Temporary Small-Scale PvP Solution - Let's Agree to Make Haderus a Small Scale PvP Zone

Mystikkal

We are all excited about the upcoming PvP changes, including objectives in IC and battlegrounds/arenas. In the meantime, maybe the PvP community can band together to help us create the enjoyable PvP experience that many of us seek. Can we all agree to make one of the campaigns (e.g. haderus since it's the least populated) a small scale pvp zone? Group size is limited to 8. No one sieges any inner keeps, only keeps around the IC circle.

I understand groups of 8 may merge from time to time in the middle of battle, but we won't have ball groups of 15+. Just imagine how much fun that would be. The larger guilds can operate in AZ and have their massive scale PvP.

Can people tag @ names for guild leaders? Let's give it a shot as a community!

P.s. I understand that this will be hard to enforce. But many small scale pvpers are leaving this game and we need to work together as a community to create an enjoyable experience for all, including those that don't want to play in large groups.

~Mystikkal

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Rust_in_Peace

but how will I level my EP toon on my buff server :~~~~~~~(

Mystikkal

By grinding mobs like the rest of us? haha. Aren't Cyrodill buffs only given for when you are in Cyrodill?

mike.eso

I completely on board with this, unfortunately I'm solo most of the time and don't have much pull in my faction (EP), I'll try and grab a couple of friends tonight and see what we can do on our end to make this happen.

Turtl3Lov3

Mystikkal wrote: »

We are all excited about the upcoming PvP changes, including objectives in IC and battlegrounds/arenas. In the meantime, maybe the PvP community can band together to help us create the enjoyable PvP experience that many of us seek. Can we all agree to make one of the campaigns (e.g. haderus since it's the least populated) a small scale pvp zone? Group size is limited to 8. No one sieges any inner keeps, only keeps around the IC circle.

I understand groups of 8 may merge from time to time in the middle of battle, but we won't have ball groups of 15+. Just imagine how much fun that would be. The larger guilds can operate in AZ and have their massive scale PvP.

Can people tag @ names for guild leaders? Let's give it a shot as a community!

P.s. I understand that this will be hard to enforce. But many small scale pvpers are leaving this game and we need to work together as a community to create an enjoyable experience for all, including those that don't want to play in large groups.

~Mystikkal

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

The concept of limiting groups to 8 players can sadly be easily worked around if an organized guild wishes to consume juicy AP in mass proportions without the lag of the full server through TS coordination.



LOVE THE TURTLE

mike.eso

@OdinForge, Bring back CKA to Had and make this happen.

Mystikkal

@Crown @Manoekin @Sypher @Lefty_Lucy @FENGRUSH You guys wanna try to get some traction on this?

Manoekin

Mystikkal wrote: »

@Crown @Manoekin @Sypher @Lefty_Lucy @FENGRUSH You guys wanna try to get some traction on this?

I'll try and direct people there for that style of play. Not sure what much else I can do.

Mystikkal

Manoekin wrote: »

Mystikkal wrote: »

@Crown @Manoekin @Sypher @Lefty_Lucy @FENGRUSH You guys wanna try to get some traction on this?

I'll try and direct people there for that style of play. Not sure what much else I can do.

Why don't we get some experienced PvP'ers to agree to lead some 8 man PUG groups? Not always, but zergs often form because people are looking for others to play with. I run a team often (get-rekt), but I'll try to put together some 8 man PUG groups on Haderus over the next few days. Maybe some other folks can do the same?

The big thing that guild leaders can do is support of the idea of having a small scale pvp server. They can do that by creating awareness / encouraging their guilds to go there with groups of 8. They can also agree not to form huge zergs on that server. Would be great to get buy in from guild leaders across the game. Honestly, I don't pay much attention to guilds (no way to really id them), so I'm hoping others can tag relevant leaders in this post to help create awareness.

Minno

Might need to call up omg pwned. Him and a large portion of AD have been pvdooring all keeps violating the "(3) enemy home keep minimum unwritten rule" used to help jump start campaigns.

Manoekin

As nice as it would be, I can't abandon my guild to go lead 7 pugs, or half my guild to only take 7 with me. It may be something that happens on an off day when I'm not busy with other things, but that's rare. It's something I'll be able to mention to people who would be interested in doing it regularly,though.

Minno

Manoekin wrote: »

As nice as it would be, I can't abandon my guild to go lead 7 pugs, or half my guild to only take 7 with me. It may be something that happens on an off day when I'm not busy with other things, but that's rare. It's something I'll be able to mention to people who would be interested in doing it regularly,though.

I'd have to agree there. Can't be everywhere at once.

But a good mention will go a long way. Thanks!

mike.eso

Dang @Mystikkal, I really thought this would get a better response based on how many people claim to want small scale pvp. I'll do what I can on the EP side of things. Hopefully people will stick around even if we continue to get zerged down, see y'all out there.

RinaldoGandolphi

Minno wrote: »

Might need to call up omg pwned. Him and a large portion of AD have been pvdooring all keeps violating the "(3) enemy home keep minimum unwritten rule" used to help jump start campaigns.

@Minno

I'd be game to help get a few guys together get some pugs out of zone, try and farm some resources and get some small scale fights

Next time i see Pwned on, i'll see whats up. He is a cool guy, he just wants PVP like everyone else, I would be surprised if he wouldn't be interested in jump starting the campaign.

