Temporary Small-Scale PvP Solution - Let's Agree to Make Haderus a Small Scale PvP Zone

Gilliamtherogue

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

>12 man group
>blob
I guess trial groups are considered blobs? We fought plenty of large groups that were easily twice our size. Stop acting like your group is the only one in Cyrodiil. Order of Mundus pvp's every monday at 8pm to 12 am cst, anything after that is just people in Mundus who are doing what you're doing, playing the game. PvP politics are so absurd.

Nifty2g

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

Gilliamtherogue

Nifty2g wrote: »

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

100% this. People act like the entire world revolves around them, their schedule, and their opinions. Top kek.

Rylana

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

You fought us at Ash front door before the crowning Nifty. You know exactly how many people my "zerg" had as we engaged you 5v4. Yeah, literally five people. All we kept saying in TS is we couldnt believe we were actually going to crown, with just five people. Every keep had some people defending it, Roebeck had about 10 AD. Every other red on the server, and it wasnt many, were screwing around at sej and faregyl. Lo and behold, 20+, and by the last two keeps 30+ DC show up right after. Most of them the same people I had seen six-seven hours prior turtled in chalman before we finally busted that. it was pretty obvious your guild left to come back to try a nightcap when no one was on to stop it.

So bringing 5x numbers is status quo I suppose? Wasnt even a fun defense, hell I lost my second to last keep (brk) still alive on that flag to a force-flip by sheer volume of bodies.

All you did was siege down walls and stack bodies with heals. Hell you had more healers than we had people. Overkill? Id say so. Hence why i dont care about this "agreement" to play fair. Im done with it.

Nifty2g

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

You fought us at Ash front door before the crowning Nifty. You know exactly how many people my "zerg" had as we engaged you 5v4. Yeah, literally five people. Lo and behold, 20+, and by the last two keeps 30+ DC show up right after. Most of them the same people I had seen six-seven hours prior. it was pretty obvious your guild left to come back to try a nightcap when no one was on to stop it.

So bringing 5x numbers is status quo I suppose? Wasnt even a fun defense, hell I lost my second to last keep (brk) still alive on that flag to a force-flip by sheer volume of bodies.

All you did was siege down walls and stack bodies with heals. Hell you had more healers than we had people. Overkill? Id say so. Hence why i dont care about this "agreement" to play fair. Im done with it.

you realise that during your emp push all pop had 2 bars after you got crowned it all slowly died down.

again, this game doesn't resolve around you i don't even know about any type of deal and honestly sounds weird, it's pvp people zerg and people do small groups and people solo. you can't please everyone, people do what they please.

and no my guild wasn't even in there, we grabbed pugs from some trials guild, when you got emperor we got a group together. the same people you seen were probably 3 people everyone logged off.

night capping isn't a thing just because it doesn't fit your schedule, it is an mmo people play at all times of the night. this whole discussion is pretty sad it's not as if you wont be able to never get emp ever again.

really though it was just someone going for emperor on haderus which happens all the time, just your typical day

Rylana

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

You fought us at Ash front door before the crowning Nifty. You know exactly how many people my "zerg" had as we engaged you 5v4. Yeah, literally five people. Lo and behold, 20+, and by the last two keeps 30+ DC show up right after. Most of them the same people I had seen six-seven hours prior. it was pretty obvious your guild left to come back to try a nightcap when no one was on to stop it.

So bringing 5x numbers is status quo I suppose? Wasnt even a fun defense, hell I lost my second to last keep (brk) still alive on that flag to a force-flip by sheer volume of bodies.

