Toppling Charge is still bugged

FullBlownBeast · February 2016

Good thing for templars now, it seems charge has a 10% chance of not activating CC immunity and you can catch someone with surprise butt sex. So might bug for you or might bug for them, it's a step up from live now.

ZOS_GinaBruno · February 2016

Totally understand everyone's frustration. To be clear, the patch note for this ability isn't incorrect - we did implement some fixes to make it better - but it's just not 100% fully fixed (as noted by the OP).

Most_Awesome · February 2016

The skill needs to be re designed its as simple as that.

Hellar · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Totally understand everyone's frustration. To be clear, the patch note for this ability isn't incorrect - we did implement some fixes to make it better - but it's just not 100% fully fixed (as noted by the OP).

So can you give us something else? This skill is clearly aint gonna be fixed. I dont know why cant you just copy the CR from 2hander and give it magicka cost?! I am a templar as a main and this is really anoying.

DOES it still hit dodge roll? That should also be fixed if not already in TG

Islyn · February 2016

AriBoh wrote: »

I HAVE THE SOLUTION!!!!

Flash through the shadows LIGHT and ambush SKEWER enemy for X Physical MAGICAL Damage , stunning them for 1.5 seconds.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Why not tell them this? or the Trinimac thing?

This is just so bad - more than 1/3 our skills are stupid, bad or broken.

david.haypreub18_ESO · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Totally understand everyone's frustration. To be clear, the patch note for this ability isn't incorrect - we did implement some fixes to make it better - but it's just not 100% fully fixed (as noted by the OP).

What fixes?

Why is the Global Cool Down still part of the skill?

Preyfar · February 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Any kind of eta? Will it be fixed before the dlc goes live?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

I honestly don't know, sorry.

This exchange basically defines the templar lifestyle.

Having core skills that have been broken for well over half a year is just kind of a slap in the face. We've all been waiting for Thieves Guild to finally find out if it's fixed... and... =/ Getting discouraged.

Dread_Guy · February 2016

bikerangelo · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Totally understand everyone's frustration. To be clear, the patch note for this ability isn't incorrect - we did implement some fixes to make it better - but it's just not 100% fully fixed (as noted by the OP).

Thanks for replying, now please tell your dev team that 2 years is long enough.

Cinbri · February 2016

It works fine in duels(sometimes), but when I roaming through Cyro with pve clearing all mobs on my way - skill autocnacelling so many times that i already slotted it off. And I afraid that how skill will work(i.e. not work) in Cyro open world PvP still.

Change templar charge to Vosh Rakh solar jump. Just cut off beginning of animation with raising weapon and top high animation of jump, so we will jump only like 3m above the ground and than ported 3m above target; and speed up animation.

James-Wayne · February 2016

Don't rage at Gina for this, she's just relaying messages from Wrobel... Worbel oh where are you Wrobel, come out and play with us on ESO Live! We have questions to be answered!

Xexpo · February 2016

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2016

James-Wayne wrote: »

Don't rage at Gina for this, she's just relaying messages from Wrobel... Worbel oh where are you Wrobel, come out and play with us on ESO Live! We have questions to be answered!

I think people are just wanting @ZOS_GinaBruno to pass on their suggestions and frustration, because they are tired of things continuing the way they are. A lot of feedback has gone into this class' problems for two years, mostly ignored, while the other classes just seem to keep getting refined and chug along. All of our improvements feel a lot like nerfs. I think there was a moment when magic dps Templars got super excited about radiant destruction, and that didn't last to long. The rest of us were either upset to lose our aoe cc or just shrugged with mild disinterest as it didn't effect a stamina warriors build. The class needs help, because frankly its clunky, poorly thought out, and doesn't fit the game half as well as the other classes do. I've felt a long time that the class was an afterthought, when you consider that even the promotional videos for the game display a sorceress, a nightblade, and a dragon knight. No Templars seem evident in that video. As cool as they look in terms of artistic style, I'm feeling more and more like playing another class. My faith is almost gone.

Sugaroverdose · February 2016

Why dev's can't just replace ability logic with the same from Shield Charge -_-

_Chaos · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Totally understand everyone's frustration. To be clear, the patch note for this ability isn't incorrect - we did implement some fixes to make it better - but it's just not 100% fully fixed (as noted by the OP).

It's been two damn years, you could make the skill from scratch in that amount of time. If you can't fix it, change it. Enough is enough already!

Cinbri · February 2016

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Why dev's can't just replace ability logic with the same from Shield Charge -_-

Yes, why not to revamp it as Shield Charge, jut add some glowing disco animation to it during charge so people will see that it is templar skill, not weapon. Shield charge animation don't have such problems as templar charge, so why not. It is just that easy.
In a vote of:
1. have unique animation skill that broken and sometimes not usable.
2. have not so unique animation skill that working as intended.
I would vote for 2nd option.

