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Congrats to Sabre Ali!!
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Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Rofl @ NA drama.
Mythical didn't allow shieldbreaker, no malubeths on classes with major mending, no cp/skill changes and it ran as smooth as possible with no complaints after only 2 weekends ago or whenever their tournament was held (Only time skill changes were allowed was in Shey vs Malcolm Sorc vs Sorc semi finals, where Dusk made them fight without shields because the fight was never going to end otherwise).
Meanwhile I'm hearing the winner of this tournament won based off a cheese item set and changes CP/skills based on who he fights? Sick. Not surprised about the outcome of the tournament or the arguing lol.
NA dueling guilds should probably take a page from Mythicals book, and I'm not saying that just because I'm from EU, it would just cause a lot less drama and more accurate results instead of the winner unsurprisingly wearing shieldbreaker.
Grats to Sabre anyway, I know you're considered a top dueler so well played.
Simple rules, sexy gameplay.
Quick question: Do you guys over there even eat popcorn to fully enjoy our NA drama? Lol
We do. Especially with all the delicious salt here.
Pretty sure most of NA enjoys the EU drama of LegMage vs Everyone else.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »Sabre is an excellent dueler, however, he completely changes his gear and all his champion points depending who he is going against to completely counter them.
Which is why I don't participate in duels and I'm praying Zenimax puts in an official system for structured PvP.
Until then it's in a terrible state.
What's wrong with him changing his gear and CP to counter someone? Who wouldn't go into something competitive and think about their opponent how they play and how you are going to counter them? Everything ever that puts two people against each other is based on this system. moves and counter moves, whether that means changing your gear, skills, CP or reacting to a move that they just made. If anything Sabre Ali being able to shut people down before even beginning the fight by changing his build makes him a better player than someone who sticks with the same build no matter the opponent. Structured PVP wouldn't change people from countering...
You are dead wrong.
In every competitive sport on the planet you have to declare your "gear" before every tournament or match. If you change your gear -- you are disqualified. See the rules for golf, tennis, soccer, football, basketball, cycling, racing, etc. There is a huge amount of strategy involved in selected your toolkit or "gear" -- the rest is skill.
An example: in golf you are allowed a select number of clubs. If you are found with more (or less!) anytime during the tournament you are immediately disqualified.
Which is why, for a similar competitive type of play, I don't understand why duels are ever held in CP campaigns.
It's an easy check to insure that no one swaps or artificially inflates their gameplay via CP.
And I see no issue with gear swap. But it should be before each match and general rules by all parties on which sets should not be used.
Because the game is balanced for CP.
You can´t win against shieldbreaker on a sorc on no CP because it does a fixed dmg value that is balanced for CP crit/dmg/heal and stats.
I´ve demolished really good sorcs on non CP by simply spamming bow light because there is no way to outheal that kind of dmg.
No CP is only treating symptoms while creating other problems.
No excuse tbh. Within the context of duels, the proper tournament would require you adhere to a strict gear palatte to encourage fair play. And If people abuse CP to push advantage per fight, then it makes sense to embrace non-cp while pushing for better balance.
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RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think many of you are missing the point @Sypher is trying to make about dueling.
The point is right now the only meta IS BURST.
the Champion System has taken min-max to the extreme because the CP system allows you to literally create toons and specs that have no weaknesses as you can cover up all your characters short comings with CP to the point it turns dueling into nothing more then a game of burst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yldOZyVvo3Y
Listen to what they are trying to tell you, stop making @sypher out to be the bad guy...he just wants a systme of dueling how it used to be where you couldn't min-max to the extreme and have no weaknesses in your build and the CP system is the main cause of this.
I honestly would love to see the next Legend tournament be on the no CP camapign, im no dueler, but i'd love to watch it...now that would be pretty awesome though, it would change the dynamics alot i think...would be cool to see how it would go.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak7 -
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✭✭I think trade guilds should announce their weekly lottery winners in threads similar to this one.
Serve about as much purpose as this thread serves.2 -
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✭✭✭Well done Sabre.
For what it's worth, he runs the exact same build in open world PvP and it's just as effective in small/large groups as it is in duelling. It's not something he put together specifically to win the tournament with. He is also hands down the best stamina NB NA in my opinion. A great player with a great build, all that really needs to be said here.5 -
RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'll never question Sabre skill, he quite literally one of the last of the DC old guard...he is the only DC emp of Wabbajack that still plays.