All you did was siege down walls and stack bodies with heals. Hell you had more healers than we had people. Overkill? Id say so. Hence why i dont care about this "agreement" to play fair. Im done with it.

you realise that during your emp push all pop had 2 bars after you got crowned it all slowly died down.

again, this game doesn't resolve around you i don't even know about any type of deal and honestly sounds weird, it's pvp people zerg and people do small groups and people solo. you can't please everyone, people do what they please.

and no my guild wasn't even in there, we grabbed pugs from some trials guild, when you got emperor we got a group together. the same people you seen were probably 3 people everyone logged off.

night capping isn't a thing just because it doesn't fit your schedule, it is an mmo people play at all times of the night. this whole discussion is pretty sad it's not as if you wont be able to never get emp ever again.

really though it was just someone going for emperor on haderus which happens all the time, just your typical day

read the thread youre posting in, it will explain the deal we had going on. Our guild has intentionally ran small most of the time to try to appease the blues calling for it to make the server competitive and NOT an azuras 2.0 garbage truck.

Ever since we started doing that, its been exactly that, with DC usually being the real culprit bringing stack barriernado azura clones instead of keeping their end of it. Even AD was getting better at keeping the zerging to a minimum except on Fridays when DiG said bets were off as it was their PvP night. Hell it was DC that made this thread.

So next time you see GoS running 16-24 going forward, do not dare complain. Im over it. If you happen to have five guys that get obliterated by a blob of GoS 20 deep, so sorry, remember last night. Im not handicapping us anymore to make DC feel better about themselves. All theyve done is stack numbers since the agreement was made.

Nifty2g

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

You fought us at Ash front door before the crowning Nifty. You know exactly how many people my "zerg" had as we engaged you 5v4. Yeah, literally five people. Lo and behold, 20+, and by the last two keeps 30+ DC show up right after. Most of them the same people I had seen six-seven hours prior. it was pretty obvious your guild left to come back to try a nightcap when no one was on to stop it.

So bringing 5x numbers is status quo I suppose? Wasnt even a fun defense, hell I lost my second to last keep (brk) still alive on that flag to a force-flip by sheer volume of bodies.

All you did was siege down walls and stack bodies with heals. Hell you had more healers than we had people. Overkill? Id say so. Hence why i dont care about this "agreement" to play fair. Im done with it.

you realise that during your emp push all pop had 2 bars after you got crowned it all slowly died down.

again, this game doesn't resolve around you i don't even know about any type of deal and honestly sounds weird, it's pvp people zerg and people do small groups and people solo. you can't please everyone, people do what they please.

and no my guild wasn't even in there, we grabbed pugs from some trials guild, when you got emperor we got a group together. the same people you seen were probably 3 people everyone logged off.

night capping isn't a thing just because it doesn't fit your schedule, it is an mmo people play at all times of the night. this whole discussion is pretty sad it's not as if you wont be able to never get emp ever again.

really though it was just someone going for emperor on haderus which happens all the time, just your typical day

read the thread youre posting in, it will explain the deal we had going on. Our guild has intentionally ran small most of the time to try to appease the blues calling for it to make the server competitive and NOT an azuras 2.0 garbage truck.

Ever since we started doing that, its been exactly that, with DC usually being the real culprit bringing stack barriernado azura clones instead of keeping their end of it. Hell it was DC that made this thread.

So next time you see GoS running 16-24, do not dare complain. Im over it.

Like I said I didn't even know this thread existed nor do I care for it someone wanted help for an emp push who has never had it before so I went to help out.
I don't care if I see GoS running with 16-24. Why would that bother me? I run in large group when I pvp cause I like that more in ESO seems like it was designed for that so I run with VE in Azuras (not lately because lag and 1.6 was my favorite pvp)

Not to mention don't forget that Haderus gets a lot of PvE player attention for whatever reason, so really this agreement wont be game wide as most people don't visit the forums.

Takllin

Rylana Angry! Rylana Smash!

Because a few DC speak for the whole faction, amirite?

Goes back to my original point. It was enjoyable while it lasted.

Rickter

@Rylana

idk which DC you originally had the agreement with, was it @Mystikkal ? what was his guild? Requiem is very much ok with small scale. in fact, we as a guild have taken steps to promote small scale play. Our numbers have always been subject to guild interest however, but i can assure you we dont usually run in groups larger than 14. occasionally and especially over the weekends we may have a full 24 but thats like Saturdays.

last night we rolled 8 people. that grew to 12 AFTER 12am est but we were at Alessia Farm having an enormous three way duke out. in fact, if it werent for Fengrush's group, we wouldve been out gunned.