Manoekin

ButteredToast_M wrote: »

Dang @Mystikkal, I really thought this would get a better response based on how many people claim to want small scale pvp. I'll do what I can on the EP side of things. Hopefully people will stick around even if we continue to get zerged down, see y'all out there.

It is a week day :P

Corellon Thromorin

Isn't it easier to add random towns and stuff to do around cyrodiil so people actually have a reason to explore it?
Like quests to convince a town occupied by survivors to join your faction, giving you points and stuff. Quests to retrieve artifacts that were lost in cyrodiil, even quests to defeat enemy faction general npcs that are attacking a town or on a outpost.

Minno

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Might need to call up omg pwned. Him and a large portion of AD have been pvdooring all keeps violating the "(3) enemy home keep minimum unwritten rule" used to help jump start campaigns.

@Minno

I'd be game to help get a few guys together get some pugs out of zone, try and farm some resources and get some small scale fights

Next time i see Pwned on, i'll see whats up. He is a cool guy, he just wants PVP like everyone else, I would be surprised if he wouldn't be interested in jump starting the campaign.

Ah OK. I'll take back my comment then. Was worried last night because AD was in full force when it was obvious both DC and EP were dead.

frozywozy

I'm all up for different campaigns with different max group sizes. I have been praising this for a long time.

hammayolettuce

I would love to see this. I pretty much only go to haderus solo or with one or two other people and it certainly seems to be the best campaign for that. I think the issue is getting the larger guilds to stay out when they have full raids and fights on the other campaigns have dried up.

Unfortunately, asking players to self-police like this is pointless because there's always gonna be someone who doesn't wanna play that way, and then someone else who wants to counter them and it snowballs until we have another Azura.

Mystikkal

Manoekin wrote: »

As nice as it would be, I can't abandon my guild to go lead 7 pugs, or half my guild to only take 7 with me. It may be something that happens on an off day when I'm not busy with other things, but that's rare. It's something I'll be able to mention to people who would be interested in doing it regularly,though.

Fully agree. As you know, the zerg blobs can ruin the experience for those that enjoy smaller scale pvp. So that's why I'm proposing this alternative. I have nothing against you not being able to participate. I understand you want to play with your guild. Although, it could be fun to have your guild split up into separate groups of 8 and go on different missions! May be a good change of pace.

So long as guild leaders don't bring zergs, I think we will be in good shape. We just need help getting people to agree to the idea.

Thanks!
Myst

Glarin

I'll get my officers together and talk about moving there with Fantasia. Idk if we will come, we have a lot of fun on Trueflame.

OdinForge

ButteredToast_M wrote: »

@OdinForge, Bring back CKA to Had and make this happen.

CKA and her Knights are down to coordinate this from an EP perspective, we've been trying to keep small scale on Haderus for some time but with little luck. AD just rolled through the server last night with 3 raids or something.

Guild Lead: @OdinForge
Faction: EP

Rust_in_Peace

Just checked Had on my EP character earlier and once again the AD pushed EP back all the way to their gates.

Minno

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Just checked Had on my EP character earlier and once again the AD pushed EP back all the way to their gates.

Team red-blue versus the elf-scourge!

Mystikkal

Many of us are frustrated by the zergs, but this post is not meant to try to disrespect them. It's just a request that they respect others preferance for smaller scale pvp, by staying on aura or TF. This post is also meant to try to stimulate small scale pvp by giving those like-minded players a home.

Mystikkal

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I would love to see this. I pretty much only go to haderus solo or with one or two other people and it certainly seems to be the best campaign for that. I think the issue is getting the larger guilds to stay out when they have full raids and fights on the other campaigns have dried up.

Unfortunately, asking players to self-police like this is pointless because there's always gonna be someone who doesn't wanna play that way, and then someone else who wants to counter them and it snowballs until we have another Azura.

I agree it will be hard to completely rid the server of zergs, but if an occasional zerg comes through, that's certainly better than only zergs. I encourage folks to kindly ask zergs to slim down to 8 or move to another server. Just explain what our goal is in a nice way. I suspect many group leaders will respect the request.

heystreethawk

This is certainly a very cool idea! I hope people give it enough time to see if it catches on; I think it's something that would go a long way toward alleviating present frustrations in Cyrodiil, and it would be a great environment for players looking to improve on their playstyle. Mid-to-large groups could benefit from a night of splitting off and narrowing their focus too -- rain check on that 5v5 you proposed last night, for sure.

Mystikkal

heystreethawk wrote: »

This is certainly a very cool idea! I hope people give it enough time to see if it catches on; I think it's something that would go a long way toward alleviating present frustrations in Cyrodiil, and it would be a great environment for players looking to improve on their playstyle. Mid-to-large groups could benefit from a night of splitting off and narrowing their focus too -- rain check on that 5v5 you proposed last night, for sure.

Thanks for the support. lol, I've asked like 10 people for 5v5's, got so frustrated from no one agreeing that I made this post lol. Hope to see you out there!

Ishammael

Myst,

Bryn was telling me about this post. Lemme see if I can a group together. Would love to do this!

Forestd16b14_ESO

So wait Haderus is the place for duel ? Cause I been looking for dueling spot for the past 3 days.

BigTone

Well theres a group of reds about 20 strong right now...good luck with that