This thread is pointless. Haddy has been worse off since this thread started y'all go back to whatever sever you were on before.

Rylana wrote: »

Our goals in Haderus are pretty simple: Good fights in smaller scale, getting people emp that have never had the opportunity or wanted another run since reign might have been cut short, and getting practice/AP vs larger encounters. Most of my raids dont contain many of the core/elite membership, they usually play on Azuras. You will also rarely, if ever, see us running anywhere near 20 unless its last emp keep or about to be. (or when we are trying to crown an emp vs decent resistance, like tonight vs Fengrush and co, I think we had 17 after AD was dethroned)

@Rylana

Let me just say that DIG's goals are pretty much the very same. When we determine where to play we consider:
Good Fights
Small to Medium Scale PVP (cause who wants to herd 2+ raids)
LAG is a very important consideration
A chance to introduce new players to PVP and/or Emp someone who has never had it.

Since I played on Friday from 10pm onward (assuming it was still good prime time based on equal bars), I can say that while DC lacked something to take back inner keeps, all factions respected the (3) home keep rule.

AD was generally soft. EP not so much.
Running into the big groups, despite coordinated, you could actually plan an attack and wait for the right moment. (Like hit tgetails or yank reinforments.

EDIT: NVM I see that there is a smaller normal group and then the crazy pugs, nothing you can do about that just like nothing we can do about it on the yellow side.

Rickter wrote: »

That whole "EP will respect home keeps as long as Jamicka is emperor" comment needs further clarification like "unless DC has their scrolls" because DC home keeps were certainly flipped from the time of that writing and DC scrolls are now owned by non other than EP.

That's a given. You should expect at least pugglies to pvd those scrolls. The keep protection policy is so that no faction should be camping the last three keeps keeping low pop sides from making moves.

It's a game, and despite it modeling warfare, no one will venture to a campaign if 10+ groups watch the gates day into night. It kills the fun.

With that said, EP emp group has not been seen (at least by me) staying on rayles/warden/glade killing off each random 3 man group trying to take back those keeps. Applause for that!

Also congrats to EP for finally winning on score, that never happens anymore. New cycle beginning soon. Same pledges same rules as far as I am concerned.

GoS pledges to adhere to no tri-keeps rules and to try to keep groups under 10 unless last two emp keeps or sizeable opposition numbers necessitate it.

Rylana wrote: »

Also congrats to EP for finally winning on score, that never happens anymore. New cycle beginning soon. Same pledges same rules as far as I am concerned.

GoS pledges to adhere to no tri-keeps rules and to try to keep groups under 10 unless last two emp keeps or sizeable opposition numbers necessitate it.

Agreed. See you on the playing field.

nugelhoffub17_ESO wrote: »

@Rylana

Last night the reds that were pushing and holding fare did have the emp in the group. Hopefully moving forward it will be true that the emp does not do so. Interesting that blue have pushed out and red still remains firmly planted at fare at the moment. This should be an interesting week as it seems more pugs are running in Haderus.

I will be pledging DiG to the gentlemen's agreement to not hold tri-keeps and you will see smaller groups from us all around, save for Friday night as mentioned previously.

I heard you didnt like our nasty BRK front door surprise where i called dets right as the door went down and we charged you before you could stack.

>=] unconventional warfare, mwa hahaha

pvdoor those keeps EP

keep it real

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

I make no promise other than when i lead your AP will become my AP

So should we all assume that this experiment is over as this appears to be the GM of GoS?

nugelhoffub17_ESO wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

I make no promise other than when i lead your AP will become my AP

So should we all assume that this experiment is over as this appears to be the GM of GoS?

I dunno, Zaz rarely ever leads during the week, and when he does lead its usually on Azuras star or very late at night. (he might start a group before work, and turn it over to someone else daily, but long term leading? weekends mostly)

Im usually leading in US prime time. Ive agreed to the thread, but hey, Zaz is GM, if hes running the show that night hes running the show.

