The guilds who end up crowning one of their own as emperor spend a majority of their time bridge and tower farming pugs for emp. Don't be hypocritical.
I don't share in the undiluted hatred of him, but he hasn't really done anything to earn fondness either; for the most part I'm apathetic. When he helps promote poor balance ideas, or says something factually incorrect and then you see it parroted by players, that's when it's an issue. That's hardly the majority of the case, in fact the majority of the time I'd say it's the opposite and he's quite correct. But not always, and sometimes those mistakes end up steering the narrative unfortunately.
As to the streaming, I don't get it, I never will ... I don't understand why people would want to watch someone else play a game they themselves could be playing. I think a small percentage of them (the people that end up donating hundreds/thousands of dollars) are in need of counseling and emotional help, but then again people will pay obscene amounts of money for front seat tickets to bieber.
Most of the 'crap' being talked about isn't so much that he's using the set, because frankly everyone is. I can't speak for anyone else besides myself, but I don't see the relevance of yet another prox+tether+VD video at this point, I just don't. Particularly if we're now on multiple videos from the same person. Sypher has a great deal of skill, but these bombs/this meta is far from skillful so I'm not sure what the point is. Melting people in < 1 second repairing a wall? In what way is that the skillful 1v1 / 1vX play he's built a reputation on? If I wasn't so adamant about playing my healer this patch I'd be running the same thing because that's what the meta is. But I see little reason to celebrate such a disgustingly broken meta, and any time people do so I feel like it sends all of the wrong signals to ww2.
Sypher can talk about wanting aoe caps gone as much as he wants, but when you post vids like this and people cheer them on, I can guarantee that wrobel is giggling while sitting at his desk next to an empty juice box thinking "see? this maybe wasn't the best idea but some players really love it and so many are using it, so it's good enough. Now we don't have to put in actual work in balancing the combat system."
I don't share in the undiluted hatred of him, but he hasn't really done anything to earn fondness either; for the most part I'm apathetic. When he helps promote poor balance ideas, or says something factually incorrect and then you see it parroted by players, that's when it's an issue. That's hardly the majority of the case, in fact the majority of the time I'd say it's the opposite and he's quite correct. But not always, and sometimes those mistakes end up steering the narrative unfortunately.
As to the streaming, I don't get it, I never will ... I don't understand why people would want to watch someone else play a game they themselves could be playing. I think a small percentage of them (the people that end up donating hundreds/thousands of dollars) are in need of counseling and emotional help, but then again people will pay obscene amounts of money for front seat tickets to bieber.
Most of the 'crap' being talked about isn't so much that he's using the set, because frankly everyone is. I can't speak for anyone else besides myself, but I don't see the relevance of yet another prox+tether+VD video at this point, I just don't. Particularly if we're now on multiple videos from the same person. Sypher has a great deal of skill, but these bombs/this meta is far from skillful so I'm not sure what the point is. Melting people in < 1 second repairing a wall? In what way is that the skillful 1v1 / 1vX play he's built a reputation on? If I wasn't so adamant about playing my healer this patch I'd be running the same thing because that's what the meta is. But I see little reason to celebrate such a disgustingly broken meta, and any time people do so I feel like it sends all of the wrong signals to ww2.
Sypher can talk about wanting aoe caps gone as much as he wants, but when you post vids like this and people cheer them on, I can guarantee that wrobel is giggling while sitting at his desk next to an empty juice box thinking "see? this maybe wasn't the best idea but some players really love it and so many are using it, so it's good enough. Now we don't have to put in actual work in balancing the combat system."
PhatGrimReaper wrote: »I'm actually intrigued by the thought of @Sypher as Emperor with his current setup. It would be kind entertaining.
It wasn't meant to try and break up ball groups just like shield breaker wasn't meant to stop shield stacking; it does however punish stacks of players like its suppose to. It causes that play style to have a risk.
I don't share in the undiluted hatred of him, but he hasn't really done anything to earn fondness either; for the most part I'm apathetic. When he helps promote poor balance ideas, or says something factually incorrect and then you see it parroted by players, that's when it's an issue. That's hardly the majority of the case, in fact the majority of the time I'd say it's the opposite and he's quite correct. But not always, and sometimes those mistakes end up steering the narrative unfortunately.
As to the streaming, I don't get it, I never will ... I don't understand why people would want to watch someone else play a game they themselves could be playing. I think a small percentage of them (the people that end up donating hundreds/thousands of dollars) are in need of counseling and emotional help, but then again people will pay obscene amounts of money for front seat tickets to bieber.
