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Which class do YOU feel is UNDERpowered?
Uneed2Stop
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I want to hear your opinions on if you think any class is underpowered compared to the rest
Edited by Uneed2Stop on October 31, 2015 8:27PM Which class do YOU feel is UNDERpowered? 175 votes
Dragon Knight
39%
69 votes
Templar
23%
41 votes
Nightblade
8%
14 votes
Sorcerer
8%
14 votes
None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknesses
18%
32 votes
Everything is overpowered and im a crybaby who needs to L2P and everything should be nerfed
2%
5 votes
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesPlayed right, they are all pretty well balanced (almost). True, DK could use some love, but they are still very formidable.0 -
Uneed2Stop✭✭✭Dragon KnightPlayed right, they are all pretty well balanced (almost). True, DK could use some love, but they are still very formidable.
Yea i agree. Dragon knights were pretty amazing before but with all the nerfs idk man. Some moves just dont seem that usable and most of the same moves are on other WORLD skill trees. Of course i still love my dk but your right they could use a little love.0 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭Dragon KnightI used to be a DK God, like....
But then I took an Nerf arrow in the knee...Edited by Van_0S on October 31, 2015 8:47PM16 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragon KnightYurtTheSilentChief wrote: »I used to be a DK God, like....
But then I took an Nerf arrow in the knee...
Use to have a blow torch but now we have a bic lighter.5 -
Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭Dragon KnightYurtTheSilentChief wrote: »I used to be a DK God, like....
But then I took an Nerf arrow in the knee...
Awsome! So true... not for me, I was never a DK, but they have been messed with. Other than that though it's all pretty good imo!
I've just started on a DK so will have a better feel for them soon.1 -
Conquers✭✭✭✭Dragon KnightI'm a console player and didn't follow nerfs pre-launch, what about dk was nerfed so bad?Edited by Conquers on October 31, 2015 8:59PMVR 16 Orc Stamina Dragonknight
We need a loot currency system in this game!
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usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesI put neither.
I think all classes right now are in pretty good spots.
HOWEVER, I think certain roles have been gimped to absolute oblivion. Tank, to be straightforward about it. Primary role for DK, secondary role for Templar. This role has been hammered so incredibly bad that it's almost not even worth it. The only redeeming factor is I can go into game and type V16 Tank LFG and get a group within 5 seconds.Edited by usmcjdking on October 31, 2015 9:02PM0331
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DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragon Knightusmcjdking wrote: »I put neither.
I think all classes right now are in pretty good spots.
HOWEVER, I think certain roles have been gimped to absolute oblivion. Tank, to be straightforward about it. Primary role for DK, secondary role for Templar. This role has been hammered so incredibly bad that it's almost not even worth it. I can go into game and type V16 Tank LFG and get a group within 5 seconds.
Pvp bro...mag DK is broke.0 -
usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesDUTCH_REAPER wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »I put neither.
I think all classes right now are in pretty good spots.
HOWEVER, I think certain roles have been gimped to absolute oblivion. Tank, to be straightforward about it. Primary role for DK, secondary role for Templar. This role has been hammered so incredibly bad that it's almost not even worth it. I can go into game and type V16 Tank LFG and get a group within 5 seconds.
Pvp bro...mag DK is broke.
While they certainly aren't very good at all, I wouldn't say they are broken. They are mostly gimped versus certain abilities which overperform (cloak, cleansing ritual, purge, sorc shields).0331
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everything is overpowered and im a crybaby who needs to L2P and everything should be nerfedThe Dragonknight needs help:( poor class.
Templars too. All they can really do is spam jabs and try to outlast by spamming heals:(3 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragon Knightusmcjdking wrote: »DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »I put neither.
I think all classes right now are in pretty good spots.
HOWEVER, I think certain roles have been gimped to absolute oblivion. Tank, to be straightforward about it. Primary role for DK, secondary role for Templar. This role has been hammered so incredibly bad that it's almost not even worth it. I can go into game and type V16 Tank LFG and get a group within 5 seconds.
Pvp bro...mag DK is broke.
While they certainly aren't very good at all, I wouldn't say they are broken. They are mostly gimped versus certain abilities which overperform (cloak, cleansing ritual, purge, sorc shields).
I can see your point with that. Yes magic DK are definitely gimped.0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesIm a say none, lots of builds counter other builds. However if you duel, magicka dk needs help. Stamina dk's are still good.
I hate the dueling scene, probably the reason so many of these terrible nerfs happend to begin with.
People who stack 100% damage are to blaim. No build variety these day's.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on October 31, 2015 10:55PMPS4 NA DC0 -
mr_wazzabi✭✭✭✭✭
✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesUneed2Stop wrote: »I want to hear your opinions on if you think any class is underpowered compared to the rest
Underpowered for what?
Nightblades are underpowered for soloing craglorn and ic, but are one of the best in pvp.
Templars are the ultimate solo class.
Be more specific.Bosmer Stamina NB
Altmer Magicka TEMP
Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
Altmer Magicka NB
Breton Magicka Sorc
Redguard Stam Sorc
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Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragon KnightMagicka DKs need some love and the majority of Stamina DKs are using 2-3 class abilities at most. The class needs some help.0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭No vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.1 -
Speely✭✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesNo vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.
Interesting. I would be interested in some elaboration upon this point if you don't mind. I sort of agree, but would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.0 -
usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesDUTCH_REAPER wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »I put neither.