Well this took an awkward turn.

To everyone out there. I think that its great that Haderus is getting some much needed attention, but at the same time too much of a good thing might be hurting the server in the long run. Zazeer has been leading some epic groups for the reds and showing us some tactics that I've never seen and I'm always left speechless when he does so and crushes at keeps. It is really eye opening at how far my group has come and in a lot of respects how far we have to go. I've said it before and I'll say it again but you can't get better if you don't play the best and it looks like the best has shown up to hold a clinic for the yellows and blues. Unfortunately, this has brought a ton of other reds to the server; red was pop-locked last night from the get go and neither blue nor yellow could match it. The result at the moment is the reds wiping everything in sight. Well this in and of itself is no reason to get down, it is having an unintended side effect -- mainly that it might be killing the server.

I have been in talks with both blues and reds and finally got a fairly strong blue guild to come over to Haderus and give it a go this week. It has been awhile since Haderus has had all three factions so well represented and the three ways when they unfold are showing glimpses of how great Haderus could be for PvP. I am afraid if reds keep their foots on the throat of yellow and blue that neither of those sides will stay and then Haderus is just a red held dead server. I cannot imagine that such a thing would be fun for any parties involved and is certainty not needed to get small scale PvP to happen, as many have been willing to come to the table (here in the forums and more importantly in game). My hope in writing this post is to reach out and hopefully get red to back down a bit so that the great guilds that have come to Haderus don't just up and leave, I would just hate to squander such a great opportunity for everyone. I know that I for one have respect for the skill level displayed by many of the reds that have shown up and its been fun learning from each and every encounter that we've had with them. Anyway, it is some food for thought.

Cheers!

Americanfunguy wrote: »

That was my guild. We only had 12 people on, one hell of a zerg, no?

I meant the amount of AD around the backflag of the keep. And the group on the bookcase on top of that

nugelhoffub17_ESO wrote: »

To everyone out there. I think that its great that Haderus is getting some much needed attention, but at the same time too much of a good thing might be hurting the server in the long run. Zazeer has been leading some epic groups for the reds and showing us some tactics that I've never seen and I'm always left speechless when he does so and crushes at keeps. It is really eye opening at how far my group has come and in a lot of respects how far we have to go. I've said it before and I'll say it again but you can't get better if you don't play the best and it looks like the best has shown up to hold a clinic for the yellows and blues. Unfortunately, this has brought a ton of other reds to the server; red was pop-locked last night from the get go and neither blue nor yellow could match it. The result at the moment is the reds wiping everything in sight. Well this in and of itself is no reason to get down, it is having an unintended side effect -- mainly that it might be killing the server.

I have been in talks with both blues and reds and finally got a fairly strong blue guild to come over to Haderus and give it a go this week. It has been awhile since Haderus has had all three factions so well represented and the three ways when they unfold are showing glimpses of how great Haderus could be for PvP. I am afraid if reds keep their foots on the throat of yellow and blue that neither of those sides will stay and then Haderus is just a red held dead server. I cannot imagine that such a thing would be fun for any parties involved and is certainty not needed to get small scale PvP to happen, as many have been willing to come to the table (here in the forums and more importantly in game). My hope in writing this post is to reach out and hopefully get red to back down a bit so that the great guilds that have come to Haderus don't just up and leave, I would just hate to squander such a great opportunity for everyone. I know that I for one have respect for the skill level displayed by many of the reds that have shown up and its been fun learning from each and every encounter that we've had with them. Anyway, it is some food for thought.

Cheers!

That what it was last night, viable small man defense at ales farm. With a nice possible EP counter (they were on the flag but it was still anyone's game). Then out of nowhere it turned into 1:3 odds with a complete zerg of Aleswell.

Literally the urge to pvp died.
Glad there's talk of a larger guild from DC able to partake and help keep the large fight groups entertained. Major props for coordinating too.