Congrats to Sabre Ali!!

Xsorus

I personally never went to dueling tournaments in any of the games I played; I still pretty much ran around solo in UO, Daoc, war, rift, gw2 and ESO and to some extend swtor. DAOC was always more interesting when doing 1v1 and people honestly had more respect for them in that game then this one.. But the main reason I didn't do any tournaments was artificial rules placed in them. I always felt this made things a known quantity instead of having to change my play style on the fly to counter virtually any setup. When I lost a fight I usually tried to adjust my build to counter that specific outcome but had to weigh it against losing something else.

I enjoyed that more then anything else.

That's not to say I don't get why for example Sypher is setting up his new tournament guild that way.
Just was never my cup of tea

KisoValley

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Shield breaker is a legit set, as legit as camping mines and spamming shields. A sorc who cannot defend himself vs shield breaker in a 1v1 doesn`t deserve any tournament win imo. It is close to impossible to kill a top level sorc when not running shield breaker as a balanced stam build (not min/maxing damage, i.e. offensive heavy setups)

EU dueling rules are onesided as hell and ignore some of the strongest offender (vmsa wpns, axes in particular) to meaningful outcomes. I mean, how can weapons that auto-apply bleeds which potentially make up 50%+ of the death recap be allowed but not shield breaker?

@Mojomonkeyman Clearly you didn't watch Mythicals tournament lol. There's a reason it was a lot less controversial than this and had a clear winner in the end without cheese tactics, changing cp, changing gear and changing skills etc. lol

e: Btw, it's funny how only 2 sorcs got to the semis of the EU tournament when no one was using SB. The rest of the sorcs lost their duels, and some of them are "top level sorcs" as you put it, not just randoms who entered for the sake of entering. In the finals, most people though the Stamplar was winning until his mistake cost him the duel vs Shey. It sounds to me NA has a problem of their stam players not being able to beat a sorc without SB, or their sorcs are just a class above all the stam players.

I think changing cp/gear/skills is more of a issue than a cheese set anyway. Not sure how this thread became all about SB. If Yoyuyi is saying he and Chief noticed that Sabre was changing stuff between duels then that is a big problem because it shouldn't be allowed.

Btw have I said I love NA drama?

KisoValley

Derra wrote: »

NativeJoe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?

It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)

This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.

On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!

There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.

1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting

unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.

No lightning staves wat?
That´s something i´ve heared for the very first time.

@Derra Lightning staves desync health. All the sorcs in EU used Inferno staff for this reason.

Derra

KisoValley wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

NativeJoe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?

It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)

This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.

On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!

There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.

1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting

unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.

No lightning staves wat?
That´s something i´ve heared for the very first time.

@Derra Lightning staves desync health. All the sorcs in EU used Inferno staff for this reason.

Hm. The more you know. I thought most use inferno staff for burst reasons as you basically need one to kill other sorcs.

Haven´t used a lightning one (nor seen one used) in ages sadly.

KisoValley

Derra wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

NativeJoe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?

It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)

This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.

On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!

There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.

1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting

unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.

No lightning staves wat?
That´s something i´ve heared for the very first time.

@Derra Lightning staves desync health. All the sorcs in EU used Inferno staff for this reason.

Hm. The more you know. I thought most use inferno staff for burst reasons as you basically need one to kill other sorcs.

Haven´t used a lightning one (nor seen one used) in ages sadly.

They're used by quite a few EU sorcs I've seen in open world. Think I've seen a few sorcs use them in unofficial duels as well, the duels that are held like 3-4x a day. But in the tournament just gone, they all used Inferno.

Tsar_Bogatyr

KisoValley wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Shield breaker is a legit set, as legit as camping mines and spamming shields. A sorc who cannot defend himself vs shield breaker in a 1v1 doesn`t deserve any tournament win imo. It is close to impossible to kill a top level sorc when not running shield breaker as a balanced stam build (not min/maxing damage, i.e. offensive heavy setups)

EU dueling rules are onesided as hell and ignore some of the strongest offender (vmsa wpns, axes in particular) to meaningful outcomes. I mean, how can weapons that auto-apply bleeds which potentially make up 50%+ of the death recap be allowed but not shield breaker?