Jura23 · February 2016

Why is it not 100% fully fixed? I need some explanation.

kaalmoth · February 2016

Focused Charge: This ability and its morphs are now more responsive, and will no longer cause you to become stuck in the charge animation.

Problem is, when pple read this, they are first gonna believe the whole skill was fixed, not tiny parts of the problem. Well I mean, pple WOULD think that, if it wasn't toppling charge we're talking about, a skill bugged for monthes now, who went through multiple "fixes", that nearly became a meme.
And I guess frustration isn't against gina, but I don't feel her last post is good PR material.

Ashamray · February 2016

I want the era of Jumping Trinimac Frogplars

AriBoh · February 2016

AriBoh wrote: »

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This isn't even the first time templars have had un-noted nerfs that were 'not purposely' left out of the patch notes

So nerfs left OUT the patch notes and IN the game, supposed fixes IN the patch notes that were left OUT the game?

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't get how this is okay at ZOS. It has been over a year. Sorcs get their abilities hotfixed within 24 hours while toppling charge remains broken forever.

Don't drag us into this... Why don't they just recycle the Dragon Leap animation sans the wings?

AfkNinja · February 2016

It's obvious they can't fix it, 80% of the Templar community already knew the fix wouldn't work before they even tried to implement it. Nifty called it, I called it, Blabafat called it, Joy_Division called it, Zinaroth Called it. C'mon, It is FAR FAR FAR past the point of a fix, JUST REPLACE IT!!!! 2 friggen years waiting for Templar to shine....

Essiaga · February 2016

Par.

ZOS should be embarrassed. Simply disappointing. Give away another million dollars rather then hiring a competent team fix skills and balance the game.

I think people know this is not Gina's fault and are not focusing there anger/frustration at her but at ZOS which is the company she unfortunately represents. I've been there and feel for her and all the many face of ZOS that have nothing to do with the crappy crap that the dev team craps out.

That being said anger/frustration/resentment has been well earned.

danno8 · February 2016

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't get how this is okay at ZOS. It has been over a year. Sorcs get their abilities hotfixed within 24 hours while toppling charge remains broken forever.

Don't drag us into this... Why don't they just recycle the Dragon Leap animation sans the wings?

Oh you'd love that wouldn't you Sorc?

Instead freezing all our skills or nothing happening, we can just jump off the egde of the world and fall for all eternity.

If we have to copy a skill it should be Ambush, Crit charge or Shield Charge. I'm all for a sped up version of the Trinimac leap being thrown around, but I'm also scared because I know it would take 6 months for it to get done, and another year for it to get fixed since I have no doubt we would become stuck in "heaven" on the up-jump.

myrrrorb14_ESO · February 2016

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't get how this is okay at ZOS. It has been over a year. Sorcs get their abilities hotfixed within 24 hours while toppling charge remains broken forever.

Don't drag us into this... Why don't they just recycle the Dragon Leap animation sans the wings?

Can't I keep the wings? That part really makes the ability for me.

AfkNinja · February 2016

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't get how this is okay at ZOS. It has been over a year. Sorcs get their abilities hotfixed within 24 hours while toppling charge remains broken forever.

Don't drag us into this... Why don't they just recycle the Dragon Leap animation sans the wings?

Can't I keep the wings? That part really makes the ability for me.

IDK man, a furious leap ending with an earth shattering spear thrust sounds pretty friggen awesome, doesn't need wings. I am all for this or using the NB Ambush as the base skill for animations. Dragon Leap would look so frackin cool though, I love how it shatters the earth at the landing spot.

Edit: Give it a stamina morph too please....

Dredlord · February 2016

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

But who could possibly have seen that coming?

Besides every Templar ever, I mean.

Damnit and here i thought i was actually beginning to see into the future....

Leon119 · February 2016

Trinimac jump please. It fits lorewise too. Trinimac was an Aedra so its suitable for an aedric spear skill

Soris · February 2016

IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS ALREADY. We have this since that patch removed the bots.

bikerangelo · February 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't get how this is okay at ZOS. It has been over a year. Sorcs get their abilities hotfixed within 24 hours while toppling charge remains broken forever.

Don't drag us into this... Why don't they just recycle the Dragon Leap animation sans the wings?

Can't I keep the wings? That part really makes the ability for me.

IDK man, a furious leap ending with an earth shattering spear thrust sounds pretty friggen awesome, doesn't need wings. I am all for this or using the NB Ambush as the base skill for animations. Dragon Leap would look so frackin cool though, I love how it shatters the earth at the landing spot.

Edit: Give it a stamina morph too please....

It'd definitely fit with "Explosive Charge." The WW gap closer also has a similar animation/mechanic without the ground-shattering CC, since we're on the subject of shopping for a new gap closer that actually works. And yes, on the subject of unrealistically wishful thinking, a stamina morph would be nice.