DPS sucking and Tank sucking so you end up being main dps/tank and healer and carrying the group through the whole dungeon..

Or dps/tank ignoring the adds that stun/cc the healer over and over...really annoying..

Then get blamed for group whiping...

yake82 wrote: »

Two things: Ranged dps who is out of aoe heals and tunnel vision dps who ignore boss mechanics for gold key. (Nuking Nerien'eth for example)

BUT

What really annoys me is the players who try fulfill 2 roles. Practically this is always the healers. Healers are there to heal, not dps. Do your job. I *hate* to see beams n sh*t coming out from healer.

My motto is this:
Always focus on your own role 100%. Then, if the party performs badly, you get say that it was other peoples fault, because you did your own job. Being a jack of all trades and master of none is burden to the group.

I play 70% of the time as DPS on my mNB and 30% on my Templar healer. I think It is a lot more complicated than this.
When on my DPS i know that I am doing quite a bit of healing just by killing stuff. A lot of builds can provide a bit of group or self healing and it is quite nice.

I do agree though that the jesus beaming Templar is one freaking annoying as hell picture.I hate to see it as dps and I very rarely use it as a templar.. You want to provide minor sorcery? Ok cool, the nice spamable non channeled pretty cheap dawn's wrath abilities are over there. Unless in a trial or with pretty tight known group Jesus beam is out and it actually cuts my DPS when healing.

When healing I do quite a bit of dps though. Mainly Spear spamming and Reflecting light/LA weaving . It works nice enough and it also grant minor sorcery continuously.

Also as opposed to what others have said the spears are there for everyone unless otherwise stated . If you can get some benefit from synergiser and undaunted command be my guest. I know I will pick the idle spears when I'm dpsing because the templar should be able to keep them coming. I know I can .

Another point for templars. Repentance is not something you should use only if there is Stam DPS. It is a Skill that YOU SHOULD USE ALWAYS. Thanks for giving me the ability to block a few times in a fight on my mag builds.

What I hate when healing though is of course bad sorcs and generally dps with no AOE


OH. and I forgot. I hate it both on dps and heals.

Tanks that don't get a sniping move on. You are the guy that should charge.Charge ffs. I actually understand DPS going first instead of tank. I do it sometime just because the freaking tank decided to take a nap or alt tabbed to watch some pr*n in between pulls.

Tanks that charge 3 pulls ahead are also annoying and unfortunately most tanks are in these two categories.

DPS who constantly stand in red (because red is life, right? \o/ )

DPS who decides to play ring-around-the rosie on the boss, get in front of the boss and insta-die. Sure, the tank faced the boss away for no reason, yeah it's safe for you to go there. *sigh*

DPS getting tunnel-vision on boss and not taking out the mobs if needed.

DPS getting tunnel-vision once more (surprise!!) and not rezzing the other DPS mentioned at no. 1. I don't mind rezzing them myself one bit but then if I stop spamming heals they die.

Tank deciding to go full-DPS mode and losing aggro on the boss all the time. Look - if you can't pull if off, pls just stick to tanking?

The first thing I hate:

- Players stating that I HAVE TO USE REPENTENCE (or any other spell). I'm mature enough to make my own build, and if I find that repentence is not suitable for my build, that mean I've a good reason for it. Now, we can of course have a debate about what's spell are better and so on, but maybe not in the Dungeon. Instead of instantly judging someone because of his spells, wait that this person play. AND THEN complain if the job is not done properly. Not BEFORE
- People that RUSH. I hate rush. I like enjoying the content.
- Poeple that use EXPLOIT, and not only believe that it's fine to use that strategy, but also that everyone know that strategy. And then when you try to play the "normal way" they are like "you didn't know that you had to stack in this corner, and wait for the boss to bug?"
- When there is no one to heal and i'm forced to do "DPS" to do something.

I usually prefer to play with newbie players than elitist players for those reasons. I prefer to wipe and struggle in a fight because players make mistakes than to have know-it-all ruining my fun, imposing their own vision of how you should play, and abusing exploits and methods to play as fast as possible.

I'm not doing Dungeons to farm gear, CP, XP, or gold. I'm going in Dungeons because I enjoy to do Dungeons and to heal poeple. I enjoy a real challenge. And as healer, I enjoy to heal. So I don't mind DPS to stand in the fire and tank to be squishy. That allow me to shine at my role.

but not to worry, i'm usually not pugging, so you will not be grouped with me by mistake.

When i get in a group through group finder, and the DPS keep dying because they stand in AoE.

So i tell them i cant heal them through one shot mechanics, and they need to move around to mitigate damage. Usually the response is good, but sometimes the DPS tell me its more important for them to keep dpsing.

How much damage are you doing as a corpse, bro? Lol.

