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Woeler wrote: »

I was stealing stuff and an NPC called me a "son of a dog". I mean, really? How old are we? Five? What's with this fear to use some vulgar language that fits the scene?

If I caught someone stealing my stuff, the last thing I would call them is a "son of a dog"...

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Well, the only time I remember having heard an NPC tell me "son of a dog", said NPC was a Khajiit. (I may be wrong though.)

Lorewise, this insult seems to be okay for me, considering the sale talk delivered by the Khajiit merchant in Mistral.

That said, I am all for more diverse, lore-friendly insults, as I have seen some in this thread. :-)

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

Whenever i destroy a Nord in pvp as a Nord(Playing a Nord char) i always call them " YOU DAMN MILKDRINKER ".

Thing is after i do that sometimes i get killed in group

A question tho,

The game is rated Mature 17+ but i have not seen a single sexual Theme or Gore(Saw a little blood)... I dont understand why is that.

I would have thought you'd say something like 'See you in Sovngarde Milk-drinker!' after all if you killed them in battle...

Genomic wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

It's because the western world is pretty sensitive & easily offended, so we can't even have bad language and such in mature games these days. Look what happened to one of Tracer's poses in Overwatch, for example. It was "too sexualized...."

I agree. It's so strange to me how weirdly puritanical millennials are. And disturbing how they seem to be on a crusade against 'offensiveness' and are pushing, and often succeeding, in turning the world beige.

liberal mindset today and being a liberal offers nothing but stagnation and no progress, im 28 seen alot more 1-6 than most have, been through the war my safe space was behind my M4. I HATE MY GENERATION.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I dun care abt topic anymoar... I wanna play witcher 3 soon Q.Q

Triss = stereotype of cute-girl-next-door, with a pretty basic and avarage personality.
Yen = strong and charismatic personality, independant and mature.

I think they're both attractive in their own way, but I'll always lean more toward Yen simply because I think Triss is more common and less interesting.
...then there is also all the history between Yen & Geralt, which I can't make myself ignore.

The Witcher 3 is one of the most amazing games I've played, along with: Skyrim, Fallout 4, and GTA:5/GTA:O. Trust me, it's worth the QQ craving it. It's one of those games that you literally become attached to, and have a very hard time putting down. Some can say the same about ESO, but after a while... Even ESO gets dull. Witcher 3? Not so much. Lol. It's a game that I have to force myself to stop playing, or else I begin neglecting things of higher priority.

I saw my boyfriend play it, and he let me watch the sequences so I could watch it as a fragmented movie basically. I never played Witcher2 because it was not an open world game, but I think as soon as I get a new laptop I will play Witcher 3. It's simply too good to not play.

I am not much for Fallout 4 and GTA games, I've seen my boyfriend play it and I enjoy the stories and sequences, but I don't want to play them... I suspect it is because I enjoy the fantasy worlds of dwarves and dragons too much, but againt it doesn't make much sense since my other favorite games are different.

Prototype, Saints Row 4, Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell, Just Cause 2, Epic Battle Fantasy 4 (very cute flash game)...

starkerealm wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

All the more reason we need a zombie apocalypse to get rid of these mewling milksops before they turn our entire society into diaper-wearing, politically correct weaklings.

At least have the apocalypse wait until I can get a real Katana so I can defend myself properly, Swords don't run out of bullets

But... why would you want a Katana when you could get a sword that wasn't complete and utter garbage?

Katanas are lighter and made for fighting people without modern/midevil protection and can be more effective than other weapons against zombies which more than likely will only be in civilian clothes or less... provided it is a good one of course most of them are most likely rubbish knock offs

edit plus in a fight against a zombie I don't have to block another blade

You need cussing to enjoy your game? I feel sorry for you. Not everyone feels the same way

Plenty of swearing through out the players themselves, so I don't mind the NPCs being PG rated at all. The players make up for that for sure.

And you're stealing in ESO? What are you, five?

rootimus wrote: »

VizigothAlaric wrote: »

thats why pve in this game is *** boring

While I agree that it's ridiculous to dumb down an insult like "son of a ***", particularly when words like "***" get used, it's hardly the reason that PvE in this game is so utterly boring.