Most of the 'crap' being talked about isn't so much that he's using the set, because frankly everyone is. I can't speak for anyone else besides myself, but I don't see the relevance of yet another prox+tether+VD video at this point, I just don't. Particularly if we're now on multiple videos from the same person. Sypher has a great deal of skill, but these bombs/this meta is far from skillful so I'm not sure what the point is. Melting people in < 1 second repairing a wall? In what way is that the skillful 1v1 / 1vX play he's built a reputation on? If I wasn't so adamant about playing my healer this patch I'd be running the same thing because that's what the meta is. But I see little reason to celebrate such a disgustingly broken meta, and any time people do so I feel like it sends all of the wrong signals to ww2.
Sypher can talk about wanting aoe caps gone as much as he wants, but when you post vids like this and people cheer them on, I can guarantee that wrobel is giggling while sitting at his desk next to an empty juice box thinking "see? this maybe wasn't the best idea but some players really love it and so many are using it, so it's good enough. Now we don't have to put in actual work in balancing the combat system."
Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »
It wasn't meant to try and break up ball groups just like shield breaker wasn't meant to stop shield stacking; it does however punish stacks of players like its suppose to. It causes that play style to have a risk.
I see what your saying and somewhat agree. Shield breaker upgraded a counter to people using shields. The effect has always been in the game, "Glyph of Decrease Health". VD is another animal, it is meant to kill people that are too close together. It is not a 17k tooltip damage because it's just meant to be a risk.
The goal was obviously to get people to spread out, the risk as you say was reason enough to do so.
Let me explain why VD is such a bad idea and not doing what it is intended to do. When Wheeler went on ESO Live to address the claim that the "Lightning Patch" wasn't the reason for decreased Cyrodiil performance. He proposed another plausible reason that only the stubborn would disagree with. It wasn't the patch but the correlation of players acquiring better gear particularly gear sets that taxed the server and more players balling up.
My question is simply: Then why did they introduce another gear set that does EXACTLY what they said was causing the server issue to begin with. They wouldn't have put this in the game if it was just a risk they wanted to impose, they clearly took the chance that this would do what they requested before. For people to spread out. An admirable goal with good intentions.
The oversight is this just made for an even more powerful bomb than anyone had before. The increased damage on Proxy plus the removal of AoE damage cap would of been enough. The decreased damage against fewer plus an additional 17k bomb on top of that makes it desirable for not just small groups or solo gankers but ANY player going against another group of players. Hence why anyone Magicka spec'd is drooling over it right now. Any ability that does that much damage as an AoE is going to be used by 99% of the players.
Granted when at a clear disadvantage, you'll be able to bomb a Zerg but like most videos I have seen. Mostly against Zergs in AFK mode (which weren't the issue), but active spam casting Zergs. You'll kill a few, the rest will kill you and then revive their fallen allies. Risk? It's laughable. You get to go play horse simulator (your smile will fade as it becomes as old as riding your horse), they carry on in battle after a short chuckle at the suicide bomber(s) they just encountered.
As more people acquire the set and groups begin bombing each other. The only result is exactly what we had before. A pure numbers game. The group with the most VD explosions wins.
PhatGrimReaper wrote: »...... I would rather encourage people like him than people who threaten to leave for CU or BDO every 2 posts in these forums and who were the main cause of performances problems in the first place zerging it up.
PhatGrimReaper wrote: »...... I would rather encourage people like him than people who threaten to leave for CU or BDO every 2 posts in these forums and who were the main cause of performances problems in the first place zerging it up.
It causes me pain, but I have to agree with @frozywozy on this one!
PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »...... I would rather encourage people like him than people who threaten to leave for CU or BDO every 2 posts in these forums and who were the main cause of performances problems in the first place zerging it up.
It causes me pain, but I have to agree with @frozywozy on this one!
I think people want to leave more cause the awful lag than these type of sets... I know the lag had basically forced me into only Pvping in IC on haderus at this point as it's the pvp not lagging
zZzleepyhead wrote: »fastolfv_ESO wrote: »i wanna see the 50 failed attempts between each of these where he pops into grps that are not afk or lagged to death by the serversI don't find these videos particularly interesting... but those comments are awesome.
Ya know it's all fair to dislike Sypher, but is there a legitimate reason? I mean, you're hatin' on a guy who's success has actually sold copies of the game. At what point do you stop and reflect?
He's just a dude who streams and plays the same game you do. If any emotion at all, you should be happy that he inspires players to get better at PvP (this is indisputable). Is it jealousy? Does his fame bother you?
Does he send you 'your momma' jokes every time you log on or something? You can block him, ya know.
If a no-name player posted the same video I doubt there would be as many negative posts.
I mean...the video is titled 'Free AP' not 'still better than u in 2016 montage'Where to even start. You know you really are the cream of the crop when it comes to Sypher hate. This post is so illogical I hardly want to respond to it, but what the hell. Let's just start with... your first line. I think you're saying who "led the charge" as in he was #1. I just want to point out that was a great observation. A lot of players don't know where the leaderboards are, but you've already proven you're in the upper echelon of players by pointing this out. Or it could be "led the change" In which case you can thank him.Darnathian wrote: »yup. and who les the charge on the AP system? oh thats right the OP.
