How come PvE vendors don't sell Monster Gears?

raidentenshu_ESO · July 2016

So the Pvpers have their monster set vendors.... why not give us PvE players the same vendor that the PvP have? Not all of us desire the long trip to Cyrodiil.

alexkdd99 · July 2016

The long trip to cyrodil? He sells things for gold and ap. It is a pvp and pve vendor

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

You do realize all you have to do is simply enter a campaign and go to the designated spot in your alliance's gate right? You can either pay AP for an Impenetrable trait piece or Gold for an Infused trait piece.

raidentenshu_ESO · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You do realize all you have to do is simply enter a campaign and go to the designated spot in your alliance's gate right? You can either pay AP for an Impenetrable trait piece or Gold for an Infused trait piece.

Yeah if you don't mind waiting for a long time in the queue to enter the campaign.

dem0n1k · July 2016

Go to a low population campaign. All of the campaigns have a vendor.

raidentenshu_ESO · July 2016

dem0n1k wrote: »

Go to a low population campaign. All of the campaigns have a vendor.

All of the campaign are listed as high population right now.

JamieAubrey · July 2016

Because PvE'ers have the option when they do the dungeons

For someone like me that doesn't PvE and only PvPs this is a nice way to spend my AP on otherwise grind out PvE sets

Runs · July 2016

I disagree with your reasoning...

But I agree the vendor should be located outside of Cyrodiil. Being inside just increases the waiting time for people who are actually in Cyrodiil to PVP.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · July 2016

because pve alread y has monster helms...

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Did you think this through at all?

Skinzz · July 2016

So OP is complaining about having to que into cyrodiil to access the vendor.. really lol.

KenaPKK · July 2016

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · July 2016

Wait I have to do something for my gear? Going somewhere? What kind of stupid pvp crap is this. I pressed a button why do I have to move too?

a1i3nz · July 2016

-_-

negbert · July 2016

It's there because that's where you can use AP as a currency.

zuto40 · July 2016

this is why i stick to the pvp forums

DannyLV702 · July 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You do realize all you have to do is simply enter a campaign and go to the designated spot in your alliance's gate right? You can either pay AP for an Impenetrable trait piece or Gold for an Infused trait piece.

Yeah if you don't mind waiting for a long time in the queue to enter the campaign.

Are you telling me that azuras is capped at all times? With a queue of 30+ at the least?

raidentenshu_ESO · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:

This was me trying to find players to do a random NORMAL dungeon. After 3 hours of waiting I ended up having to log off because I was getting tired from excessive boredness of waiting.

Oh and this is what we (PvE players) have to deal with when it comes down to our undaunted pledges

You think it's easy, huh? There is a 20% chance of actually getting something decent. Most of the time you find yourself deconstructing most of your gold pledge prizes because you have no use for it other than to collect whatever comes to after the deconstruction.

DannyLV702 · July 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:

This was me trying to find players to do a random NORMAL dungeon. After 3 hours of waiting I ended up having to log off because I was getting tired from excessive boredness of waiting.

Oh and this is what we (PvE players) have to deal with when it comes down to our undaunted pledges

You think it's easy, huh? There is a 20% chance of actually getting something decent. Most of the time you find yourself deconstructing most of your gold pledge prizes because you have no use for it other than to collect whatever comes to after the deconstruction.

You can prevent all of this by going to the vendor in Cyrodiil. Should take no more than a few minutes.

Mojmir · July 2016

I just read this whole thread and ported from rawlkha to azuras,it's not that hard.

idk · July 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:

It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.

Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.

I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.

As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.

raidentenshu_ESO · July 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:

It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.

Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.

I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.

As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.

Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.

As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.

alexkdd99 · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

While I agree the vendors location is good I would not consider it your vendor or a pvp only vendor. Not sure but I don't think there is anywhere other than cyrodil where you buy things with ap. I would assume this is why the vendor is there abs the fact you can buy with gold and ap with the trait choice being matched with currency use I think it is obvious the vendor is for pve and pvp players.

Waffennacht · July 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

It's a PvP vendor. It's in Cyrodiil because IT IS OUR VENDOR. You have your undaunted pledges and chests and boss drops. God it's complainers like you that convince ZOS to neglect PvP like they've been doing for the entire last year.

Do you honestly believe that getting these monster prizes from the undaunted pledges and boss drops is that easy? You've been spending too much time in Cyrodiil and less time actually doing dungeons and pledges. I will forgive your ignorance since you're not a dungeon player. The fact is that it's EXTREMELY difficult to pass a gold pledge without having access to decent players who knows who they're doing. Unfortunately I don't have that luxury of having that elite list of players, and therefor I am stuck with dealing with randoms through a severely broken group finder:

It does not take an elite list of players to clear a pledge for a gold key. Just a half way decent group of guildies should be able to clear most of the dungeons with the death challenge just fine.