Did you know Sabre was last ever DC emp of Wabbajack? He was proceeded by Johnny Hammersticks and Whispers with Ravens.
I don't know nothing about how he builds for duels and don't care, Sabre knows I will and have always held him in the highest regard he got and held emp when emp really really mattered big time.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak2 -
Lisbette✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »I'll never question Sabre skill, he quite literally one of the last of the DC old guard...he is the only DC emp of Wabbajack that still plays.
Did you know Sabre was last ever DC emp of Wabbajack? He was proceeded by Johnny Hammersticks and Whispers with Ravens.
I don't know nothing about how he builds for duels and don't care, Sabre knows I will and have always held him in the highest regard he got and held emp when emp really really mattered big time.
^This.
Wabbajack was the most competitive server in ESO at the time, I can think of at least 10 DC guilds that were highly skilled and competitive. I can't even imagine how many more guilds were active on AD and EP.
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Lyar09✭✭✭✭✭Grats Sabre.
In some more relevant news. I saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GiecoPC/NA | twitch.tv/ohhlyar | youtube.com/lyaryt7 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭This thread is getting even more entertaining but at the same time I'm losing brain cells reading people defending Sabre for using shield breaker because he runs it open world. There's a reason it's banned in duels in EU and SHOULD be banned in duels in NA. Was malubeths even banned on classes with major mending? Looks like there were no rules to this and it looks like it was a mess.5
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »Sabre is an excellent dueler, however, he completely changes his gear and all his champion points depending who he is going against to completely counter them.
Which is why I don't participate in duels and I'm praying Zenimax puts in an official system for structured PvP.
Until then it's in a terrible state.
What's wrong with him changing his gear and CP to counter someone? Who wouldn't go into something competitive and think about their opponent how they play and how you are going to counter them? Everything ever that puts two people against each other is based on this system. moves and counter moves, whether that means changing your gear, skills, CP or reacting to a move that they just made. If anything Sabre Ali being able to shut people down before even beginning the fight by changing his build makes him a better player than someone who sticks with the same build no matter the opponent. Structured PVP wouldn't change people from countering...
You are dead wrong.
In every competitive sport on the planet you have to declare your "gear" before every tournament or match. If you change your gear -- you are disqualified. See the rules for golf, tennis, soccer, football, basketball, cycling, racing, etc. There is a huge amount of strategy involved in selected your toolkit or "gear" -- the rest is skill.
An example: in golf you are allowed a select number of clubs. If you are found with more (or less!) anytime during the tournament you are immediately disqualified.
Which is why, for a similar competitive type of play, I don't understand why duels are ever held in CP campaigns.
It's an easy check to insure that no one swaps or artificially inflates their gameplay via CP.
And I see no issue with gear swap. But it should be before each match and general rules by all parties on which sets should not be used.
Because the game is balanced for CP.
You can´t win against shieldbreaker on a sorc on no CP because it does a fixed dmg value that is balanced for CP crit/dmg/heal and stats.
I´ve demolished really good sorcs on non CP by simply spamming bow light because there is no way to outheal that kind of dmg.
No CP is only treating symptoms while creating other problems.
No excuse tbh. Within the context of duels, the proper tournament would require you adhere to a strict gear palatte to encourage fair play. And If people abuse CP to push advantage per fight, then it makes sense to embrace non-cp while pushing for better balance.
I don´t know. Maybe it´s because i find the non CP campaign entirely boring.
Having a redguard stamNB the only difference between nonCP and CP on that character is lower dmg. My regen is the same and absolutely not finite (which is a main gripe in CP).
Now while on CP it´s already hard to kill people because of how durable they have become i´ve come to find this to be a far worse issue on non CP.
HP to DMG ratios are even worse than on normal servers there and with going out of resources being nothing but a dream (because it´s not happening on anyone who put thought into their build and has the right race) - i simply can´t see a reason to play there over normal campaigns.
Not for normal PvP and not for Duels.<Noricum>
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Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »I'll never question Sabre skill, he quite literally one of the last of the DC old guard...he is the only DC emp of Wabbajack that still plays.
Did you know Sabre was last ever DC emp of Wabbajack? He was proceeded by Johnny Hammersticks and Whispers with Ravens.
