PTS Patch Notes v2.4.2

GoodOlPinkly · May 2016

sunshineflame wrote: »

Why all the complaints about a nerf to blocking? All I saw was in increase in block cost reduction from 30% to 36% and 1% more on your gear. That makes a potential total of 13% more reduction. Am I missing something, because that sounds like a buff.

They took our 20% from bracing and now block cost reduction is now in the Green CP tree not the Red which is WTH

Epona222 · May 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Crafting & Economy
Enchanting
Potency runes can once again be obtained from runestones!
Each harvestable runestone is guaranteed to contain an Essence and an Aspect rune, and one third of the runestones you find will also contain a Potency rune.

Half the time, when you find a Potency rune it will be scaled to your combat level, and the other half of the time it will be scaled to your rank in the Potency Improvement passive.

So now it's no longer possible to get low-level potency runes from harvesting? That will be very bad for crafter players who create glyphs for lower-level friends or guild mates. The level of harvested Potency runes should depend on the zone level, not player level (except in battle-levelled zones, obviously).

Basically, this. I'm starting to think that the ZOS team does not really understand how crafting works (in terms of what sort of crafting people do, and what mats they need access to). I don't only need potency runes at my level, I need to be able to collect any level, so that I can make glyphs for others. ie. The same way every other leveled crafting mat works - if I need ebony mats, I can get them in Coldharbour etc. Runes need to work the same way.

Wild_squirtle · May 2016

The people who make these changes need to look into new carers. They clearly are not cut out for this line of work.

GRYM.LOCKE · May 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@Wrobel

Common Folks....... 2/3 more patches to go and pretty much nothing so far on:

1: No new shield changes... STILL pleaae address PVE and dont nerf due to PVP
2: No new Stam Skills for sorcerers Y.E.T
3: No werewolf updates/changes to model/Skin/Skills? ENOUGH pages for you to read........... F.G.S
4: no new animations for Puke night ?
5: revert some skills to keep stuns/knockdowns
6: Vampire skill 3/4/5 ?

be nice to get something out of this new DLC apart from the Craft bag Give me your paypal account Ill wire you 100 Quid to get me werewolf changed!!! * sort of not joking

aidenmoore · May 2016

Siluen wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System
The Steed
Block Expertise:
Renamed this Champion ability to Shadow Ward.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Elusive ability from The Shadow constellation.

The Shadow
Elusive:
Renamed this Champion ability to Ironclad.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.

If I understand this correctly this seems like a rather odd change. Why move the block cost reduction from a tree that gives you bonuses for blocking with it's passives to a tree that is all about avoidance and vice versa?

... and where am I going to get all them Thief CPs from? :<

Do like the buff to Fortress and Sturdy and the room this gives for heavy armor to develop beyond just the block-cost-reduction armor.

Seems to me, they want us to reduce our already horrendous regeneration and reduced abilities cost for more block reduction.

Saturn · May 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Do you have any plans for fixing the bug with the "Litany of Blood" targets, which results in there being 15 additional targets (most of whom do not match the clues). The incorrect targets spawn after an original target has been killed with the Blade of Woe, and seem to completely replace the original target, until the next day when it resets.

If this isn't fixed, there will be a lot of confused players doing this, since they may be looking for a target which does not match any of the clues.

In this spoiler is a list of all the incorrect targets:

Alcewae (Skywatch)
Glonuin (Elden Root)
Samoril (Marbruk)
Maedali (Vulkwasten)
Hadamri (Rawl'Kha)
Gaden Maryon (Davon's Watch)
Favela Doren (Mournhold)
Ahkoeen (Stormhold)
Roreka (Windhelm)
Honthod (Riften)
Gepard Macile (Dagerfall)
Fabrice Maric (Wayrest)
Lashat (Shornhelm)
Jagoud (Sentinel)
Habena (Evermore)

kadar · May 2016

Fixed an issue where several abilities (such as Daedric Curse or Weapon Enchantment damage procs) was causing your health bar to become desynced.

But I thought Vicious death was causing my health bar to desync?

Soris · May 2016

Rugz_Maulgoth wrote: »

I guess we got our answer as to how they were going to deal with infinite sustain builds.

