elven.were_wolf wrote: »

Power extraction really needs to be changed from magick damage to disease damage.

And what about samina NB's that have Incapacitating Strike to generate Ultimate, like me? Can't they make an alternative for stamina NB's?

We could use Tava's Favor set to regen ult considering stamblades dodge a *** load. This also would not require kills either to regen ult. This is what i've considered with the recent changes.

Also, try using Summon Shade. Jump in, engage, start your ult regen and back off until you got ult. This works as well.

@elven.were_wolf you can still use Soul Harvest if you want it will hit just as hard as it does not. Just the other morph will hit harder.

With the continued nerfs to NB healing. I can say that they are the weakest healing class right now by quite a bit. To bring this back into balance, giving nb's a spell that grants major mending would not be out of line. Also, some sort of synergies from class abilities would be greatly appreciated. The new trial healing set (Twilight Remedy) is only good for Templar healers. Templar healers get 2 synergies from class abilities that they use to heal: Purifying ritual, and Shards. Not to mention they also use the same synergy that the other healers also use: Necrotic/Energy Orb. Veil of blades/bolstering dark does not count as a synergy since it is extemely conditional and rarely gets activated.

Suggestions:
Make a morph of agony give major mending and give a small nuke hot upon cast.
Make the Veil/bolstering synergy available at 75% health instead of 50%
Make a morph of shades have a synergy that either grants a HoT, restores stamina, or grants small damage shield.

bowmanz607 wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

With the continued nerfs to NB healing. I can say that they are the weakest healing class right now by quite a bit. To bring this back into balance, giving nb's a spell that grants major mending would not be out of line. Also, some sort of synergies from class abilities would be greatly appreciated. The new trial healing set (Twilight Remedy) is only good for Templar healers. Templar healers get 2 synergies from class abilities that they use to heal: Purifying ritual, and Shards. Not to mention they also use the same synergy that the other healers also use: Necrotic/Energy Orb. Veil of blades/bolstering dark does not count as a synergy since it is extemely conditional and rarely gets activated.

Suggestions:
Make a morph of agony give major mending and give a small nuke hot upon cast.
Make the Veil/bolstering synergy available at 75% health instead of 50%
Make a morph of shades have a synergy that either grants a HoT, restores stamina, or grants small damage shield.

i dont mind your other suggestions, but i dont think every class should have everything. So, o i dont think NB should have mending. However, I am for making many things available outside of class abilities. Perhaps a more reliable mending from resto staff line.

either gives us major mending from somewhere dont care where or have a look at funnel health again. good places maybe a morph of entropy refreshing path or the resto line

bowmanz607 wrote: »

omfgitsbatman wrote: »

With the continued nerfs to NB healing. I can say that they are the weakest healing class right now by quite a bit. To bring this back into balance, giving nb's a spell that grants major mending would not be out of line. Also, some sort of synergies from class abilities would be greatly appreciated. The new trial healing set (Twilight Remedy) is only good for Templar healers. Templar healers get 2 synergies from class abilities that they use to heal: Purifying ritual, and Shards. Not to mention they also use the same synergy that the other healers also use: Necrotic/Energy Orb. Veil of blades/bolstering dark does not count as a synergy since it is extemely conditional and rarely gets activated.

Suggestions:
Make a morph of agony give major mending and give a small nuke hot upon cast.
Make the Veil/bolstering synergy available at 75% health instead of 50%
Make a morph of shades have a synergy that either grants a HoT, restores stamina, or grants small damage shield.

i dont mind your other suggestions, but i dont think every class should have everything. So, o i dont think NB should have mending. However, I am for making many things available outside of class abilities. Perhaps a more reliable mending from resto staff line.

Completely agree we can't all have the same buff with different names. Everyone should suck at something, one class can't have it all we need reasons to ru. The other class. We have burst and a powerful healing Ultimate if you want to go the healing path, not sure if it now heals the caster but if you're in PvE and sounds like you as it's great.

Also you have to agree that the double crit was cheap withs the cheapest attack with a now heal based on damage with a high damage high crit class the double crit was over kill.

Thank you zos for finally changing power extraction!!! It is finally usefull!

sAnn92 wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Thank you zos for finally changing power extraction!!! It is finally usefull!

except that it's not, no one in their right mind would use that lol

And why is that? Say I want to run sword and board. Now i have a buff and a viable aoe. Creates more viable build diversity.

Surprise attack needs to be disease damage.

Surprise Attack and Ambush should be disease damage for the sake of consistency. I mean, it would still deal the same damage anyway.

bowmanz607 wrote: »

elven.were_wolf wrote: »

Surprise attack needs to be disease damage.

susmitds wrote: »

Surprise Attack and Ambush should be disease damage for the sake of consistency. I mean, it would still deal the same damage anyway.

No way. Need diversity. All attacks can't do the same thing.

Well, there is always the weapons for physical damage.

Lifecode666 wrote: »

We need a aoe ultimate that do disease damage for stamina. The other soul teether morph

that will hurt healers. use dawnbreaker.

we cant just split all the skills down the middle. then stam and mag will no longer be unique but merely mirror images of one another.

KenaPKK wrote: »

I believe that Power Extraction needs another component to make it competitive with the likes of Steel Tornado and Bombard -- not necessarily a damage buff, but some utility component.

Ideas include a bleed, a heal per enemy hit like on Sap Essence, a minor penetration debuff, a minor increased damage taken debuff, etc.

Other ideas? Input? Please buff this ability to give us a reason to take it over Bombard or Steelnado.

Thread here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/265072/power-extraction-needs-a-little-something-extra?new=1

remember that this ability allows or use with any weapon which could be useful for the likes of 1h/s and 2h aoe. Not to mention it does give a major brutality buff which is nice if you dont wan to run rally or again are running a 1h/s setup. That said, a dot would be nice.

The_Saint wrote: »

imo now only agony is the last really useless skill we have.
So i would like to see something new on that. But i dont know really what because we have a good dot (crippling) and good aoe (with path and sap/power)...

With all the new sets that works on synergies, it would be nice to have a skill with a synergy for group. NB is the only class without a synergy from a skill (not ulti)

agony is a useful ranged CC. in fact the only ranged CC we have. It is a useful ability. Further, not all classes need the same thing. the other classes, specifically Dk and temp, are supposed to excel more at group play than a nb.