@Mojomonkeyman Clearly you didn't watch Mythicals tournament lol. There's a reason it was a lot less controversial than this and had a clear winner in the end without cheese tactics, changing cp, changing gear and changing skills etc. lol

e: Btw, it's funny how only 2 sorcs got to the semis of the EU tournament when no one was using SB. The rest of the sorcs lost their duels, and some of them are "top level sorcs" as you put it, not just randoms who entered for the sake of entering. In the finals, most people though the Stamplar was winning until his mistake cost him the duel vs Shey. It sounds to me NA has a problem of their stam players not being able to beat a sorc without SB, or their sorcs are just a class above all the stam players.

I think changing cp/gear/skills is more of a issue than a cheese set anyway. Not sure how this thread became all about SB. If Yoyuyi is saying he and Chief noticed that Sabre was changing stuff between duels then that is a big problem because it shouldn't be allowed.

Btw have I said I love NA drama?

using both SB & Malu was banned from the 1v1 tourney and malu in general from major mending, other than that all sets were fine
also


@Mojomonkeyman how does vmsa charge bleed consist of 50% of ur recap when it tics for like 500 per 2 sec. There must be something very wrong if that is the case

KisoValley

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Shield breaker is a legit set, as legit as camping mines and spamming shields. A sorc who cannot defend himself vs shield breaker in a 1v1 doesn`t deserve any tournament win imo. It is close to impossible to kill a top level sorc when not running shield breaker as a balanced stam build (not min/maxing damage, i.e. offensive heavy setups)

EU dueling rules are onesided as hell and ignore some of the strongest offender (vmsa wpns, axes in particular) to meaningful outcomes. I mean, how can weapons that auto-apply bleeds which potentially make up 50%+ of the death recap be allowed but not shield breaker?

@Mojomonkeyman Clearly you didn't watch Mythicals tournament lol. There's a reason it was a lot less controversial than this and had a clear winner in the end without cheese tactics, changing cp, changing gear and changing skills etc. lol

e: Btw, it's funny how only 2 sorcs got to the semis of the EU tournament when no one was using SB. The rest of the sorcs lost their duels, and some of them are "top level sorcs" as you put it, not just randoms who entered for the sake of entering. In the finals, most people though the Stamplar was winning until his mistake cost him the duel vs Shey. It sounds to me NA has a problem of their stam players not being able to beat a sorc without SB, or their sorcs are just a class above all the stam players.

I think changing cp/gear/skills is more of a issue than a cheese set anyway. Not sure how this thread became all about SB. If Yoyuyi is saying he and Chief noticed that Sabre was changing stuff between duels then that is a big problem because it shouldn't be allowed.

Btw have I said I love NA drama?

using both SB & Malu was banned from the 1v1 tourney and malu in general from major mending, other than that all sets were fine
also


@Mojomonkeyman how does vmsa charge bleed consist of 50% of ur recap when it tics for like 500 per 2 sec. There must be something very wrong if that is the case

I c fair enough, my mistake on the SB then. As I said, changing gear/cp/skills is worse than what sets you're wearing to cheese wins imo. If you start with SB, carry on with it.

I've also never been hit by vma bleed for even 30% of my recap lol. What is going on in NA I really don't know.

Ryuho

Derra wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

NativeJoe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

An MMA fighter or boxer tailors their entire training camp to specifically counter a particular fighter. Yet, no one detracts from the entertainment value or difficulty of those sports because the competitors prepare themselves. They know who they're fighting and what their strengths are. In ESO, If you know you're going to duel a certain person who is going to use certain tactics, why not prepare?

It seems those criticizing Sabre dislike that he prepares himself while they remain predictable. That's their fault, not Sabre's. And this strategy seems lame to you ... well dueling might not be for you. (I don't blame you. Duels in this game detracted away from what I enjoyed the most: random, frantic pvp.)

This might be one of the most significant posts in this whole thread. Quite possibly sinking Sypher's battleship this time around. If not sunk, then definitely a huge gaping hole in the hull and water rushing in. Sometimes you have to concede defeat.

On top of that, it seems the EU players are much more smart by instating tournament rules. If Sabre did change CP and gear around, and there was no rule against it, can't fault him. Maybe those who fell to Sabre were the fools for not changing things up to stop Sabre. And if you agree there, then I can make the argument that a COVENANT SOLDIER outsmarted the elves and drunks and won! MAKE RULES PEOPLE!!!!