Yeeah but what about those more "normal" builds like balanced between damage and regen? They are screwed even more. They could simply put a hard cap on those like they did for armor and resist and be done with it.

Cinbri wrote: »

No CD on MoL, yay

Also what is MoL?

venomsky · May 2016

1)Siphoning Power Extraction (Drain Power morph): This morph now deals Disease Damage instead of Physical Damage.
2)This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.
well wrobel is the cancer of this game!

Bfish22090 · May 2016

@Alcast can you purify poisons?

Flaminir · May 2016

Valrien wrote: »

You guys had a chance with sorcs and you guys dropped the ball again. Passive changes for Stam Sorc, and nothing for Magicka players? Not even an instant damage spam for example? Nice. Fantastic job, ZOS.

Magicka may even have been nerfed... Depends on the flat value of surge heals.

Can anyone get onto pts & report what this heal value is?

I have a bad feeling...

ManDraKE · May 2016

Like it or not, is fair that dodge roll and block cost reduction are in the same tree.

ArvenAldmeri · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.

This worries me... what flat value is that? 500 and 5000 is quite a difference... And only once every second? Why that cooldown?

Armitas · May 2016

I like the thought process they had in rearranging the champion system so that certain outcomes become limited but man oh man why do they have to slap tanks in the face again. I'm just kind of tired of it.

Kalebron · May 2016

I am sure they will change the blocking things again once they see how it performs on PTS. We still have a while before release.

potirondb16_ESO · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Sorcerer
Dark Magic
Dark Exchange: Increased the amount of health restored from this ability and its morphs by 100%.

Storm Calling
Disintegrate:
Renamed this passive ability to Implosion.

This passive ability now also grants all Physical Damage you deal a chance to instantly pulverize low health enemies, dealing additional Physical Damage to them.

Updated this passive’s tooltip to indicate what the health threshold is for it to trigger.

Energized: This passive ability now also increases your Physical Damage done in addition to the Shock Damage done.

Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): This morph now also grants the Minor Expedition buff at all times while it is active.

Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.

What ! I mean I do understand stamsorc needed a buff but I really tought this wasn't going to be done against the magsorc at any given time ! I mean there's Nothing said about magika sorc defensive ability being revamp ! (shield is now as good as anyone else to begin with ! Not great !)

Desintegration passive ... sure we needed to lower the lowest magika class dps in the game ... (against it)

Surge now gives constant Healing ... not sure how this will play out at all it will probably lower the sorc self-Healing capacity on magika build (as far as the really needed one goes).

Also no modification to Crystal frag (this skill sometime takes like 7 time before it proc ! can you make it so Crystal Frag has a chance to make himself be ready to proc ? like a two time Crystal frag in a row (35% of the time ?) I mean you gave Templar 5 dot cleans !!! (that's not even right !) I hope this morph no longer clear allies in any way ! When you guys talked about looking into sorcerer magika and stamina I didn't tought this was going to mean lower magika, I tought it was really looking it up to see what could be mage to even the Plainfield now that shield are going to be universal.

Also can you tell us if our finisher is being be look at ?

potirondb16_ESO · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Sorcerer
Dark Magic
Dark Exchange: Increased the amount of health restored from this ability and its morphs by 100%.

Storm Calling
Disintegrate:
Renamed this passive ability to Implosion.

This passive ability now also grants all Physical Damage you deal a chance to instantly pulverize low health enemies, dealing additional Physical Damage to them.

Updated this passive’s tooltip to indicate what the health threshold is for it to trigger.

Energized: This passive ability now also increases your Physical Damage done in addition to the Shock Damage done.

Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): This morph now also grants the Minor Expedition buff at all times while it is active.

Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.

What ! I mean I do understand stamsorc needed a buff but I really tought this wasn't going to be done against the magsorc at any given time ! I mean there's Nothing said about magika sorc defensive ability being revamp ! (shield is now as good as anyone else to begin with ! Not great !)

Desintegration passive ... sure we needed to lower the lowest magika class dps in the game ... (against it)

Surge now gives constant Healing ... not sure how this will play out at all it will probably lower the sorc self-Healing capacity on magika build (as far as the really needed one goes).

