that solo the vet dungeons. Yep. Solo. The ones that do not have mechanics preventing that anyway.
So if you have like 4 people unable to do them they are simply not trying hard enough. It is a game after all and like any game you need a bit of skill to do it, they are designed for gamers and not people who see a mouse/controller for the 1st time.1 -
Ragnaarok✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Did you just say that you can't complete vDSC because you need a team of elite players? Are you sure you're not the problem here? Minus vICP and vWGT, nearly every single vet dungeon can be completed with less than 4 people - 4 above average but nowhere near 'elite' and without a healer or tank.. Hell me and my mate 2 man DPS'd v16 city of ash. Rapid regens and ele drain work wonders3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
There is no OUR. Everything in this game is for EVERYONE. Stop dividing players, you're encouraging conflict.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭I've not read the whole thread so I'm probably repeating a lot of people.
The vendor isn't located in any dangerous zone. It's literally the same as fast travelling anywhere else except you click a different button. It takes the same amount of time, you can ignore the PvP, join any campaign to get there... There's really no difference (other than clicking a button instead of a wayshrine) than if it were to be placed anywhere else
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Not really its more of us PVPers vendors Since its the only way for us to get impen monster set pieces.Pure pve players like the OP can get the mask of their choice by farming .We can't plus it only sell infused where most end game. pVE players would want Divines.It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
There is no OUR. Everything in this game is for EVERYONE. Stop dividing players, you're encouraging conflict.0 -
Mortehl✭✭✭Good God, people will find -anything- to whine about. Queue into a freaking campaign. Takes 10 seconds. Make a new character if you have to. Whiny lazy self entitled pansies.5
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✭✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »If they actually placed a vendor in pve areas, it would become a huge goldsink for this game. I know too many players who refuse to enter Cyrodiil at all costs, and base area & siege tutorial included.
btw. OP do you play on NA or EU server?
I play on the NA servers in AD faction.0 -
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✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Before you troll us more i will just say that there are people that solo the vet dungeons. Yep. Solo. The ones that do not have mechanics preventing that anyway.
So if you have like 4 people unable to do them they are simply not trying hard enough. It is a game after all and like any game you need a bit of skill to do it, they are designed for gamers and not people who see a mouse/controller for the 1st time.
Before you start lying with silly words why not show some video evidence of someone solo vet dungeons? Text is useless. Yeah show me a video of someone successfully and without dying solo a vet dungeons such as vICP, vWGT and vDarkshades.
No video no evidence... it NEVER happen and it's all talk and no action. So prove to me that it can happen... that someone from an elite statue can successfully complete a vet dungeon without so much of dying.
By the way this game (ESO - Elder Scrolls Online) is not suppose to be solo based. It's an Online game that requires team work from your team mates. All of this solo talk crap is just macho talk that smells foul. This game is a Massively multiplayer online role-playing game after all.0 -
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✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »Because PvE'ers have the option when they do the dungeons
For someone like me that doesn't PvE and only PvPs this is a nice way to spend my AP on otherwise grind out PvE sets
For someone like me who don't have access to an elite group of players I find it difficult to complete a solid dungeon run. Also the game doesn't realize what kind of clothing you wear.Good God, people will find -anything- to whine about. Queue into a freaking campaign. Takes 10 seconds. Make a new character if you have to. Whiny lazy self entitled pansies.
Oh really? How come it took me between 20 to 30 mins last night for me to enter the campaign? No I'm not going to make a new character either. Why should I? Give me a reason why I should.
No I'm not being "entitled" I'm just requesting an add on to Pve.
Jesus Christ you guys are so overly dramatic.0 -
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✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Before you troll us more i will just say that there are people that solo the vet dungeons. Yep. Solo. The ones that do not have mechanics preventing that anyway.
So if you have like 4 people unable to do them they are simply not trying hard enough. It is a game after all and like any game you need a bit of skill to do it, they are designed for gamers and not people who see a mouse/controller for the 1st time.