There where rules. and unspoken codes of conduct as well.

1.What you start dueling with, You stick with. No changes to anything.
2. No lightning staves
3. No exploiting

unspoken agreement among duelers : No immovables, no LOS, No perma stealthing and purposely prolonging the matches.

No lightning staves wat?
That´s something i´ve heared for the very first time.

@Derra Lightning staves desync health. All the sorcs in EU used Inferno staff for this reason.

Hm. The more you know. I thought most use inferno staff for burst reasons as you basically need one to kill other sorcs.

Haven´t used a lightning one (nor seen one used) in ages sadly.

@Derra I am using it love to zip zap dodge rollers

Derra

KisoValley wrote: »

e: Btw, it's funny how only 2 sorcs got to the semis of the EU tournament when no one was using SB. The rest of the sorcs lost their duels, and some of them are "top level sorcs" as you put it, not just randoms who entered for the sake of entering.

I my personal main offender in the tourney was that two of the best active stamDKs did not participate for whatever reasons.

Also the duel between malcom and shey was a bit *** up when removing both harness + hardened from bars as shey had a huge advantage with detonation then /roll 100 would have been fairer imo.

KisoValley

Derra wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

e: Btw, it's funny how only 2 sorcs got to the semis of the EU tournament when no one was using SB. The rest of the sorcs lost their duels, and some of them are "top level sorcs" as you put it, not just randoms who entered for the sake of entering.

I my personal main offender in the tourney was that two of the best active stamDKs did not participate for whatever reasons.

Also the duel between malcom and shey was a bit *** up when removing both harness + hardened from bars as shey had a huge advantage with detonation then /roll 100 would have been fairer imo.

Oh I agree 100%. Think we know who would have won if EVERYONE took part. I called it right as they decided to take harness/hardened off as well as most others who were there attending/watching; Shey would win. Blobs said on his stream that the judges were leaning towards Malcolm but because it was a semi final they didn't want to bring it down to a judges vote and ended up deciding to take off the shields in order to determine a winner which probably cost Malcolm the duel.

kinggingernator

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

Derra

kinggingernator wrote: »

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

I think los is about as bm as it can get in duels - it was banned in the eu tourney.

With use of los you can stay alive eternally against virtually any opponent.

Yoyuyi999

kinggingernator wrote: »

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

Like i said, Jordaen tested his damage against sabre before EACH fight he did. Jordaen consistently got different values on his damage before sabre fought an opponent. For example, sabre was about to fight LowPolicy (stam dk) and Jordaen hit him for about a 5k WB. Then sabre was to duel blabafat (a magicka templar) and jordaen ended up hitting for a 5.8k WB. He is very clearly changing CP, plus he has done it plenty in the past

Lisbette

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

Like i said, Jordaen tested

This is where you lost me. He's a good kid but has zero credibility with me and just about everyone else.

-Tu tone

Hyssia

I see lots of QQ about people changing gear etc. before duels.

Should run them tournaments with specific rule sets about changing builds before fights.

Can't really do much against people who change champion points though :P

KenaPKK

Reyals wrote: »

Was fun watching sabre spam shieldbreaker bow light attacks on a sorc for 15 minutes straight and still not kill him

lol who was it?

I'm indifferent to the tournament, but I will point out that the sorc also failed to kill him for 15 minutes, apparently.

All of this drama kinda makes me wish I'd stuck around to watch the fights.

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

kinggingernator wrote: »

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

Like i said, Jordaen tested his damage against sabre before EACH fight he did. Jordaen consistently got different values on his damage before sabre fought an opponent. For example, sabre was about to fight LowPolicy (stam dk) and Jordaen hit him for about a 5k WB. Then sabre was to duel blabafat (a magicka templar) and jordaen ended up hitting for a 5.8k WB. He is very clearly changing CP, plus he has done it plenty in the past

Interesting. Clever test.

Lisbette wrote: »

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

Like i said, Jordaen tested

This is where you lost me. He's a good kid but has zero credibility with me and just about everyone else.

-Tu tone

No one cares.

KisoValley

kinggingernator wrote: »

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

LoS was banned in the EU tourny. I assume seeing as no one has mentioned anything was banned in the NA tourny it wasn't banned in it.