Also no modification to Crystal frag (this skill sometime takes like 7 time before it proc ! can you make it so Crystal Frag has a chance to make himself be ready to proc ? like a two time Crystal frag in a row (35% of the time ?) I mean you gave Templar 5 dot cleans !!! (that's not even right !) I hope this morph no longer clear allies in any way ! When you guys talked about looking into sorcerer magika and stamina I didn't tought this was going to mean lower magika, I tought it was really looking it up to see what could be made to even the Plainfield now that shield are going to be universal.

Also can you tell us if our finisher is being look at ? [/quote]

Wild_squirtle · May 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno any idea what @Wrobel was thinking for stam sorc buffs cause Im still waiting.

potirondb16_ESO · May 2016

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

.....you nerfed blocking again....well done.

They didn't the lower the cost of block coming from passive

MaxwellC · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System
The Steed
Block Expertise:
Renamed this Champion ability to Shadow Ward.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Elusive ability from The Shadow constellation.

The Shadow
Elusive:
Renamed this Champion ability to Ironclad.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Dear God please no, This is good for my PvP setups since I can allocate some left over CP in my warrior tree so I can dodge roll for days but my PvE tank setup would lose so much. I love the increase shield armor passive this tree provides so what am I going to put it in? Spell resistance? Like seriously please change this back to block reduction.

Caff32 · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System
The Steed
Block Expertise:
Renamed this Champion ability to Shadow Ward.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Elusive ability from The Shadow constellation.

The Shadow
Elusive:
Renamed this Champion ability to Ironclad.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.

Why do you hate tanks? You already can't restore stamina when blocking. Now tanks must choose between reducing block cost and increased stamina regen/reduced stamina ability costs?!? This change makes absolutely zero sense.

Shadesofkin · May 2016

potirondb16_ESO wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

.....you nerfed blocking again....well done.

They didn't the lower the cost of block coming from passive

No, they hosed everyone who already had points dedicated between the various skill cost reduction stars and the regen stars.
And in order to gain that shield passive you've got to put points into a tree that now has NOTHING to do with blocking.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · May 2016

And sorcs are getting nerfed yet again, LOL. Sorcs are such a bad class these days that it's not even funny anymore. [snip]

[edit for flame]

Valrien · May 2016

potirondb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Sorcerer
Dark Magic
Dark Exchange: Increased the amount of health restored from this ability and its morphs by 100%.

Storm Calling
Disintegrate:
Renamed this passive ability to Implosion.

This passive ability now also grants all Physical Damage you deal a chance to instantly pulverize low health enemies, dealing additional Physical Damage to them.

Updated this passive’s tooltip to indicate what the health threshold is for it to trigger.

Energized: This passive ability now also increases your Physical Damage done in addition to the Shock Damage done.

Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): This morph now also grants the Minor Expedition buff at all times while it is active.

Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.

What ! I mean I do understand stamsorc needed a buff but I really tought this wasn't going to be done against the magsorc at any given time ! I mean there's Nothing said about magika sorc defensive ability being revamp ! (shield is now as good as anyone else to begin with ! Not great !)

Desintegration passive ... sure we needed to lower the lowest magika class dps in the game ... (against it)

Surge now gives constant Healing ... not sure how this will play out at all it will probably lower the sorc self-Healing capacity on magika build (as far as the really needed one goes).

Also no modification to Crystal frag (this skill sometime takes like 7 time before it proc ! can you make it so Crystal Frag has a chance to make himself be ready to proc ? like a two time Crystal frag in a row (35% of the time ?) I mean you gave Templar 5 dot cleans !!! (that's not even right !) I hope this morph no longer clear allies in any way ! When you guys talked about looking into sorcerer magika and stamina I didn't tought this was going to mean lower magika, I tought it was really looking it up to see what could be mage to even the Plainfield now that shield are going to be universal.

Also can you tell us if our finisher is being be look at ?

They aren't going to do anything about it. Why would they? They said it would be in a future PTS incremental, which appears to be this one, where they looked at the Sorcerer class and improved it. Just reroll Stam DK or something if you want good DPS...that seems to be out best option right now.

