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Exploiters getting worse - taking scroll from unflagged keep.

  • OGLezard
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    Watch out @yodased , you might have a plethora of twitch zombies hunting you down and griefing you for having an opinion while they blindly obey an opinion.......

    You might start making a crap ton of ap soon! Heck, you might make enough AP to be emp because of it ;)
  • Taylor_MB
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Grunim wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    Chuga_Rei wrote: »
    LOL @ the time zone on the map.
    Not sure who it was, but this post does a great job of reinforcing the "we dont nightcap or pvpddoor" logic.
    and dont give me the multiple timezones argument, these people purposely avoid conflict lol

    You clearly don't understand how timezones work ...
    rolleyes.gif

    C'mon now, doesn't the entire world set their schedule to the North American Eastern time zone? :trollface:

    They're mad because someone crit rushed a potato sitting on a wall and stole a scroll while they were busy PvDooring the whole map at 5 AM. Don't give me this TZ crap, because there are EU servers.

    What they neglect to mention is that the AD emp was doing the same crap last week to kill defenders because their whole faction apparently forgot how to use siege. It's only "cheating" when a non-AD does it.

    Edit: I'm not defending the scroll thief, it just seems to me that AD cries the hardest, plays the worst, but then uses the same damn exploit. It's ridiculous.

    Look, I don't want to derail my own post, but I've seen you make this accusation in multiple threads, with no one else corroborating your story. AD Emp uses Lotus Fan, that got fixed 1 week after DB launch, from what I've seen it's the only gap closer that cannot jump walls. Admittedly it will occasionally teleport you through a door, but this personally has not happened to me in like 3 weeks (they fixed it? I'm lagging less? I still use ambush when people are approaching doors if they have CC immunity, it's my only snare, but has not happened in a long time (ask Bitaken when it happened, think he has a video)).

    Absolutely no one here is claiming cheating is only not okay when it's someone outside their faction, honestly that is a dumb thing to suggest. If people I trust (not you, sorry) give me names of AD players who are jumping keeps and such, I will absolutely have a chat to them in game, if they persist then I have no problem spreading their name around until gets a video or whatever.

    And yeah, your whole time zone PvDoor claims are ridiculous, DC and EP were both putting up amazing fights all night (my time). When I was online, we pushed DC to ONE gate to get a scroll, DC then retook the keep within the hour (Emp told people not to repair the walls). Everyone else has already addressed your silly rants about time zones (you know the world is bigger than NA and Europe right? You are going to lose your mind when the Japanese players rank out of the non-vet server).

    Again, no one is saying cheating is only bad if outside your faction, the fact that you are the only person suggesting that is kind of interesting...

    Yeah, I'm sure the OP is Japanese.

    あなたは日本語を話せますか

    No? I didn't think so!

    Stop denying it already. Your AD friends go into Elden at 3am herding in three bars of pugs when the other two factions are at one. Your idea of 'well defended' during your faction's usual night capping escapades is ten to one odds against. We do the same thing, let's just be honest about it. The accusation stings worst when it rings somewhat true.

    I can't count how many yellows scale unbroken walls or port through doors. There are usually more of you than everyone else. I spent one night setting death traps at Nickel and luring you guys up into 3 sets of mines and a couple of sorcs with overload. It happens often enough. My point stands, your faction is the first to take offense and cry on the forums.

    I even had a good laugh when one of you AD tossed our scroll into the middle of slaughterfish waters, so we couldn't get it back in time - and then we would have to take your home keep to get it back. I didn't create an OMG! HAX thread. I'm pretty sure I gave kudos.

    You are not making any points... we are both agreeing that exploiting sucks, you are the only one that seems to be faction biased throughout this whole thread. If I see AD exploiting, I'll call them out just the same, if someone I trust tells me AD is exploiting I'll call them out just the same.