Before you start lying with silly words why not show some video evidence of someone solo vet dungeons? Text is useless. Yeah show me a video of someone successfully and without dying solo a vet dungeons such as vICP, vWGT and vDarkshades.
No video no evidence... it NEVER happen and it's all talk and no action. So prove to me that it can happen... that someone from an elite statue can successfully complete a vet dungeon without so much of dying.
By the way this game (ESO - Elder Scrolls Online) is not suppose to be solo based. It's an Online game that requires team work from your team mates. All of this solo talk crap is just macho talk that smells foul. This game is a Massively multiplayer online role-playing game after all.
Here you go @Thelon thread and video https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/255196/thelon-solos-five-veteran-dungeons this guy is a monster with a pet build.
@raidentenshu_ESO if your AD PC NA You could have just switch your campaign to azura star no one plays their.Edited by Jaronking on July 24, 2016 12:04AM1 -
Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Before you troll us more i will just say that there are people that solo the vet dungeons. Yep. Solo. The ones that do not have mechanics preventing that anyway.
So if you have like 4 people unable to do them they are simply not trying hard enough. It is a game after all and like any game you need a bit of skill to do it, they are designed for gamers and not people who see a mouse/controller for the 1st time.
Before you start lying with silly words why not show some video evidence of someone solo vet dungeons? Text is useless. Yeah show me a video of someone successfully and without dying solo a vet dungeons such as vICP, vWGT and vDarkshades.
No video no evidence... it NEVER happen and it's all talk and no action. So prove to me that it can happen... that someone from an elite statue can successfully complete a vet dungeon without so much of dying.
By the way this game (ESO - Elder Scrolls Online) is not suppose to be solo based. It's an Online game that requires team work from your team mates. All of this solo talk crap is just macho talk that smells foul. This game is a Massively multiplayer online role-playing game after all.
People already said WGT and ICP fall under a more difficult category, and cannot be soloed.
As for the rest of the vet dungeons, each and every one can be soloed (provided that there is no mechanics that can prevent that like Gamyne Bandu in Fungal Grotto).
That being said, before WGT and ICP, veteran City of Ash was considered the most difficult dungeon.
Now you can watch it being soloed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQS9g3moHvM
EDIT: as for "long queue times": there are always campaigns with low population. If you did not know, you can assign a Home, and a Guest campaign. I suggest you make a low population campaign your Guest campaign, and go there to buy Monster sets.Edited by Dubhliam on July 24, 2016 12:28AM2 -
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Not really its more of us PVPers vendors Since its the only way for us to get impen monster set pieces.Pure pve players like the OP can get the mask of their choice by farming .We can't plus it only sell infused where most end game. pVE players would want Divines.It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
There is no OUR. Everything in this game is for EVERYONE. Stop dividing players, you're encouraging conflict.
Ok if it was for pvp only there everything would be for ap. Just look at how the trait coordinates with currency used.0 -
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✭pecheckler wrote: »I'm an advocate for fairness to PvE only players but the only problem I see here is the lengthy queue times required to reach the vendor. I can make 100k gold flipping items faster than I can make 200k alliance points getting farmed by nightblades.
Which server/platform and what timezone? Because there is almost always a empty or not so full server in EU, but then again, we have 3 more servers compared to US. Somewhere like Haderus, there is barely a living soul even on peak time during weekends because everyone plays on the 30 day camps. That is the true PvE campaign because it's always empty.
If not, how about going there in the morning? There will never be a queue in the mornings on any server/platform, that's a guarantee.
Even if someone has a busy life, I'm sure if they wanted said monster item that bad they can allocate 2 minutes of their time to hop in Cyrodiil, quickly grab the item and log back off to go around their day. OP is just being a troll or absolutely clueless.Edited by Egonieser on July 24, 2016 12:42AMSometimes, I dream about...cheese...