People who arent bothered by zerging are either A) benefiting the most from it or dont pvp very much. Rylana kind of pisses me off, but I respect GoS as a pvp guild. They dont cheese that much, and tbh, every pvp guild is guilty of cheese. *cough* rapid regen ap cheese *cough* so its whatever. GoS currently and has in the past provided very good fights, since Chillrend really. many pvpers gravitate towards small scale grouping because the fights are just better. more strategic, requires smarter play and players to know their characters very well. thats why you see the focus and gravitation towards it.

@Rylana what you have to understand, is with this new server cycle, a lot of DC guilds migrated to Haderus to escape Azura's. Theyve been talking about it since Axe of Belharaz was introduced if not longer. so it happened. I liked the idea, like i said on page 8, very admirable indeed. but its a dream. do what you have to do i suppose. dont cheat. but do what you have t o do. my guild has been working on how to deal with zergs. its making us better players. so idk, bring it?

FENGRUSH

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Well new cycle of haderus. Nonwithstanding the fact my fourth reign came and went today as emp, the whole day was kind of a joke. The fact blue kept intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take BRK back from yellow, and yellow intentionally interfering with any attempt for red to take back chalman from DC was just appalling. Its like Azuras 2.0 now in fricken prime time, get your goddamned zergs out of here.

Its pretty clear the smaller group mentality is gone. Sure youll see a sixpack of fengrush and co on occasion, hell we crowned me emp with five members of GoS at roebeck. Just around 3am EST. (blue had died down, but yellow still had some decent size numbers, a little late, but wasnt pvdoor at least)

But.... over the course of the day, I saw a literal 40 man DC blob in prime at chalman, at least 50 AD take BRK at one point, my group running anywhere from 5-15 through most of it. Why in the blue hell are your two factions stacking that many people in keeps? Wasnt it you guys that bitched to holy heaven about GoS running 12-15 sometimes? And youre bringing fricken FORTY?

I mean be real, AD with 50 guys, DC with about 40 guys, ganging up on red with maybe 30 total guys (less than half being GoS). 90 v 30? Yeah, real classy. Zerg more please? jesus.

But what really got me.... the blue blob known as order of mundus that showed up at literally 8am eastern to crown their emp vs four (at one point five) GoS defenders. 20 of them, really? GoS pushed the ring in aussie/west coast primetime with less than half of that. We stayed true to the deal to keep groups small, i didnt even all-call the guild or anything. But you bring a whole raid, at that time of morning? WTF?

Um. Do we have to start fielding full groups all the time again? Cause apparently taking the moral high ground and limiting our group size (especially in off-hours) is just hamstringing ourselves. Both AD and DC seem to liberally apply the "stack as many as you can on a flag and spam steel tornado and barriers just like we do on azuras guise" mentality all around the clock. WHINE WHINE ITS ONLY BAD WHEN YOU DO IT, ITS FINE WHEN WE DO IT THREE TIMES WORSE.

Im getting pretty sick of it, and im done giving out handicaps. if i see a single or double, im just gonna zerg it down now, i really dont care anymore. Tonight really pissed me off.

@Rylana actually order of mundus only pvp on monday nights, apart from the 3 guys who stayed up and played all day to help our friend get empress for the first time, we let you guys get emperor as that's what you do so you can have your little fun, and I assume your zerg left when you got it as they do.
Then we literally got together a pug group of 19 to be exact, 21 at one point of people we hardly knew and asked them to come help, there was barely any calls in teamspeak or anything no one knew what to do the siege was incredibly slow.

The guys that came help were majority all Australian as it was 10pm our time there apart from the empress who literally got it, went into sewers and went to bed.