    I'm GMT+10, which I'm pretty sure is the same as Japan, can't be more then an hour difference. You even pointed out the time on my screen shots, how are you still making these nonsensical arguments about time zones?
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  • Brightxdawn
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    Nothing new. People do it in BWB and the CP campaigns.
  • Heike
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Imagine my surprise. AD flipping the map at 5:00 AM...

    AD has done it once, at 7am CST, during this campaign, with 5 players - in Australia - who came here from Queens Eyes in Had to check out AZ, and played with Tay, who is already here but also lives in Australia. And they only had to take 2 Keeps.
    Oh yeah... and we were in last place, losing the campaign by 14,000 points.

    Braidas has done this 3 weeks in a row, including THIS morning. He PvE's the map at 4am... after being unable to win battles all night.

    All 3 factions were at 3 bars, with amazing fights all night... and Braidas does THIS? And people in DC respect THIS?

    @bitaken has run the Emp Ring before, but at least he did it at 12 noon. There were other factions at least AWAKE. At least he fought for his title. And he does it fairly.

    Last night, Queens Eyes purposely only took resources around gate keeps, in an instance with a 13 minute timer remaining, for points. And we only did that ONCE. And that was with THREE bars for all factions.

    AD lost a great battle to EP at BRK.
    AD won a great battle at Sejanus against EP.

    And our last fight of the night was at Ales, where we beat DC. It was 15v15. But, it was 1:30am when the flags flipped. We logged off. We have jobs. lol

    All three factions then had equal number of points and properties held.

    And this morning...? Yep, Braidas does it again.

    Am I QQ'ing? Nope. We'll fight for it again today and tonight.

    But, don't call out AD for things that we're not doing. And at least have the balls to call out the people who do this weekly.

    I won't mention his name, but AD had an Emp several weeks ago, that we probably ran out of Cyrodiil, because of his antics and unfair gameplay.

    At least we police our own.


    Edited by Heike on July 11, 2016 3:29PM
    Mihail Heike
    (NA AD CP1800 Templar - DD/Heals)
    Heikers | The Hive Mind | Dead Nirn Dealers | Bowz N The Hood | Tertiary Meat
    "Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi"

    "I will see you, galloping across the green pastures and through the timbers. I will watch, from my shadowy crouch under the rocks at Greenmead, as you race past the dolmen, with thoughts of Altadoon in your head. Yes, I will see you. And your journey will end there..."
    ~Mihail Heike
  • Minalan
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    All night for hours your faction couldn't take the last keep on the ring, and you guys PVDoor it an hour after everyone logs and DC drops to one bar to your three.

    Then after that we took back two or three keeps on the ring before I logged, we still had one bar to your TWO.

    Then Braidas flips the map and AD cries. AD polices their own? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week, literally.

  • Heike
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    Minalan wrote: »
    All night for hours your faction couldn't take the last keep on the ring, and you guys PVDoor it an hour after everyone logs and DC drops to one bar to your three.

    AD only attacked Chalman one time, all night. And there were 2 Keeps in the ring left, at 1:30am, when we logged; and AD only had 1 bar pop. So, I'm assuming you were with Braidas all night. And that's cool.
    Minalan wrote: »
    Then after that we took back two or three keeps on the ring before I logged, we still had one bar to your TWO..."

    Again, AD only had 1 bar at 1:30am. But, that's simantics. So, you took Keeps at 3am? What... were there MASSIVE battles at 3am? LOL
    Minalan wrote: »
    Then Braidas flips the map and AD cries. AD polices their own? That's the funniest thing I've heard all week, literally.

    At least you acknowledge that he constantly does it, including last night.

    And, "literally" ...? As opposed to what... "figuratively?" lol

    You can ask any of your friends, who play on AD toons; our former Emp doesn't even come to Cyrodiil now.

    lol as crazy as it sounds, I think even Bitaken would agree that it's bush league of Braidas to do.