Additionally, the player you forgave his "ignorance" has certainly done his share of pledges. Anyone serious with PvP has leveled up their undaunted for the passives just like most serious about PvE have leveled up their AvA skill lines for access to certain skills.

I would recommend being facilitating a constructive discussion rather than making negative comments about people in the forums.

As far as getting into Cyrodiil, the prime time when campaigns are full is fairly short lived. Keep checking and you will find a time they are not pop locked.

Really? Then how come I could never successfully complete a gold pledge that was arrange to do vICP or vWGT? or even vDarkshade? I refuse to take the blame of being low in DPS because it's nonsense. You MUST have a list of elite players (you even admit it by stating that you must have a good guild with good players) to successfully do these kind of veteran pledges because most of the time it will be unsuccessful.

As for facilitating a constructive discussion.... my original post was no way near hostile like KenaPKK's post was. All that I've asked was to have the same vendor to come to a PvE area so that we Pve players can have the same access without going to Cyrodiil. I don't know why KenaPKK became so hostile and so rude, and felt so possessive over this monster vendor that he felt that it belongs to the PvPers only. Why such greed? Why even care if the vendor enters PvE Territory from time to time? For the life of me I cannot understand why KenaPKK even published such post. It's not like I'm asking for the vendor to be permanently removed from Cryrodiil. All that I'm asking is for the vendor to occasionally enter PvE lands. Why is Kena having kittens over my original post? I assume he had a very bad day yesterday, and took it out on me.

You cannot successfully complete gold pledges because you are apparently relying on others. I know a couple of pet builds that can solo vet dungeons

I welcome you to check out some guides, maybe you'll find something that you can use to stop relying so much on your group.

Edit: stick vendor in Wrothgar or Grahtwood just to troll everyone... I could see that lol

failkiwib16_ESO · July 2016

If they actually placed a vendor in pve areas, it would become a huge goldsink for this game. I know too many players who refuse to enter Cyrodiil at all costs, and base area & siege tutorial included.

btw. OP do you play on NA or EU server?

X3ina · July 2016

Wrothgar would be too much, not everyone have access to it

But Golden selling PvE monster sets in divines would be better solution.

Khaos_Bane · July 2016

Who knows why they stick in in Cyrodiil only. I find it odd that they can't figure out how to put everything on one vendor. Instead they are going to have multiple vendors in Cyrodill to offer more monster sets and pvp sets. @ZoS does some very clunky design sometimes.

pecheckler · July 2016

I'm an advocate for fairness to PvE only players but the only problem I see here is the lengthy queue times required to reach the vendor. I can make 100k gold flipping items faster than I can make 200k alliance points getting farmed by nightblades.

NBrookus · July 2016

Frankly I don't care where they put the vendor; I'm just glad to have it.

OP seems to have 3 major gripes:

Doesn't want to go to Cyrodiil because it takes a while to queue and/or distaste.
Queue for a low pop campaign. Go during non-prime hours like Sunday morning. If you can wait 3 hours in a dungeon queue, Cyro queue at 9am is a piece of cake if it even exists. You never have to set foot anywhere there is actual PVP going on.

RNG Undaunted loot sucks
PVPers agree. Now imagine you had to PVP over and over again to hopefully get your helm. The vendor helps both PVP'ers and PVE'ers. At least people who like dungeons can grind out a helm and get a chance at shoulders with evry pledge; PVPers have to hope the one item they need in impen wins the weekly lotto, because they CAN'T get it at all doing dungeons -- it doesn't drop in impen.

PUGs suck
This is often true. Many PUGs however, do not. If you don't want to be at the mercy of a random dungeon group and the whims of the group finder, start building a network. Start by joining a PVE focused guild. When you run a dungeon with a random who is doing a good job, send a friend request and make a note of their role and what content you did together. Then when you need a 3rd you check your network and see who is on and wants to go. And then they may know a 4th... that now you know and can add to your network. This is how you grow solid teams.

OP, if all of your PUGs suck, it might be time to consider what the common denominator is in all those groups. vICP and vWGT are challenging to PUG, but if you are having trouble on all the gold pledges that's a red flag. Are you sure you are pulling your weight? If you are and know the mechanics, can you explain them clearly to people who don't so you have a better chance of success? If you are a DD, have you considered respeccing to a more in-demand role like tanking or healing?

Tylersoh · July 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You do realize all you have to do is simply enter a campaign and go to the designated spot in your alliance's gate right? You can either pay AP for an Impenetrable trait piece or Gold for an Infused trait piece.

Yeah if you don't mind waiting for a long time in the queue to enter the campaign.

Enter a dead campaign

Voxicity · July 2016

The only thing I can think of is that the OP meant can PvE have access to a merchant that sells sets usually only obtained through PvP (TV stones etc) on sale for gold.

EDIT: just reread the title of the thread and can confirm OP is just a silly goose