As I said, and Hyssia said, if you put rules in no one can cry other then CP changes which apparently it has been proven Sabre was changing CP according to Yoyuyi. Not sure what the story is behind Jordaen not having any credibility with anyone but yeah.

Yoyuyi999

Lisbette wrote: »

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

Like i said, Jordaen tested

This is where you lost me. He's a good kid but has zero credibility with me and just about everyone else.

-Tu tone

I watched him do it myself. Not to mention Sypher has legit proof in his past broadcast of Sabre doing these types of things

Yoyuyi999

For everyone saying there was no rule on respeccing, there were. Safiyer (Tourney holder) very clearly stated that there would be absolutely no respeccing after the tourney began. Including CP, gear, etc.

Yoyuyi999

KisoValley wrote: »

kinggingernator wrote: »

If someone is spamming shield breaker in a duel I will Los them so hard. There isn't a spoken rule about that is there? Somehow I don't think spamming light attacks takes a ton of skill.
Aside from that it's impossible to prove anything either way here. I don't think people should change cp and gear for each duel but as there is no proof nothing can be said and ik sabre is a good player no matter how cheesy whatever he is doing is.

LoS was banned in the EU tourny. I assume seeing as no one has mentioned anything was banned in the NA tourny it wasn't banned in it.

As I said, and Hyssia said, if you put rules in no one can cry other then CP changes which apparently it has been proven Sabre was changing CP according to Yoyuyi. Not sure what the story is behind Jordaen not having any credibility with anyone but yeah.

Tamerlin just does not like Jordaen. He sees him as another 'shuffle stacker' stamina build. Jord does have credibility, Tam's just salt.

And yes, LOS was also banned.

rfennell_ESO

Lisbette wrote: »

Yoyuyi999 wrote: »

Like i said, Jordaen tested

This is where you lost me. He's a good kid but has zero credibility with me and just about everyone else.

-Tu tone

As someone not involved in the dueling scene or DC...

I'm pretty sure chief and Yoyuyi have FAR more credibility than you and Sabre has ZERO credibility.

That's from someone who doesn't really like either of them, or really ANY of you.

olsborg

I loved to use lightning staff when I played sorc, mainly due to the fact its undodgeable and unreflectable. I love using shieldbreaker on my nb, because everytime I drop it and try other sets (wich is fun) I encounter a cheesy sorcy who spams hardened ward and healward like he doesnt know anything else...as long as said sorc has enough stam sustain, you aint gonna kill him. Sad, shieldbreaker makes it easy to kill bad sorcs, but is quite fair vs good sorcs. Shieldspam/stack is still the most OP game mechanic for pvp.

Publius_Scipio

I've decided to ask a legitimate question. I'm not part of the guild/TS/streaming scene, I only know of people from zone chat.

I know that Tamerlin and Sabre Ali have been DC since forever, along with many of the other known DC players (if I'm not mistaken chief/Jordan is more new?) Why all the beef within DC, more specifically in this thread?

Tamerlin and Sabre aren't Lowbei (lol).

rfennell_ESO

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I've decided to ask a legitimate question. I'm not part of the guild/TS/streaming scene, I only know of people from zone chat.

I know that Tamerlin and Sabre Ali have been DC since forever, along with many of the other known DC players (if I'm not mistaken chief/Jordan is more new?) Why all the beef within DC, more specifically in this thread?

Tamerlin and Sabre aren't Lowbei (lol).

You should see the type of whispers Tamerlin sends to opposing factions, it's like a 14 year old raging with tourettes.

sabresandiego_ESO

Finally figured out how to log in to my account. Ill make this post kind of long to cover a few topics but I will bulletpoint the main ideas.

TLDR Bulletpoints

-Haters gonna hate. That's how you know youre good at something. I saw a lot of MMA correlation in this thread and I thought it was interesting as I too am an MMA fan. Look at Jon Jones, people have hated him for his entire career. Everything has been said about him from him being too tall, having an unfairly long reach, using disgraceful eye pokes and kicks to the knees, being arrogant, being a fake. Yet regardless of all the excuses made by the hating masses, hes probably the best MMA fighter of all time. Now I am no Jon Jones, this is a simple video game which I casually play. I don't feel special, or like I am above anyone else. But its funny to see the haters come out when you do well at something

-On the Public Test Server I switched around my CP all over the place. I had inifinite gold and was testing abilities, gear, CP and more. One of the main things I wanted to test on the PTS was 100 resistant compared to 100 hardy or 100 ele defender. Many of the people I dueled on this server were extremely bitter from losing to me and those are the same people in this thread accusing me of CP switching

-On live I don't even duel very often, let alone change my CP around for duels. I usually just run around with very high amounts of hardy to prevent stealth gankers, and stam classes rage because of it. Dueling causes too many bruised egos and butthurt. I am a casual now, I play a few hours a week at most.

