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[Confirmed] Cyrodiil vendors will NOT be raised to V16

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Considering that this is a pretty big deal as far as what in the world do we do with our tens of millions of AP, I feel it warrants discussion. For those of you who missed it: Wrobel dropped the bomb on ESO Live today when he stated that the Cyrodiil vendors will NOT be brought up to V16, period. Instead, the only way to get V16 PvP gear will be through Rewards of the Worthy.

His poorly articulated reasons included:

- "We don't want people to be able to just get the gear right away."
- "People have too much AP saved up."

As if that wasn't insulting enough, he mentioned the possibility of "looking into AP caps."

But that's all ok, right? It's not like the reason people have such obscene amounts of AP is literally because there is nothing to spend it all on. It's not like we didn't earn that AP and should thus be entitled to spend it on something worthwhile or anything.
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Edited by HoloYoitsu on February 13, 2016 7:43AM
  • Elong
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    Instead of caps, why don't you find us something to actually spend AP on?

    Incredible. Just incredible.
  • Minnesinger
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    Yeah that makes no news in the current status. They want people to farm DLC in order to make profit. When the game was still B2P it had much better system.
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  • Darkonflare15
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Considering that this is a pretty big deal as far as what in the world do we do with out tens of millions of AP, I feel it warrants discussion. For those of you who missed it: Wrobel dropped the bomb on ESO Live today when he stated that the Cyrodiil vendors will NOT be brought up to V16, period. Instead, the only way to get V16 PvP gear will be through Rewards of the Worthy.

    His poorly articulated reasons included:

    - "We don't want people to be able to just get the gear right away."
    - "People have too much AP saved up."

    As if that wasn't insulting enough, he mentioned the possibility of "looking into AP caps."

    But that's all ok, right? It's not like the reason people have such obscene amounts of AP is literally because there is nothing to spend it all on. It's not like we didn't earn that AP and should thus be entitled to spend it on something worthwhile or anything.
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    Yay let's get mad about something that is not final. How dare he think of something so vile that has not happen yet.
  • koby-xxrwb17_ESO
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    He never said it won't happen, they want to try and work the PvP bags into the system in a way that won't allow people who've hoarded ap to acquire all the gear the day it comes out
  • Zabus
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    Except that instead of having the v16 gear from the vendors in the rewards of the worthy, we are given new sets. Therefore we are still unable to get the gear that we want and have been asking for ages now. I mean it's not like we wouldn't have much more diversity of many of these v14 sets were scaled.. but you know ZOS rather have everyone running the same crap.

    They still fail to realize that the reason people have so much AP is that because there is literally NOTHING worth spending it on.
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  • Scamandros
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    It sounds like they want some form of a seasonal token gear system, but without having seasonal tokens because 'tokens are bad mmk'.
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  • Iyas
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    So what can I do with my aps? Its a serious question. Should i make money with akavari or wait for next patch?
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Iyas wrote: »
    So what can I do with my aps? Its a serious question. Should i make money with akavari or wait for next patch?

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  • Poxheart
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    So many bad decisions made by these developers. Kinda glad that school is taking up all my time because there's little temptation to log in.
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    And why do players have millions AP stored? Because there is nothing useful for sale.

    Just scale the jewelry to v16 and make the rest drop in rewards of the worthy, that way pvpers has something to spend their AP on.
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  • Farorin
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    Not giving us something to spend our AP on because we have AP built up from not having anything to spend our AP on... Seriously? What the literal crap kind of crap logic is that?

    Almost Unbelievable.

    Almost...
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  • Elong
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    They've dug their own hole with this. Originally there was nothing to spend AP on, so of course we accumulated it.

    Now they don't want to upgrade gear, because we have all this AP banked, because there was nothing to spend it on.

    To rub it in further, possibly capping our AP so we can't earn more?

    The icing on the cake is the well fitted end of campaign rewards.

    So what is the point of pvping?
  • davey1107
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    I don't get why they keep creating a new currency, then offering NOTHING to buy with it. I like farming AP, I like farming tel var. But why do it?

    Get your act together, ZOS. Take some of those older sets and start making them purchase-able with AP and Tel Var, leveled to the player. And none of your IDIOTIC GRAB BAG GARBAGE.

    Need an AP sink? Offer pieces of Briarheart for 100,000 AP each. I'd spend that much to get the V16 piece I'm missing. But no...you can't do that...because what would we do if we didn't have to run the same boring delves 300 times to get the armor.
  • Jura23
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    What is AP caps?
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Elong wrote: »
    The icing on the cake is the well fitted end of campaign rewards.

    So what is the point of pvping?
    Not so fast! Wrobel also took a minute to explain that Well-fitted will be a good trait now because he increased sprint speed 10%.

    I couldn't make that up if I tried.
  • Turelus
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    What gets me though is this is the argument.

    "We don't want players with loads of AP to instantly buy their gear and then be ahead of others, also having nothing to work towards"

    For most PvP players, firstly they earned that AP by staying in the game, doing PvP. They earned it so why can't they now use it?

    As for wanting to have something to work towards, most PvP players don't want to work towards gear, they want to be at their best and get back into the PvP gameplay.

    @Wrobel please stop thinking gear chasing is a fun gameplay element in PvP, the PvP itself is the fun part of the game for a PvP player. Just give them the gear they want and let them get back to enjoying the game.
    Has nothing been learned from the level of hatred that came out from IC/BoP sets? Which stopped people just having fun doing PvP because they had to spend months grinding new gear to get back to competitive levels.
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    FFS just give us something worth spending our AP on and then we won't have massive amounts of it.
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  • Master_Fluff
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    Yet another idiotic decision by the developers.
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  • Derra
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    It´s really hilarious. People have too much ap saved up because there was nothing to spend them on.
    Now we don´t give you anything to spend your ap on because you have too much saved up - which was our fault anyway.

    Now are they going to implement a goldcap too because people who made a lot of gold can buy everything they want instantly when they need it?
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  • Yuke
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    As someone who lives for the science and eveything it stands for (logic, coherency, etc), that statement almost killed me.

    I literally experienced physical pain after hearing this and also shed some tears. What a bunch of cu**s...
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  • Junipus
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    ZOS logic makes complete sense if you look at it from the perspective of making as much money as possible while giving little care to what players want.

    If you look at it from the players perspective like most normal people and devs do, then...

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  • Bashev
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    The strange thing is that PvE players were able to save their Gold keys and used them when a new set came. But we PvPers cannot do that. @wrobel s logic.
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  • Minsc
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    Yeah I wouldn't put it past them to consider gold caps ....
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    That's a really stupid idea. Just put in nice stuff this patch that we can buy and sell, and the patch after, and so on... Market will probably be flooded in the first weeks, but after that the problem will solve itself.
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  • Heindrich
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    Minsc wrote: »
    Yeah I wouldn't put it past them to consider gold caps ....

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  • Ghostbane
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    Will there be gold caps?
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