    What comes next here? Another thread about AD zergs? When everyone is at 3 bars? lol. *yawns*

    But, you go ahead and keep justifying PvE'ing the map at 4am. I already said that I'm not whining. We'll just take it back. ;)
    Mihail Heike
    (NA AD CP1800 Templar - DD/Heals)
    Heikers | The Hive Mind | Dead Nirn Dealers | Bowz N The Hood | Tertiary Meat
    "Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi"

    "I will see you, galloping across the green pastures and through the timbers. I will watch, from my shadowy crouch under the rocks at Greenmead, as you race past the dolmen, with thoughts of Altadoon in your head. Yes, I will see you. And your journey will end there..."
    ~Mihail Heike
  • Minalan
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    It was only one AM or so pacific time, and yes - AD had two bars to our one, and a bigger group running. It's not my fault they were mostly potatoes.

    I left though after we got back a handful of our keeps. Whatever the rest did is on them.

    Your yellow tears about night capping are pure gold BTW, we deal with it just about every other night.

    Figuratively? Who are you, Archer? XD
  • svartorn
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    People have been taking scrolls from unflagged keeps for over a year now.

    If ZOS was gonna fix it, they would have.

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  • SubtleHate
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    It's not cheating, why do any of you care if people steal the scroll? It barely matters.
  • SubtleHate
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    Also, this isn't a new thing. People have been doing this since the beginning of time. It's hilarious to take the scroll and watch the pugs freak out.
  • jameslogan
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    Lol @ "AD night cappers".

    Last night, AD got emp at around midnight PST. We all signed off within an hour or two, including the emp. I woke up this morning to see that at 7am PST, DC had emp for over 4 hours.

    So can we just calm down with the night capper whining?
    Edited by jameslogan on July 11, 2016 6:21PM
    Betsy
  • Heike
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    Minalan wrote: »
    AD had two bars to our one, and a bigger group running..."

    "...Your yellow tears about night capping are pure gold BTW, we deal with it just about every night...

    Yep. As expected, another whining session about "The Big Bad AD Zerg."

    Us crying? lol?

    ALL you do is whine about large groups.

    Mihail Heike
    (NA AD CP1800 Templar - DD/Heals)
    Heikers | The Hive Mind | Dead Nirn Dealers | Bowz N The Hood | Tertiary Meat
    "Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi"

    "I will see you, galloping across the green pastures and through the timbers. I will watch, from my shadowy crouch under the rocks at Greenmead, as you race past the dolmen, with thoughts of Altadoon in your head. Yes, I will see you. And your journey will end there..."
    ~Mihail Heike
  • Minalan
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    Heike wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    AD had two bars to our one, and a bigger group running..."

    "...Your yellow tears about night capping are pure gold BTW, we deal with it just about every night...

    Yep. As expected, another whining session about "The Big Bad AD Zerg."

    Us crying? lol?

    ALL you do is whine about large groups.

    My point, that you missed. We didn't PVDoor, we were outnumbered by one bar up until I left at least at 01:00. And it was awesome.

    Can AD say the same?

    Edit: I can't count how many times we've skipped the whole ring just to fight you guys at Faregyl. Fighting AD is fun. I'm (not really) sorry you won't have an emperor Nightblade herding the AD horde today. :trollface: see you on the field!
    Edited by Minalan on July 11, 2016 7:19PM
  • Heike
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Heike wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    AD had two bars to our one, and a bigger group running..."

    "...Your yellow tears about night capping are pure gold BTW, we deal with it just about every night...

    Yep. As expected, another whining session about "The Big Bad AD Zerg."

    Us crying? lol?

    ALL you do is whine about large groups.

    "...we were outnumbered by one bar up until I left at least at 01:00..."

    Everyone that was online yesterday knows that DC could only muster up the strength to take Nickel - in 18 hours of play. But... suddenly... at 3am... DC obtained super human strength, and were able to dominate a force twice their size...? Ahhhh. Yep. That's gotta be it: That "super food." At 3am.