It was so funny the other day when he tried on day 2 to push emp. Literally the first time i saw him say anythimg in zone about pushing map.
immediately 3 players responded omg sypher is posting in zone about objectives.
then he begged Nait to not go ahead of him so he could get emp.
ya. good luck with that crowning. keep trying to change the game mechanics for selfish reasons
but hey you make great videos of literally ALL the cheese in the game at the time
lol. how do followers not see the cheese.
"It was funny when he tried to push emp." Well dayum! You're an easy-pleaser! Here's a real knee-slapper for ya. I tried for emp last week too xD xD xD came home from work to be 110K AP down. said, "*** it." You can write that down if you'd like.
Let's continue...
"first time i saw him say anything in zone".
Zone.. zone zone zone. O' beloved zone. If I told you my name, could you tell me you have seen me say anything about pushing the map in chat? I'll give you a hint... no jk I'll let you figure it out
PSA: YOU NEED 6 MIDDLE KEEPS FOR EMP. I'm still trying to figure why he was trying to push the map too. PM me if you figure it out though.
This is the real great part that really got me to respond to your. . uh . post.
"keep trying to change the game mechanics for selfish reasons"
Sypher 1vX with no AOE caps and dynamic ult; AOE caps implemented and dynamic ult removed; Still 1vX's - now with limited options; You're ridiculing a player who wants to remove AOE caps so he is NOT FORCED into playing this playstyle; You're probably upset with him for going over ZOS and suggesting the game would be better without AOE caps; bash him for playing the meta AOE burst or any meta build and call it cheese; and then you claim it's all for selfish reasons DESPITE ANY FACTS. Is it cheese to stack my attribute points? Is it cheese to wear armor sets? Honestly, where do you draw the line. Do you see the full circle here?
I don't share in the undiluted hatred of him, but he hasn't really done anything to earn fondness either; for the most part I'm apathetic. When he helps promote poor balance ideas, or says something factually incorrect and then you see it parroted by players, that's when it's an issue. That's hardly the majority of the case, in fact the majority of the time I'd say it's the opposite and he's quite correct. But not always, and sometimes those mistakes end up steering the narrative unfortunately.
As to the streaming, I don't get it, I never will ... I don't understand why people would want to watch someone else play a game they themselves could be playing. I think a small percentage of them (the people that end up donating hundreds/thousands of dollars) are in need of counseling and emotional help, but then again people will pay obscene amounts of money for front seat tickets to bieber.
Most of the 'crap' being talked about isn't so much that he's using the set, because frankly everyone is. I can't speak for anyone else besides myself, but I don't see the relevance of yet another prox+tether+VD video at this point, I just don't. Particularly if we're now on multiple videos from the same person. Sypher has a great deal of skill, but these bombs/this meta is far from skillful so I'm not sure what the point is. Melting people in < 1 second repairing a wall? In what way is that the skillful 1v1 / 1vX play he's built a reputation on? If I wasn't so adamant about playing my healer this patch I'd be running the same thing because that's what the meta is. But I see little reason to celebrate such a disgustingly broken meta, and any time people do so I feel like it sends all of the wrong signals to ww2.
Sypher can talk about wanting aoe caps gone as much as he wants, but when you post vids like this and people cheer them on, I can guarantee that wrobel is giggling while sitting at his desk next to an empty juice box thinking "see? this maybe wasn't the best idea but some players really love it and so many are using it, so it's good enough. Now we don't have to put in actual work in balancing the combat system."
@Sypher is one of the most important pillar keeping this game alive right now. Without his interraction through Twitch.tv , this game would not have reached the 100 000 copies sold for the past year. Not even close. You have the right to disagree with him or to not enjoy watching other people play a video game, but this is only your opinion and your interests.
At the end of the day, there are a ton of people who enjoy watching others play the game just to relax and I would rather encourage people like him than people who threaten to leave for CU or BDO every 2 posts in these forums, who were the main cause of performances problems in the first place zerging it up and who are now complaining about a meta who can actually take care people who are not being careful when balling up.
I agree that VD hits way too hard and should be scaled down on top of Proximity Det which still hit way too hard on less than 6 players, but I think this is still a way in the right direction.
Darnathian wrote: »The problem i have with this videos and the otgers like it id why wait till the are repairing? Why? Because the are defensless.
IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE CAMPAIGN.
If this is the great zerg buster then do it on the flags as they are taking keep. Not after.
There is zero skill, zero, in stealth bombing players repairing.
He is a terrific player. But dont get defensive when i speak facts that he does nothing for an alliance.
Which is fine. but dont jump alliances for the 50th time and try to take emp from someone else that will try to help them win