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Well it should be but if ZOS did that am sure it be a riot.I can still remember all of the threads of people complaining about it and saying it wasn't fair.If they didn't make it a split many players would have been upset.
Not really its more of us PVPers vendors Since its the only way for us to get impen monster set pieces.Pure pve players like the OP can get the mask of their choice by farming .We can't plus it only sell infused where most end game. pVE players would want Divines.It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
There is no OUR. Everything in this game is for EVERYONE. Stop dividing players, you're encouraging conflict.
Ok if it was for pvp only there everything would be for ap. Just look at how the trait coordinates with currency used.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭@raidentenshu_ESO I'm one of those people who can solo vet Darkshade. I don't have a video recording, but I assure you, it's definitely possible.
All that having been said, my first time in vet Darkshade, it was with a 4-person group, and we wiped for hours. The next time it was the pledge, I refused to do it because it was "too hard". This was over a year ago, and a lot has changed since then. Namely, I've learned to play the game.
None of the so-called "elite" players started out as "elite". Everyone starts out at the bottom. My first clears of all the vet dungeons were with people of my experience level (that is, people who sucked as badly as I did), and we all "grew up together". I'm actually of the opinion that having a so-called "elite" player in your group to carry you through does you a great disservice, as you don't really get that full learning experience. I much rather play with friends who are at my experience level (and by friends, I mean in-game friends--people I meet in random dungeons, in trade guilds, etc.--none of my real-life friends play this game) and progress alongside them.
As people suggested earlier, whenever you run a dungeon with random people and one or more of those people turn out to be nice, add them to your friends list. Start there.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭✭The Cyrodiil vendor is for both PvP and PvE. Granted it's the only way atm for PvPers to get impen undaunted stuff, but well. Hopefully that will change.
However, I can't understand you OP. Are you complaining that you have to go to Cyrodiil home base to visit the vendor? The same homebase you can reach from everywhere of Tamriel by going to campaign selection?
Like.. don't you have bigger problems in game than that? Seriously?Susano'o
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✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.
Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:
It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.
Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.
I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.
As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.
Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.
As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.
Before you troll us more i will just say that there are people that solo the vet dungeons. Yep. Solo. The ones that do not have mechanics preventing that anyway.
So if you have like 4 people unable to do them they are simply not trying hard enough. It is a game after all and like any game you need a bit of skill to do it, they are designed for gamers and not people who see a mouse/controller for the 1st time.
Before you start lying with silly words why not show some video evidence of someone solo vet dungeons? Text is useless. Yeah show me a video of someone successfully and without dying solo a vet dungeons such as vICP, vWGT and vDarkshades.
No video no evidence... it NEVER happen and it's all talk and no action. So prove to me that it can happen... that someone from an elite statue can successfully complete a vet dungeon without so much of dying.
By the way this game (ESO - Elder Scrolls Online) is not suppose to be solo based. It's an Online game that requires team work from your team mates. All of this solo talk crap is just macho talk that smells foul. This game is a Massively multiplayer online role-playing game after all.
People already said WGT and ICP fall under a more difficult category, and cannot be soloed.
As for the rest of the vet dungeons, each and every one can be soloed (provided that there is no mechanics that can prevent that like Gamyne Bandu in Fungal Grotto).
That being said, before WGT and ICP, veteran City of Ash was considered the most difficult dungeon.
Now you can watch it being soloed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQS9g3moHvM
EDIT: as for "long queue times": there are always campaigns with low population. If you did not know, you can assign a Home, and a Guest campaign. I suggest you make a low population campaign your Guest campaign, and go there to buy Monster sets.
Very impressive and thank you for the video, but what kind of gear was this player wearing? Also I notice that the player was a Templar. What about High elf Sorcerer DPS?0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Very impressive and thank you for the video, but what kind of gear was this player wearing? Also I notice that the player was a Templar. What about High elf Sorcerer DPS?