-During the tournament I followed the rules exactly as they were. I never changed my gear or my CP

Addressing Specific People:

Sypher: Sypher is a good guy and is usually very level headed and intelligent. His attack on me came out of nowhere, probably because he was streaming when he lost to me. I have been dueling Sypher since legend was created about 2 years ago. Back then I played a sorc and he played a DK and if anyone knows my competance and fairness in dueling, it would be him.

Yoyuyi and Jordaen: These guys have probably dueled me a combined total of 30 times and lost about 90% of the time, so it makes sense that they hate me. The majority of the times I fought them was on the PTS, and the majority of the time I had very high levels of hardy against their stamina builds. Because of the bruised egos that come with dueling, they want to pretend that its because I had high levels of hardy and that Im a "CP switcher" that they lost to me. This is why I don't duel often outside of the PTS, because losing duels makes people bitter and upset and bruises their egos. Even I get mad when I lose, and I do lose sometimes.

Addressing Tournament Claims:

Blabafat, a magicka templar, fought me immediately after I fought low policy, a Stamina DK. My character never went into any character screens at all between the two matches. Yoyu and Jordaen are grasping at straws because they are still sour that I was destroying them in duels on the Public Test Server. Rather than accept defeat, they want to blame me for running a high hardy setup against their stamina builds. I infact always run high hardy setups to prevent stealth ganking. They are still mad that I wrecked them and that's why they are fabricating this nonsense.

As for their testing it is completely flawed. I run a defending bow, I use mirage instead of shuffle, and using a shadow ability gives nightblade shadow barrier. They were repeatedly hitting me at different times, sometimes when my 2h was out, sometimes my bow was out, sometimes I had mirage on, sometimes I had used a shadow ability, and then made up all sorts of inaccurate nonsense. I never once changed my gear, build, CP, or anything in the tournament.

These guys are so bitter in fact that they were trying to turn a draw I had with a sorcerror who would sit inside of a minefield and clip inside of his atronarch and engine guardian in order to be untargetable by my bow light attacks by claiming that I deserve a loss for not charging directly into the minefield and atronarch. When the tournament master, Safiyer got peer pressured by them and messaged me mid duel to kamikaze into it, I did absolutely that and almost killed the sorcerror three of four times, while never getting below 50% health myself. Yet these same people wanted to give the draw to the sorcerror as a victory, until he came back on a nighbtlade and lost to me.

The funny thing about this whole thing is that I won the last 1on1 tournament, where CP switching wasn't even a thing, there was no CP cap and everyone I fought had significantly more CP than me. To have this drama, when I have won both 1on1 Legend Tournaments, is pretty silly.

Tournament Recap:

Match 1: My first match was against a stamina character of unknown class that didnt know what he was doing. The fight was over within a few seconds

Match 2: My second match was against one of the very best magicka sorcerrors who plays the game. He has incredibly good timing, also min maxes his character, and uses every advantage he can to win. His general strategy was to sit inside of a mine field, summon a storm atronarch on cooldown, and burst me down. He also used the engine guardian set to maintain his resources. My strategy here was to wear him down with shield breaker light attacks until his atronarch expired, and then go in for the kill. To counter my strategy, he would stand inside of or behind his atronarch or engine guardian, preventing my shield breaker light bow attacks from hitting him. This created a very long drawn out stalemate. The officers in charge of the tournament ruled that I had to directly charge into his mines and atronarch and play offensively, otherwise they would give him the win. As unfair as that seemed, I obliged and attempted to kamikaze into his defenses. I got him low on health several times but he was always able to streak away and recover while his mine immobilizes, healing wards, and his own burst damage would force me on the defensive before I could finish him. This match ended in a stalemate. He offered to return on his nightblade to rematch me

