Would a non eso plus craft bag be fair?

Fukutsu

Eso plus members would get unlimited craft bag space. Another bag, available on the crown store would allow 100 of each craft item type. This would allow players to carry all resources in enough quantity to level up all of there crafting skills as they play.

Fukutsu

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

I want Eso plus members to have maximum benefits. They deserve it because they are helping to support this awesome game.

I really think that a craft bag for all players would make the game better and more enjoyable.

AugustoCP

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

Not for all players, no, but it really should be available as a one time payment (aka Crown Store)

Solariken

I think it's perfectly reasonable to offer some limited version of the crafting inventory for straight purchase.

SirKool

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

Nope if you want it sub for it!

Pomaikai

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

Time to get a sub. These repetitive begging threads are beyond annoying at this point.

Serenityx

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

Plenty of people have already purchased all the current DLC and have little reason to sub..Im fine with waiting a week or two more for my ninth trait and I see too many people having issues with getting the crowns advertised in the plus desription for that to be any motivation.

I dont really see a need for it after DB comes anyways, with levels being account bound I wont have a need for storing mats above lvl 50 but below vr16 anymore.

C0wrex

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

As much as I want to agree with this post and say that crafting bags should be for everyone, I really do think that crafting bags is one of the few good rewards for people who support the game's developers. Think of it this way, for Zenimax to continue improving this game, they need to get income somehow and ESO+ and the Crown Store seems to be the only way to do that.

That being said, I do think that adding an option to buy crafting bags (With a certain amount of space) in the crown store would not only benefit Zenimax but the players who don't want to subscribe to ESO+ as well

ForsakenSin

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

why don't we get the bag when we buy dlc we are still spending money ? it can be with 100 space and sub they get unlimited that would be fair

Pigment

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

From a business perspective, residual income (subs/monthly fees) is a little more desired/valuable than one time payments (buying DLCs once) because it's almost guaranteed every month. They're using crafting bags to reward people who supply continual and reliable profit, which gives more people a reason to sub, which in turn gives them more $$ to work with which means more content. So go sub.

Fukutsu

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

So, at this point it looks like the ESO community votes that the bag should be an ESO plus exclusive.
That's fine.

I see a lot of support for a more limited version of the bag, too.

I am at an early point in the game. My bank space is at 100, and my inventory is at 125.
I got my provisioning up to 50, and decided it was really beneficial to craft. I started other crafting, and immediately realized that I didn't have space in the bank for the items I got for deconstructing things. I ONLY have crafting material in my bank, with the exception of some treasure maps. I would like to craft without having to abandon the items I have saved for provisioning. I already have items for sale in the Guild Trade; I am doing my best to use my space efficiently.

I'm going to open up a new thread about space in the general discussion because it looks like the case is closed on the craft bag. I'll provide a link.

SleepyTroll

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

Should have put yes, I am a freeloader. since in the No you made a point to put the price...

Fukutsu

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

haha I buy the DLC,s and anything with content. I'm not just resistant to spending money, I just don't really like the other perks of ESO plus. I don't want exp boost, and other bonuses because I actually want to spend the time in the game. I want to craft that EXP boost item. I think its a scroll. Sounds exciting! I'm still drooling over the bag tho! Good for the ESO plus members, but I'm not stopping my SOS for more bag space!

new thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266749/final-craft-bags-for-eso-plus-members-only-please-share-your-opinion-about-the-rest-of-us#latest

Pomaikai

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

See, that's the problem. The perks of ESO+ have kind of sucked. The crafting bag is one way of adding real value to the perks of being a member.

Personally, I think they should add more, and that like the crafting bag, will cause the qq and salt to flow. If people complain as much about the next ESO+ perk as they are about this one, then ZOS will know they've got it right.

RandalMarrs

Guess there were not enough threads about this after all.

Pomaikai

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

RandalMarrs wrote: »

Guess there were not enough threads about this after all.

We still have over a week until release day. There's still plenty of time for them to post more...

timidobserver

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

I don't care if they add it in August sometime, but I am okay with subscribers getting it first.

xilfxlegion

It should be for eso plus members only, not the unwashed peasants. anything else would be uncivilized

RandalMarrs

There have been many good suggestions and discussions in the many other threads about this subject. I think everyone agrees inventory management is an issue.

Turelus

Once again as I have said in every other thread on this issue.

The problem is if you introduce anything which means there is no reason to sub for this, then you have gone against the entire point of the item.

It's there as something to entice (or reward) people to have subscriptions. The current benefits are not worth the price of the sub and thus many players dropped them. ZOS now need to get those players back as subscribers to make the money needed to keep pushing the game forward.

If you sell the original or any alternate version of the bag then players who don't want to sub will pay the one time payment and then no more money, which isn't the point of the exercise as I wrote above.

End of the day this is a subscriber item to help drive subscribers up and reward those paying the subscription. This is a far better idea than most other MMO games have done as they're giving subs additional ease of life benefits rather than penalising unsubbed players.