Kammakazi wrote: »

Curious.

tbh when I run dungeons its normally with my guild and we are all on the same page on what is going on. but for us it tends to be 2 ppl trying to steal agro from each other so swapping between the two to keep them alive can be frustrating haha. but that's about it for me. unless one person takes the mobs and runs away with them starts to die and I have to run back and forward between them and the boss area haha

zornyan wrote: »

People that stand in stupid, had one pug run in CoA where the two dps (with Yolo 14k hp) decided it was a good idea to not stand on the platforms and instead on the inbetween sections getting constantly pummeled by lava.

Oh and my favourite, tanks that can't tank, had one tank that had a ballser 19k hp, blamed me for him dying to boss attacks...

lol did he use food buffs? cus I think with food buffs my Templar has 22k+ hp using a blue one if that's the case he shouldn't tank haha

DD's in Darkshade stood in red on their own whilst everyone else is moving in the Healing Springs then they call you a crap healer.

I didnt got any Flames about my Healing since i have my 5. Piece Spellpower Cure. People start asking herself if they are the Problem and not the Healer with a lot succesful vWGT Runs

pvp, my group leader charging into combat, dashing away, and only option to compensate the distance is using stamina to run, making it unable to use ability's and losing a drain on your stamina.

yake82 wrote: »

What really annoys me is the players who try fulfill 2 roles. Practically this is always the healers. Healers are there to heal, not dps. Do your job. I *hate* to see beams n sh*t coming out from healer.

My motto is this:
Always focus on your own role 100%. Then, if the party performs badly, you get say that it was other peoples fault, because you did your own job. Being a jack of all trades and master of none is burden to the group.

This shows that you don't understand the healer role in ESO at all. If your healer isn't contributing to the group DPS, your healer is doing it wrong, pure and simple. There are loads of attack skills that have support components (providing buffs to group members and such), and a good healer will use at least one or two of them. Aside from that, a good healer doesn't waste resources on over-healing (well, unless he's taking advantage of that one set that gives bonuses for over-healing), so when healing isn't needed and any buffs don't need to be refreshed yet, the healer should be throwing out attacks instead of just standing there like an idiot doing nothing. Sometimes these attacks will be skills (which, as already mentioned, may provide buffs as well), sometimes they'll be resto staff heavy attacks that restore the healer's magicka (and, incidentally, also provide a heal to a nearby ally), but either way if your healer isn't throwing out attacks when his heals aren't needed, then your healer has no idea what he's doing.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

having a dragon knight dps.

DK has to be worst class right now.

I have seen some stamplars put out massive damage.

squishy nightblades.

people who refuse to join group chat (ps4) you need to at least listen for bosses

I cant stand getting rolled over by some stupid warlock in pvp. just why cant templars win anything in pvp.

templars need a dps buff and maybe a heal nerf to balance.

self sustain people! me doing no dps because i have to spam BOL the whole raid is boring AF.

GET VIGOR YOU NIGHTBLADES

I ran with someone in a DPS magicka DK in vCoA just recently, we did it under 20minutes, because of that magicka DK. The only death we had was because of me (the healer), when we skipped the ads at the beginning of the pledge and we had to jump to that waterfall. Other than that he (and the other dps) killed the bosses even before they can do anything-- Valkyn Skoria can't even complete his dialogues. lol.

I'm well aware that DKs aren't the strongest DPS class, not to mention they have been nerfed badly this time, but in capable hands, I'd say DKs are awesome.

To answer the OP, what annoys me as a healer, is not much about people standing in read circles, or low dps, or tanks not taunting, it's when people tell you "Where's the heal?" and blame you for their deaths, when there is no amount of healing anyone can do to help save their lives because they are not avoiding damage in the first place. I understand my role as a healer is to make sure everyone is alive (other than of course, the million other things I need to do as well, like making sure everyone is buffed, managing everyone's resources, etc), but as a dps or tank, you're also responsible to play smart. I will never blame a dps if they have low damage output or a tank that missed a taunt or two, I do my best to compensate. I'm not perfect, I make stupid mistakes too, but I don't go around blaming others for my death.

PBpsy wrote: »

Another point for templars. Repentance is not something you should use only if there is Stam DPS. It is a Skill that YOU SHOULD USE ALWAYS. Thanks for giving me the ability to block a few times in a fight on my mag builds.

Not only that, Repentance's passive gives you Magicka regen when slotted. No mana cost, free heal/stam, magicka regen, just a perfect skill, IMO.

Curragraigue wrote: »

Same as what others have said the person who stays in AoEs and makes no attempt to move and expects you to be their personal pocket healer. I can be a little more forgiving of tanks if they are otherwise doing their job but the DPS that run with less than 20k health and pull this stuff drive me crazy and are the reason why I am always apprehensive before the first fight with a PUG dungeon run.

I don't care if it is the tank or not I nag them to stay out of stupid regardless...and the tank I usually run with nags me to change my outfit all the time in return