Match 3: This match ended up being the most exciting match of the tournament. When he returned on his nightblade I did not know what to expect, and I was actually a bit over confident. I assumed he was a stamina nightblade, but shortly after the duel began I was pelted with cripples, swallow souls, and assassins will with soul tethers. This duel went back and forth constantly. He was wearing the 2 pc malubeth healing beam set to counter my fasallas set, and it seemed to proc constantly. Everytime it procd he would basically be in god mode. However, I knew how to counter this set because I had encountered it before. When it would proc, I would dodge roll away with my bow for major expedition and outrun the beam. Then come back and attack again. I knew that the beam had something like an 8% proc rate, and I needed to hope for it to not proc one of the times I got him low. The duel went back and forth several times, I nearly died to the massive burst from soul tether and assassins will several times, combined with the powerful cripples on me, and he also almost died multiple times due to incap strikes, shield breaker light attacks, and surprise attacks; but then malubeth would proc and he would recover. It was an amazing match, but I knew that if I jousted in and out every time malubeth proced I would eventually get lucky and get him low where he would not get a proc. Finally after about 5 minutes of an incredibly back and forth duel, he got low on health and I continued my onslaught. Malubeth finally failed to proc for him and he collapsed to the ground in defeat.

Match 4: My next match was against one of the strongest stamina dragonknights in the game. A great player harnessing a great class. Stamina dragonknights are one of the best pvp classes and are incredibly difficult to kill because of the major mending provided by igneous shield. This duel was a straight up stalemate. He could not get me below 50% health because I countered his wrecking blow dragon leap burst very well with timed blocks and rolls, and although I got him to 25% several times I could not finish him because he would dodge roll away, then fossilize me and use igneous shield with his heals to recover to full. My only real chance to kill him was to hit him with a heavy attack crit and surprise attack crit burst at the perfect window at the end of one of his dodge rolls when he was already low, but he was very quick to fossilize me every time and I never got the killing blow. He played very well and completely countered fasallas with his strategy. The duel was a draw after 25 minutes

Match 5: This was the final match, against one of the best magicka templars in the game. My strategy for this fight was to come forward relentlessly. He may have been expecting a more calculated approach as I had in my previous duels, and that may have thrown him off, but he seemed to be caught offguard and was unable to recover. In under 30 seconds he laid dead on the floor and I was once again the champion of the tournament. The reigning, defending 1on1 Legend Tournament Champion

SleepyTroll

Oh ***, the truth comes out.

Publius_Scipio

Welcome to the forums Mr. Sabre Ali. Your business with the other players and Legend is just that, your business. But COVENANT business is Scipio business and I need all DC fighting off the tsunami of elves in haderus.

I do very much like how you detailed the tournament explaining counters and the like. I also laugh at this SISSY SORC who thought hiding up his summoned atronach's a** is a good idea.

All that being said, not knowing how to log into the forums is a l2p issue.

sabresandiego_ESO

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Welcome to the forums Mr. Sabre Ali. Your business with the other players and Legend is just that, your business. But COVENANT business is Scipio business and I need all DC fighting off the tsunami of elves in haderus.

I do very much like how you detailed the tournament explaining counters and the like. I also laugh at this SISSY SORC who thought hiding up his summoned atronach's a** is a good idea.

All that being said, not knowing how to log into the forums is a l2p issue.

Hi there Publius. I have to admit your roleplaying in this thread has given me a good laugh. Keep up the good work

Rilla

Any links to watch this tournement?

sabresandiego_ESO

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Gratz to Sabre for winning the tourney, I fought him a few times and he is definitely a strong player.

Ishammael wrote: »

Pretty sure most of NA enjoys the EU drama of LegMage vs Everyone else.

I already beat up pretty much everyone on EU who duels regularly so many times, I can't count. People will be hating for as long as they are playing, don't take it seriously - it's just pvp tears really...

@LegendaryMage

I have fought legendary mage many times on PTS. I remember when I first encountered him on the 1.6 PTS with my hybrid sorc, and then every PTS afterwards. We would test all sorts of things every PTS together. He is a great player and we always have great duels. We have even gotten heated against each other, particularly because of shield breaker, but that is the nature of competitive dueling. Great player and good sportsman even when we didnt see eye to eye