Haderus has always been the Emperor flipping server and always will be, that's why people home it and do that sort of thing you see it all the time. It's filled with PvErs.

Sorry but this post is just too funny, it doesn't matter what time of day it is it, it is always time for other people to play somewhere else, just because it doesn't fit your schedule doesn't mean anything.

You fought us at Ash front door before the crowning Nifty. You know exactly how many people my "zerg" had as we engaged you 5v4. Yeah, literally five people. Lo and behold, 20+, and by the last two keeps 30+ DC show up right after. Most of them the same people I had seen six-seven hours prior. it was pretty obvious your guild left to come back to try a nightcap when no one was on to stop it.

So bringing 5x numbers is status quo I suppose? Wasnt even a fun defense, hell I lost my second to last keep (brk) still alive on that flag to a force-flip by sheer volume of bodies.

All you did was siege down walls and stack bodies with heals. Hell you had more healers than we had people. Overkill? Id say so. Hence why i dont care about this "agreement" to play fair. Im done with it.

you realise that during your emp push all pop had 2 bars after you got crowned it all slowly died down.

again, this game doesn't resolve around you i don't even know about any type of deal and honestly sounds weird, it's pvp people zerg and people do small groups and people solo. you can't please everyone, people do what they please.

and no my guild wasn't even in there, we grabbed pugs from some trials guild, when you got emperor we got a group together. the same people you seen were probably 3 people everyone logged off.

night capping isn't a thing just because it doesn't fit your schedule, it is an mmo people play at all times of the night. this whole discussion is pretty sad it's not as if you wont be able to never get emp ever again.

really though it was just someone going for emperor on haderus which happens all the time, just your typical day

So next time you see GoS running 16-24 going forward, do not dare complain. Im over it. If you happen to have five guys that get obliterated by a blob of GoS 20 deep, so sorry, remember last night.

Damn this has already been happening to me since forever - what special privileges did you other *** have?!

Rickter

fights have been AWESOME on haderus tonight

Erynyes

Hush! Don't want anymore AZ refugee But yeah this cycle is awesome so far

Zander98

@Rylana

Ry....you miss the whole point. This is the first true PVP campaign thread I've seen since the "Chillrend: DB 2.0" Thread.
All real PVPers. Jokes, smack talk, and server talk.
Miss the target, hit the bulls-eye baby.
An attempt is better than not trying. And you guys are making the game look fun again if nothing else.
So....there's that.

Rickter

Rylana

Three way poplocked, lag at times in the 2k range. Is this Azuras? Also, the 3 raids of yellow pushing BRK incessantly all evening was.... seriously the real reason it was lagging so hard. Not just 3 raids, 3 stacked raids.

Ugh.

Rickter

Rylana wrote: »

Three way poplocked, lag at times in the 2k range. Is this Azuras? Also, the 3 raids of yellow pushing BRK incessantly all evening was.... seriously the real reason it was lagging so hard. Not just 3 raids, 3 stacked raids.

Ugh.

if you look at my screenshot it was EP and AD pop locked with DC at TWO bars.

Rylana

Rickter wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Three way poplocked, lag at times in the 2k range. Is this Azuras? Also, the 3 raids of yellow pushing BRK incessantly all evening was.... seriously the real reason it was lagging so hard. Not just 3 raids, 3 stacked raids.

Ugh.

if you look at my screenshot it was EP and AD pop locked with DC at TWO bars.

DC has been poplocked today for about 4-5 hours, yesterday they did as well.

FMonk

Blaze Fyrdemonium (+86) (255.5s) - 745,131 Total Damage (2916.5 DPS)

From fighting the AD zerg at Nickel tonight. That's 86 players, no guards, the keep was blue the whole time.

Scamandros

Just a couple of mates

Rylana

FMonk wrote: »

Blaze Fyrdemonium (+86) (255.5s) - 745,131 Total Damage (2916.5 DPS)

From fighting the AD zerg at Nickel tonight. That's 86 players, no guards, the keep was blue the whole time.