Gidorick wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

It's because the western world is pretty sensitive & easily offended, so we can't even have bad language and such in mature games these days. Look what happened to one of Tracer's poses in Overwatch, for example. It was "too sexualized...."

You don't have to look outside of ESO to see those kinds of changes @Molag_Crow ...

Of course, ZOS claims that these changes were made because the original designs weren't meant to ever be in ESO.

Those original designs, along with other, even skimpier designs in other games, are aimed at kids (in age and / or maturity). They're a sad indictment on society that standards have slipped so far that even kids TV shows have sexual content in them.

I'm a grown man and I like skimpy outfits and cleavage. I'm not a prude though and I don't care if I am called a pervert.

Bookwyrm wrote: »

Psh.

N'wahs.

Tell me about is. The s'wits are getting out of hand!

Woeler wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

You need cussing to enjoy your game? I feel sorry for you. Not everyone feels the same way

I'd advise you to take a course in both reading and writing. That would help a lot with the whole you interpreting this topic completely wrong and making up things in the OP- thing. You clearly don't understand that this topic is not about "needing swearing" (which is a ridiculous statement you made up to increase your postcount I guess). It's about the fact that you can murder people in this game, yet there seems to be this politically correct fear of showing an inch of a boob or an npc saying "f*ck". That is what is being discussed here, but of course, I don't expect everybody to posses the capabilities to understand.

Simmer down buddy. I'll tell you what, take some anger management classes and I'll go take a 6th grade reading course to be on par with you.

Sound good?

Eshelmen wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

You need cussing to enjoy your game? I feel sorry for you. Not everyone feels the same way

I'd advise you to take a course in both reading and writing. That would help a lot with the whole you interpreting this topic completely wrong and making up things in the OP- thing. You clearly don't understand that this topic is not about "needing swearing" (which is a ridiculous statement you made up to increase your postcount I guess). It's about the fact that you can murder people in this game, yet there seems to be this politically correct fear of showing an inch of a boob or an npc saying "f*ck". That is what is being discussed here, but of course, I don't expect everybody to posses the capabilities to understand.

Simmer down buddy. I'll tell you what, take some anger management classes and I'll go take a 6th grade reading course to be on par with you.

Sound good?

It's a way of mocking, and no.

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Recently we've noticed this thread has become quite off topic. For continuation of this discussion please be sure to remain constructive to the topic at hand, and please be sure to avoid bypassing the profanity filter to avoid breaking the Forum Rules.

Thank you for understanding.

Yeah, sorry, was trying to give examples -.- my bad

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

Whenever i destroy a Nord in pvp as a Nord(Playing a Nord char) i always call them " YOU DAMN MILKDRINKER ".

Thing is after i do that sometimes i get killed in group

A question tho,

The game is rated Mature 17+ but i have not seen a single sexual Theme or Gore(Saw a little blood)... I dont understand why is that.

I would have thought you'd say something like 'See you in Sovngarde Milk-drinker!' after all if you killed them in battle...

Well its a common fact that Milk-drinkers! are not allowed in Sovngarde

It makes sense. NPC's that are fighting call each other dogs at times so this isn't any different. It's completely in line with how some of them speak.

In their world, it IS offensive. Mission accomplished, insult has been delivered.

If you can't understand that to the NPCs this is insulting and offensive, you haven't been paying attention.

@TheShadowScout

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Katanas are lighter

Actually, they're not. Katanas weigh in at roughly 4 to 5 lbs, as I recall. Which puts them at exactly the same weight as a European longsword.

Even something like a zweihander or claymore would rarely get over ten lbs. There are exceptions to this, mostly with parade swords, but actual combat blades are all pretty light.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

...provided it is a good one of course most of them are most likely rubbish knock offs

Actually, one of the hilarious things with the katana is that they are a "rubbish knockoff" of a Chinese design. Traditionally forged ones are quite fragile.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Katanas are lighter and made for fighting people without modern/midevil protection and can be more effective than other weapons against zombies which more than likely will only be in civilian clothes or less... provided it is a good one of course most of them are most likely rubbish knock offs

edit plus in a fight against a zombie I don't have to block another blade

Hmmm... actually from what I remember about the matter of blades, taditionally made katanas really were pretty fragile. As in, known to shatter against bone if you don't manage an perfect cut... at least the ones forged back in medieval times, metallurgy advanced a bit since those times after all.