I don't know nothing about how he builds for duels and don't care, Sabre knows I will and have always held him in the highest regard he got and held emp when emp really really mattered big time.
Preceded or proceeded? I thought Whispers With Ravens was the first ever DC emperor?1 -
PosternHouse✭✭✭✭An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)3 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Rofl @ NA drama.
Mythical didn't allow shieldbreaker, no malubeths on classes with major mending, no cp/skill changes and it ran as smooth as possible with no complaints after only 2 weekends ago or whenever their tournament was held (Only time skill changes were allowed was in Shey vs Malcolm Sorc vs Sorc semi finals, where Dusk made them fight without shields because the fight was never going to end otherwise).
Meanwhile I'm hearing the winner of this tournament won based off a cheese item set and changes CP/skills based on who he fights? Sick. Not surprised about the outcome of the tournament or the arguing lol.
NA dueling guilds should probably take a page from Mythicals book, and I'm not saying that just because I'm from EU, it would just cause a lot less drama and more accurate results instead of the winner unsurprisingly wearing shieldbreaker.
Grats to Sabre anyway, I know you're considered a top dueler so well played.
Simple rules, sexy gameplay.
Quick question: Do you guys over there even eat popcorn to fully enjoy our NA drama? Lol
Of course we do. Salty popcorn
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✭✭✭✭This thread needs some nerf RD to make it complete.Daggerfall Covenant
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Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »
I know you are mad because you're no longer relevant Sypher.
Yeah, seriously @Sypher . So irrelevant.Edited by Jules on May 23, 2016 6:49PM3 -
Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »
I know you are mad because you're no longer relevant Sypher.
Yeah, seriously @Sypher . So irrelevant.
We all know you want to date him.
hahahah Scipio strikes yet again!Edited by Publius_Scipio on May 23, 2016 6:58PM23 -
Serenityx✭✭✭Love how the first comment or so is instantly whining to nerf stam builds. We got a huge nerf with TG while magicka got some huge buffs. What exactly is it that needs (more) nerfing as far as stamina is concerned...3
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Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »
I know you are mad because you're no longer relevant Sypher.
Yeah, seriously @Sypher . So irrelevant.
We all know you want to date him.
hahahah Scipio strikes yet again!
My heart belongs to another.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »SleepyTroll wrote: »
I know you are mad because you're no longer relevant Sypher.
Yeah, seriously @Sypher . So irrelevant.
We all know you want to date him.
hahahah Scipio strikes yet again!
My heart belongs to another.
You know nothing, Jules!Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »I'll never question Sabre skill, he quite literally one of the last of the DC old guard...he is the only DC emp of Wabbajack that still plays.
Did you know Sabre was last ever DC emp of Wabbajack? He was proceeded by Johnny Hammersticks and Whispers with Ravens.
I don't know nothing about how he builds for duels and don't care, Sabre knows I will and have always held him in the highest regard he got and held emp when emp really really mattered big time.
Preceded or proceeded? I thought Whispers With Ravens was the first ever DC emperor?
It was supposed to be "preceded" since Whispers came first, followed by Johnny, and Sabre being the last, but as always this dumb IPhone's stupid auto-correct is wrong 90% of the time, and it changed my spelling of the word. Sorry Pubes!Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak1 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »Sabre is an excellent dueler, however, he completely changes his gear and all his champion points depending who he is going against to completely counter them.
Which is why I don't participate in duels and I'm praying Zenimax puts in an official system for structured PvP.
Until then it's in a terrible state.
What's wrong with him changing his gear and CP to counter someone? Who wouldn't go into something competitive and think about their opponent how they play and how you are going to counter them? Everything ever that puts two people against each other is based on this system. moves and counter moves, whether that means changing your gear, skills, CP or reacting to a move that they just made. If anything Sabre Ali being able to shut people down before even beginning the fight by changing his build makes him a better player than someone who sticks with the same build no matter the opponent. Structured PVP wouldn't change people from countering...
You are dead wrong.
In every competitive sport on the planet you have to declare your "gear" before every tournament or match. If you change your gear -- you are disqualified. See the rules for golf, tennis, soccer, football, basketball, cycling, racing, etc. There is a huge amount of strategy involved in selected your toolkit or "gear" -- the rest is skill.