Nestor

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

I am currently a Master Crafter in all professions. I carry in inventory every mat needed for every level and type of gear or consumables. I have at least two stacks of every refined mat, stacks of every raw mat, stacks of every trait and style material, every alchemy ingredient, every provisioning ingredient and every enchanting rune.

All this without any crafting bags. These bags are not offering anything that you can't already do in the game with the current inventory system, other than some convenience with Inventory Management.

Ritzey01

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

So many people are wanting max benefit with minimum effort. If you want it, sub for it!

EsoRecon

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

And I'm not a sub.

Septimus_Magna

You can still use the crafting bag when your sub expires, you just cannot add new items if Im not mistaken.

Serenityx

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

Turelus wrote: »

Once again as I have said in every other thread on this issue.

The problem is if you introduce anything which means there is no reason to sub for this, then you have gone against the entire point of the item.

It's there as something to entice (or reward) people to have subscriptions. The current benefits are not worth the price of the sub and thus many players dropped them. ZOS now need to get those players back as subscribers to make the money needed to keep pushing the game forward.

If you sell the original or any alternate version of the bag then players who don't want to sub will pay the one time payment and then no more money, which isn't the point of the exercise as I wrote above.

End of the day this is a subscriber item to help drive subscribers up and reward those paying the subscription. This is a far better idea than most other MMO games have done as they're giving subs additional ease of life benefits rather than penalising unsubbed players.

I disagree that current plus benefits are not worth it, I bought all the DLC only because I could not use my xbl wallet to pay for it (requires a credit card). I almost regret it because I know im not going to play this game long enough to merit the cash I spent on the game. Basically I should have gotten much closer to end game before putting cash into this game but since dlc is not level locked I bought it before realizing the state of endgame PvP as well as some other content like VMA. Its just too unstable of a game (imho) I would reccomend eso plus to anyone without the DLC its so much more worth it. From there you can test and decide wether its a game worth committing too.

Reevster

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

I think they should just change the whole pay system ( again) to Sub only, they have enough people hooked again lol, should do ok money wise, but keep crown store .

If you cant afford $15 a month you shouldn't be playing games on-line anyways.....

Fukutsu

Yes; all eso players should have craft item space.

Nestor wrote: »

I am currently a Master Crafter in all professions. I carry in inventory every mat needed for every level and type of gear or consumables. I have at least two stacks of every refined mat, stacks of every raw mat, stacks of every trait and style material, every alchemy ingredient, every provisioning ingredient and every enchanting rune.

All this without any crafting bags. These bags are not offering anything that you can't already do in the game with the current inventory system, other than some convenience with Inventory Management.

This sounds like absolute bull ***. If the max inventory is 140, then you cannot carry as much as you say. Please explain this to me.

Jazbay_Grape

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

I'm not a sub either, and I think it's fair that they get them. They should get something for that, other than the monthly crowns that I often see people posting on here saying that they didn't get, etc...

Nestor

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

Fukutsu wrote: »

This sounds like absolute bull ***. If the max inventory is 140, then you cannot carry as much as you say. Please explain this to me.

@Fukutsu

Max character inventory is 200, max bank inventory is 240.


Enchanter carries all the runes, Blacksmither carries all the Refined Metal Mats and Tempers, Clothier/Woodworker carries all the refined wood and cloth and tempers, bank holds all unrefined mats, provisioning ingredients, alchemy ingredients, trait and style mats.

Easy Peasy and well within the games inventory system as it stands now.

Taisynn

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

So sick of these repeat threads / polls that keep getting locked for a reason. I'm just going to quote what I said in the last thread.

It's also very telling, and biased, that you're saying pay $180 a year like it's a bad thing. See? We do pay a lot more and we deserve a lot more.

Taisynn wrote: »

I have rehashed this so many times.

When you outright buy the DLC, your perk is your forever access to it. You get it as long as the game lasts. Your investment can never be taken from you should you stop paying into the game.

Subscribers pay MORE overtime for access to these DLCs, and the moment we stop paying POOF no more access. That investment disappears along with the money we put into it.

Subscribers need a better perk than just three days off our research time, 10% exp bonus, and some gold incentive. These are practically nothing. So we get ONE nice thing for making sure the game has steady revenue every month. Without us this game would cease to exist.

So, stop with the "it's not fair," rhetoric. You want the crafting bag, pay the $15 a month.

And the crowns we get everymonth? Hardly enough to get anything nice. And we're paying more for them on average.

And this whole "privacy" argument about not wanting to use a credit card - go to your local game store, gas station, etc. and go buy an ESO plus card. That's what my boyfriend and I do.

I buy my sub AND buy crowns for the vanity items. Don't argue we don't do the same just because we sub.

Dracan_Fontom

No; suck it up or pay $180 a year.

I've lived without it for this long, and I'll live without for months to come.