    Let's see if DC can keep the map when all 3 factions are on later...
    Mihail Heike
    (NA AD CP1800 Templar - DD/Heals)
    Heikers | The Hive Mind | Dead Nirn Dealers | Bowz N The Hood | Tertiary Meat
    "Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi"

    "I will see you, galloping across the green pastures and through the timbers. I will watch, from my shadowy crouch under the rocks at Greenmead, as you race past the dolmen, with thoughts of Altadoon in your head. Yes, I will see you. And your journey will end there..."
    ~Mihail Heike
  • Cuyler
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @zos_jessicaFolsom

    They really do believe nothing will happen to them

    highsparrow.jpg

    yodased is coming for you!
    Interesting how a forum soul shriven got just as many agrees, insightfuls and awesomes for exposing an exploit as you with your 20,000 twitch fans and this post.
    Edited by Cuyler on July 11, 2016 7:59PM
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  • bitaken
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    Heike wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Imagine my surprise. AD flipping the map at 5:00 AM...



    AD lost a great battle to EP at BRK.
    AD won a great battle at Sejanus against EP.


    They were fun fights. EHJ was working on some new tactics at Sejanus - some worked - some didn't - but in the end we lost the battle and still killed a ton of people. There were our 10 and maybe another 10 EP there. There were over 30 AD there - confirmed by AD that there was closer to 40 than 30. Those same groups hit BRK and got rocked - but it was fun

    /tiphat

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  • jameslogan
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    The problem the OP stated still remains. ZOS, please fix your freaking game.
    Betsy
  • FENGRUSH
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @zos_jessicaFolsom

    They really do believe nothing will happen to them

    highsparrow.jpg

    yodased is coming for you!
    Interesting how a forum soul shriven got just as many agrees, insightfuls and awesomes for exposing an exploit as you with your 20,000 twitch fans and this post.

    Is it? What's that prove?? That there's no correlation between the forums and twitch followers? Sounds like thats the case.. very interesting.

    Also I have +1 more so looks like your observation has been voided!
  • Ghost-Shot
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Cuyler wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @zos_jessicaFolsom

    They really do believe nothing will happen to them

    highsparrow.jpg

    yodased is coming for you!
    Interesting how a forum soul shriven got just as many agrees, insightfuls and awesomes for exposing an exploit as you with your 20,000 twitch fans and this post.

    Is it? What's that prove?? That there's no correlation between the forums and twitch followers? Sounds like thats the case.. very interesting.

    Also I have +1 more so looks like your observation has been voided!

    REKT
  • Chuga_Rei
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    Heike wrote: »

    Let's see if DC can keep the map when all 3 factions are on later...

    lol
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  • Heike
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    Chuga_Rei wrote: »
    Heike wrote: »

    Let's see if DC can keep the map when all 3 factions are on later...

    lol

    What's funnier? DC ganking two keeps, or you flexing your pixel muscles to 13 year old boys...

    LOL
    Mihail Heike
    (NA AD CP1800 Templar - DD/Heals)
    Heikers | The Hive Mind | Dead Nirn Dealers | Bowz N The Hood | Tertiary Meat
    "Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi"

    "I will see you, galloping across the green pastures and through the timbers. I will watch, from my shadowy crouch under the rocks at Greenmead, as you race past the dolmen, with thoughts of Altadoon in your head. Yes, I will see you. And your journey will end there..."
    ~Mihail Heike
  • Minalan
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    Heike wrote: »
    Chuga_Rei wrote: »
    Heike wrote: »

    Let's see if DC can keep the map when all 3 factions are on later...

    lol

    What's funnier? DC ganking two keeps, or you flexing your pixel muscles to 13 year old boys...

    LOL

    Alright, that was pretty funny. Hahahahaha
  • Chuga_Rei
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    Heike wrote: »
    What's funnier? DC ganking two keeps, or you flexing your pixel muscles to 13 year old boys...

    LOL

    Probably the flexing part to be sure. Though the ganking is hilarious.
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