An example: in golf you are allowed a select number of clubs. If you are found with more (or less!) anytime during the tournament you are immediately disqualified.
Which is why, for a similar competitive type of play, I don't understand why duels are ever held in CP campaigns.
It's an easy check to insure that no one swaps or artificially inflates their gameplay via CP.
And I see no issue with gear swap. But it should be before each match and general rules by all parties on which sets should not be used.
Because to duel without CP... changes your entire dueling set up. you'd need to either go full burst and pray you nuke them down. OR spec into regen. Basically we'd have to spend 750k or so to theory craft ourselves a specific set just to duel in a cp less campaign.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.
On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!Edited by Publius_Scipio on May 23, 2016 7:38PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
There are no right answers. It's all about enjoyable gameplay which is entirely subjective. Therefore groups of like-minded players who play sub-games in a vacuum (duels, GvG, etc) develop rules that put an emphasis on the most-enjoyed elements of gameplay and limit elements considered tedious or negative in some way.
IMO, most players don't want combat in ESO to be a CP chess match in which the focal point of the gameplay is tailoring CP allocation to each individual opponent. To me, that is very tedious. I enjoy theorycrafting and developing builds suited for a variety of circumstances, but I don't want that to be part of active gameplay as something I may do multiple times during a play session.0 -
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✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
There are no right answers. It's all about enjoyable gameplay which is entirely subjective. Therefore groups of like-minded players who play sub-games in a vacuum (duels, GvG, etc) develop rules that put an emphasis on the most-enjoyed elements of gameplay and limit elements considered tedious or negative in some way.
IMO, most players don't want combat in ESO to be a CP chess match in which the focal point of the gameplay is tailoring CP allocation to each individual opponent. To me, that is very tedious. I enjoy theorycrafting and developing builds suited for a variety of circumstances, but I don't want that to be part of active gameplay as something I may do multiple times during a play session.
To this day I still believe ESO was never meant to be that by design. I believe it is supposed to be one large scale brawl and players only have six skills per active bar to choose from.0 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.
On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!
There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.
1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting
unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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✭✭If a player wanna duel with no cps, gear or abilities changes then so be it. Each his own. I'm actually looking forward into that kind of duels. I run an openworld build and I only change my skills if I'm going into an aoe fight (around keeps or when fighting large groups). Otherwise I use the same setup no matter if i'm fighting a shield stacker, a glass cannon stamblade or a trollplar. I think it is how it should be in duels.Frozn - Stamdk - AR50
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
The difference being that fighters can't train in such a way as to make the other guys punches hurt less, or so that their punches always land. There is a difference in that ESO dueling is more rock - paper - scissors than a straight up fight. A magic sorc is going to lose almost all the time against shieldbreaker etc... It isn't a great analogy. A boxer doesn't suddenly get a whole new skill set and a whole new fighting style and a whole new level of strength and speed to counter his opponent. He can't suddenly take punches that would have knocked him out before. He is still the same boxer, but he will use a different strategy. To compare it to changing skills and CP is like saying that a boxer morphs into a completely different person depending who he is fighting which is obviously not the case.PC/EU DC0 -
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✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.
On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!
There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.
1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting
unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.
For me, that's neither here nor there. And still one needs evidence that Sabre in fact changed things around.
What I see as the only path forward to save Legend is to appointment FENGRUSH as Lord Commander.0 -
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✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?
It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)
The difference being that fighters can't train in such a way as to make the other guys punches hurt less, or so that their punches always land. There is a difference in that ESO dueling is more rock - paper - scissors than a straight up fight. A magic sorc is going to lose almost all the time against shieldbreaker etc... It isn't a great analogy. A boxer doesn't suddenly get a whole new skill set and a whole new fighting style and a whole new level of strength and speed to counter his opponent. He can't suddenly take punches that would have knocked him out before. He is still the same boxer, but he will use a different strategy. To compare it to changing skills and CP is like saying that a boxer morphs into a completely different person depending who he is fighting which is obviously not the case.
Do you watch UFC? Great strikers go up against jiu jitsu practitioners and spend training camp training wrestling and jiu jitsu. Then the fight happens and you hear Joe Rogan yelling about how the striker "looks like a completely different fighter", took the jiu jitsu guy to the ground and submitted him.
Your post isn't wrong per se. I'm not saying that. But I have seen many times fighters become different fighters in different fights.0
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