Congratulations Zenimax! You did it! Sorcerer problems fixed forever! -.- Next time actually make some meaningful changes.

code65536 · May 2016

Woeler wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Champion System
The Steed
Block Expertise:
Renamed this Champion ability to Shadow Ward.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Elusive ability from The Shadow constellation.

The Shadow
Elusive:
Renamed this Champion ability to Ironclad.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.

What the actual ***? And if you have to make this completely unnecessary change, at least move shield expert with it. This change really falls under the "If it ain't broken, lets break it!" mentality.

WTF?! This is a horrible change that nobody asked for and that nobody wants.

elven.were_wolf · May 2016

Yay! They actually listened and turned power extraction to disease damage!

SickDuck · May 2016

GoodOlPinkly wrote: »

sunshineflame wrote: »

Why all the complaints about a nerf to blocking? All I saw was in increase in block cost reduction from 30% to 36% and 1% more on your gear. That makes a potential total of 13% more reduction. Am I missing something, because that sounds like a buff.

They took our 20% from bracing and now block cost reduction is now in the Green CP tree not the Red which is WTH

So tanks can have reduced blocking cost and reduced damage at the same time? Honestly that sounds a great deal to me.

As for the Shield Expert passive... that needs rethinking with this switch I agree.

Ivan04 · May 2016

I'm sorry, but that CP change is garbage and lazy thinking. I see why you did it, but come on. Nerf well-fitted and sturdy, and stop drilling tanks already, please. Give HA at least some sort of block cost reduction.

zerosingularity · May 2016

Siluen wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Champion System
The Steed
Block Expertise:
Renamed this Champion ability to Shadow Ward.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Elusive ability from The Shadow constellation.

The Shadow
Elusive:
Renamed this Champion ability to Ironclad.

This Champion ability has been switched with the Block Expertise ability from The Steed constellation.

If I understand this correctly this seems like a rather odd change. Why move the block cost reduction from a tree that gives you bonuses for blocking with it's passives to a tree that is all about avoidance and vice versa?

... and where am I going to get all them Thief CPs from? :<

Do like the buff to Fortress and Sturdy and the room this gives for heavy armor to develop beyond just the block-cost-reduction armor.

Rather concerned about this as well. the Shield Expert passive is now in the tree no heavy armor tank would ever fill up. So to use it you need to be a medium armor tank (or a pvp tank). So while this does extend the usefulness of this passive in PvP, it can be assumed it will not see much use in PvE.

However of greater concern is moving block cost to the thief section. So to have good block cost reduction, I need to drop my magicka/stamina sustain when NOT in block. I get this causes some more thinking, but adds ALOT more micromanaging of resources. That and it makes it harder for tanks to swap to DPS when needed without redoing their CP (not cool when going for speed runs).

So what was the reasoning behind this change? Block cost reduction is a defensive passive, and probably should have stayed in the defensive trees. And now tanks will have more sustain issues than before. Sure we *might* not need much in the block cost tree if Sturdy gets fixed, but still, not sure why this was done.

Also, the Maelstrom 1-hander was NOT buffed like it should be. Why?

SorataArisugawa · May 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[...]

Sorcerer
Dark Magic
Dark Exchange: Increased the amount of health restored from this ability and its morphs by 100%.

Storm Calling
Disintegrate:
Renamed this passive ability to Implosion.

This passive ability now also grants all Physical Damage you deal a chance to instantly pulverize low health enemies, dealing additional Physical Damage to them.

Updated this passive’s tooltip to indicate what the health threshold is for it to trigger.

Energized: This passive ability now also increases your Physical Damage done in addition to the Shock Damage done.

Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): This morph now also grants the Minor Expedition buff at all times while it is active.

Surge: This ability and its morphs now restore a flat value of health whenever you deal a Critical Strike. It will now also proc on any Critical Strike instead of only direct damage Critical Strikes, but can only restore health once every second.

We don't get any bonus on the surge heal depending on the DMG???... The value of the heal better be good...

More healt from Dark Exchange wont solve the problem, just for your insight...