Preposterous, isnt it? Thats the kinda blob red was fighting at BRK yesterday. Yeah blue has a lot, too, but like half that or so.

I dont just make numbers up, when I say three stacked raids I mean it.

Xexpo

Haven't been able to even play in Haderus the last two nights
We'll switch to Trueflame if you zergs promise to stay on Haderus (or Azura's)

We don't even need a 'small scale' server as much as we need one that isn't zergged-to-funkin-death,
please can we have just one playable server?
You all can make Haedrus = Azura's 2.0, thats fine,
just stay there and leave the civilized folks to their mostly lag free pvp.


@Scamandros how do you guys play in this ?

Do you have to stack three raids because you can't take keeps otherwise (besides day capping) ?
It is possible you know, you don't actually need three raids... unless ofc you are terrible... then I suppose I could understand your confusion.

Also underneath the zergging, is some pretty obvious emp flipping... rip Haderus

heystreethawk

Pretty sure Aeryj requires 0 raids to go about his business

Also known as an unstacked raid

Scamandros

kaer426 wrote: »

Haven't been able to even play in Haderus the last two nights
We'll switch to Trueflame if you zergs promise to stay on Haderus (or Azura's)

We don't even need a 'small scale' server as much as we need one that isn't zergged-to-funkin-death,
please can we have just one playable server?
You all can make Haedrus = Azura's 2.0, thats fine,
just stay there and leave the civilized folks to their mostly lag free pvp.


@Scamandros how do you guys play in this ?

Do you have to stack three raids because you can't take keeps otherwise (besides day capping) ?
It is possible you know, you don't actually need three raids... unless ofc you are terrible... then I suppose I could understand your confusion.

Also underneath the zergging, is some pretty obvious emp flipping... rip Haderus

Thats just my addon, only affects enemies.

Haderus has been my playground for sometime now, before the tf migration, before the 'small scale agreement'. Those late night pvdoor groups were juicy points

Xexpo

Scamandros wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Haven't been able to even play in Haderus the last two nights
We'll switch to Trueflame if you zergs promise to stay on Haderus (or Azura's)

We don't even need a 'small scale' server as much as we need one that isn't zergged-to-funkin-death,
please can we have just one playable server?
You all can make Haedrus = Azura's 2.0, thats fine,
just stay there and leave the civilized folks to their mostly lag free pvp.


@Scamandros how do you guys play in this ?

Do you have to stack three raids because you can't take keeps otherwise (besides day capping) ?
It is possible you know, you don't actually need three raids... unless ofc you are terrible... then I suppose I could understand your confusion.

Also underneath the zergging, is some pretty obvious emp flipping... rip Haderus

Thats just my addon, only affects enemies.

Haderus has been my playground for sometime now, before the tf migration, before the 'small scale agreement'. Those late night pvdoor groups were juicy points

I also see you in the middle of all the banana zergs gf

Scamandros

There is just one big banana, and it is me

OdinForge

*** Haderus, that is all.

Rickter

see you all in trueflame!

FENGRUSH

Haderus has finally become the small scale PVP server we always needed

Manoekin

FMonk wrote: »

Blaze Fyrdemonium (+86) (255.5s) - 745,131 Total Damage (2916.5 DPS)

From fighting the AD zerg at Nickel tonight. That's 86 players, no guards, the keep was blue the whole time.

Bro that's just 20 Sorc pet builds with 6 engine guardian procs. Less than a full raid.

Ezareth

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Haderus has finally become the small scale PVP server we always needed

What does @FENGRUSH know about small scale on Haderus? Every time I run into you its balls deep in a ball group! There were easily 20 blues running around with you last night! That group caused the AD to form into larger and larger zerg which is why the performance on the campaign took a nosedive.

There was the Hektik red ball rolling around, two different blue balls and just a giant blob of yellow that I couldn't distinguish from a ball group or just a PuG black hole that sucked up every potato in the campaign.

I had about 3 fights the entire night that didn't get me zerged down by a random choo choo.