As a quick nitpick, the katana is, technically, an early modern sword. There are no medieval katanas. The design we think of only dates back to the late 14th or early 15th century. (Depending on how you're counting, the transition from medieval to early modern is somewhere in the mid 14th century.) There are proto-katanas that predate that, but they're not really the same weapon.

Also, while metallurgy has advanced, the katana is a weapon of tradition. Meaning that a "properly forged" one doesn't benefit from modern technology.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Mostly because the iron they started with was pretty much stuff an european smith would be laughed out of the forge trying to make weapons with... all that folding? A neccessity to even get to halfway decent blades with the stuff they had...

The word you're looking for is pig iron. This is stuff you'd use to make cookware, farming implements, building materials. It's absolutely not weapons grade, though.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

No surprise when one remembers that samurai originally were not swordsmen, but master archers!

This isn't quite right. The samurai were, like European knights, combat generalists. They were trained in a multitude of weapons, and combat styles. They weren't expected to excel at any of them. This does include archery, and sword play, and unarmed combat, and spears, and you get the idea.

Now, there were Samurai who specialized. As in, individuals who said, "I want to focus on that part over there." So there were some master archers, some master swordsmen, and so on. But, like you said, the idea that they were all peerless duelists never happened.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Only when european firearms stole their thunder so to speak, they needed something to salve their egos to compensate for their, uhm, lost battlefield potence, and thus the myth of the magical katana was born!

This is also slightly off. The history of the gun in Japan is actually pretty interesting stuff. The Japanese got their hands on Portuguese firearms in the mid-sixteenth century, and proceeded to refine the technology. As you said, the introduction of firearms threw a wrench into Japanese concepts of warfare.

With most of the world, the introduction of firearms to warfare meant it was something that had to be accounted for. You couldn't simply ignore guns, because your neighbors would still be using theirs in conflicts against you. But, this didn't happen with Japan. Because of the insular nature of Japanese warfare, and a unified Imperial authority, the Japanese nobility effectively legislated guns out of existence. This came back to bite them later, but at the time, it allowed them to shy away from a situation where a peasant could kill a samurai.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

(not that european legends didn't also have a lot of "magical" swords with pretty wild capabilities attributed to them, from cleaving through a man in full plate armor in one blow to change their color a dozend times a day...)

This one... isn't actually true. Off hand Excalibur, Joyeuse, Curtana, and Durandal all come to mind. The difference is that in European myth, magical weapons are singular artifacts. There's one Excalibur, It's not that every longsword is an icon of Excalibur.

With the katana, the weapon references the potential mythical weapon, without actually being that weapon. So when you hear something like "a true katana can cut through the ribbon twenty-seven times before it falls," that's not something a real sword could do, it's an affirmation of the mythical blade.

In turn, the katana is one of the holy symbols of Shinto, so you can see where this whole thing loops around into some downright strange territory... It's not a myth in the sense of "oh, yeah, these are cool," but it's actually closer to an affirmation of faith.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

If you want to talk real high quality blades that came as close as you could to legends of "magical swords" in their time, you might like to look at damascus steel...

For the zombie apocalypse I have to say though, a durable weapon that does not fail you in a pinch would be a pretty good idea. So... more fire axe and less katana. Sledgehammer might be a bit too tiring to use unless you have a good deal of muscle. Personally I would really consider the katana in my replica collection last, and grab the cutlass or viking axe instead...

Honestly, my first choice would actually be that blunt longsword I've got kicking around. It's kinda garbage, but stupidly sturdy. The Type 98 Shin Gunto? No. The grip just isn't conducive to prolonged use.

I'm not 5, but I also don't think hearing or saying a bunch of swear words makes me "all grown up" either. I am fine with the in game language spoken by NPCs. I don't pay a monthly sub to be sworn at or insulted in words I would likely hear from a drunken sailor... I'm personally grateful for the in game language filter. I really don't what to know the vile things half the people in zone chat say on a regular basis.