Magicka sorc:
https://youtu.be/nr5mK-x7_8M
Magicka nightblade:
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KenaPKK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@raidentenshu_ESO I acquired perfect trait undaunted gear in all important sets from the dungeons and pledges before the vendor was released.
I've also soloed almost every pledge dungeon, including the entirety of vICP past the flesh sculptor, and am flawless in vma on mageblade and a 2h/bow stamblade.
PvE is easy as ***.
You do your dungeon content because you're a PvEer. You enjoy that. We do PvP and kill each other over and over because we're PvPers. We enjoy that. You get your gear based on rng drops with each run. We get our gear by purchasing impen pieces from our vendor, based on an rng weekly selection.
You get all the helms you want to farm, and an undaunted key per character per day. We get one proper trait undaunted piece per week period.
Tell me more about how ignorant and entitled I am and how righteous and mistreated you are.2 -
KenaPKK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@raidentenshu_ESO feel free to send me a mail or friend request or something. I am bored as hell of pve, but I do my pledges. I'll show you the ropes. Your frustrations are from inexperience. That is easily fixed. Not sure when I'll be back online, but the offer stands.Edited by KenaPKK on July 24, 2016 5:10AM1 -
Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »
You sound incredibly helpless. Just wait for a spot to open if all the campaigns are full, which they never are.Edited by Firerock2 on July 24, 2016 5:23AM1 -
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✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »
yea! anyone with gold or ap.....This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people always use the soloable dungeon excuse, do you realize how small a percentage of the playerbase can pull that stuff off? O_O
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failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Mortehl How is it nonsense?
What is the downside of having a vendor located in pve? Would pvp players suffer in any form or shape from that?
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Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »@Mortehl How is it nonsense?
What is the downside of having a vendor located in pve? Would pvp players suffer in any form or shape from that?
well, here's the thing. you shouldnt have vendors thar allow for anyome to skip content. the pvp helmet vendor is am example od that, and really pushes the envelope toward shrinking the game.
granted the vendor helps out both groups, but one more so than the others.
At this point it's too late to take the vendor out, it's already sold everything at least once. But we need to stop being lazy and asking for shortcut handouts, amd start naggint zos about tw=errible drop tables.
pvpers need to earn there gear ad much as pvers need to go earn their skills, but nobody wants to make it a several week process.
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »Why do people always use the soloable dungeon excuse, do you realize how small a percentage of the playerbase can pull that stuff off? O_O
Of course. And only on specific characters. Just because it's doable on a magblade/magsorc/magplar doesn't mean it is on a magdk.
OP was making an extreme claim, that only a group of "elite" players can beat this sort of content, so a similarly extreme claim--that certain players with certain builds can do it without any group--was the counter-argument. The point isn't that people should go solo it--the point is that if the content is soloable by a tiny few, then it shouldn't be a problem for a group of four average players.Edited by code65536 on July 24, 2016 8:43AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
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- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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Humphie✭✭✭✭✭Ep1kMalware wrote: »failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »@Mortehl How is it nonsense?
What is the downside of having a vendor located in pve? Would pvp players suffer in any form or shape from that?
well, here's the thing. you shouldnt have vendors thar allow for anyome to skip content. the pvp helmet vendor is am example od that, and really pushes the envelope toward shrinking the game.
granted the vendor helps out both groups, but one more so than the others.
At this point it's too late to take the vendor out, it's already sold everything at least once. But we need to stop being lazy and asking for shortcut handouts, amd start naggint zos about tw=errible drop tables.
pvpers need to earn there gear ad much as pvers need to go earn their skills, but nobody wants to make it a several week process.
There is no impen gear I can get by running every stupid dungeon over and over again. And PvP players don't take shortcuts. Most of us have undaunted on max level. So we all done our fair share of pledges and other nonsense. So no serious PvP player is skipping any content.
And besides...you know how many PvE players come into Cyrodiil every weekend and ask about the monster gear vendor? You going to tell them they can't do that because they are skipping content?! Oo1