I think all classes right now are in pretty good spots.
HOWEVER, I think certain roles have been gimped to absolute oblivion. Tank, to be straightforward about it. Primary role for DK, secondary role for Templar. This role has been hammered so incredibly bad that it's almost not even worth it. I can go into game and type V16 Tank LFG and get a group within 5 seconds.
Pvp bro...mag DK is broke.
While they certainly aren't very good at all, I wouldn't say they are broken. They are mostly gimped versus certain abilities which overperform (cloak, cleansing ritual, purge, sorc shields).
I can see your point with that. Yes magic DK are definitely gimped.
Just a word of advice. First thing to ask yourself in a nerf/buff thread if you are weak in PVE & PVP. If the answer is no to either one, then the issue isn't the class itself, there are mechanics that are seriously hindering your ability to perform.
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭No vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.
Interesting. I would be interested in some elaboration upon this point if you don't mind. I sort of agree, but would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
DK was originally designed with dynamic ulimate generation and hybrid builds in mind, but was never fully updated after the removal of softcaps and dynamic ult gen. So I think it's about bringing it up to date with the current state of the game.
For example NB and Magicka Sorc have a lot of overall loadout synergy within their skill kits. DK lacks that overall cohesion (outside of Magicka DK in PVE).
So it's not just about being underpowered and needing larger numbers on skills. It's about giving a more meshed set of skill choices that complement each other.3 -
Speely✭✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesNo vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.
Interesting. I would be interested in some elaboration upon this point if you don't mind. I sort of agree, but would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
DK was originally designed with dynamic ulimate generation and hybrid builds in mind, but was never fully updated after the removal of softcaps and dynamic ult gen. So I think it's about bringing it up to date with the current state of the game.
For example NB and Magicka Sorc have a lot of overall loadout synergy within their skill kits. DK lacks that overall cohesion (outside of Magicka DK in PVE).
So it's not just about being underpowered and needing larger numbers on skills. It's about giving a more meshed set of skill choices that complement each other.
Good point. The move from softcaps to no-softcaps/static Ult gen really did impact DKs more than other classes. I would love to see their skills and passives reworked accordingly to bring them up-to-date. I feel that Templars are in a good spot right now, though. They are not nearly as impacted by the changes.0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭No vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.
Interesting. I would be interested in some elaboration upon this point if you don't mind. I sort of agree, but would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
DK was originally designed with dynamic ulimate generation and hybrid builds in mind, but was never fully updated after the removal of softcaps and dynamic ult gen. So I think it's about bringing it up to date with the current state of the game.
For example NB and Magicka Sorc have a lot of overall loadout synergy within their skill kits. DK lacks that overall cohesion (outside of Magicka DK in PVE).
So it's not just about being underpowered and needing larger numbers on skills. It's about giving a more meshed set of skill choices that complement each other.
Good point. The move from softcaps to no-softcaps/static Ult gen really did impact DKs more than other classes. I would love to see their skills and passives reworked accordingly to bring them up-to-date. I feel that Templars are in a good spot right now, though. They are not nearly as impacted by the changes.
Templars are certainly in a better place, but they are middle ground between DK and the rest. Bumping DK up would make them the new bottom. I think rather then just let them stand at that point, it's better to elevate them slightly as well and sure up areas they lack in. Somewhere between molbility, damage mitigation and at more direct CC.0 -
Speely✭✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesNo vote option really reflects my opinion. I think both DK and ti a lesser extent Templar need to be updated. I don't so much find them underpowered as I find them out of date.
Interesting. I would be interested in some elaboration upon this point if you don't mind. I sort of agree, but would like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
DK was originally designed with dynamic ulimate generation and hybrid builds in mind, but was never fully updated after the removal of softcaps and dynamic ult gen. So I think it's about bringing it up to date with the current state of the game.
For example NB and Magicka Sorc have a lot of overall loadout synergy within their skill kits. DK lacks that overall cohesion (outside of Magicka DK in PVE).
So it's not just about being underpowered and needing larger numbers on skills. It's about giving a more meshed set of skill choices that complement each other.
Good point. The move from softcaps to no-softcaps/static Ult gen really did impact DKs more than other classes. I would love to see their skills and passives reworked accordingly to bring them up-to-date. I feel that Templars are in a good spot right now, though. They are not nearly as impacted by the changes.
Templars are certainly in a better place, but they are middle ground between DK and the rest. Bumping DK up would make them the new bottom. I think rather then just let them stand at that point, it's better to elevate them slightly as well and sure up areas they lack in. Somewhere between molbility, damage mitigation and at more direct CC.
Maybe ONE of those things, yeah (mobility, mit, CC.) Given our insane healing and group support abilities, I think anything other than baby steps and/or small, incremental changes in this sense could overpower us. My easy fix: Just give us back Blinding Flashes. Done
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Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭This poll doesn't really work since cp can effectively make any class good if you have enough of it.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Speely✭✭✭✭None, all classes are equal having their own strengths and weaknessesThis poll doesn't really work since cp can effectively make any class good if you have enough of it.
Assuming equal CP, however high, the classes can still be weighed against each other quite sensibly.Edited by Speely on November 1, 2015 1:49AM0 -
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I dont know that that is even true when you factor in the diversity of skill combos on top of cp diversityTome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Tome of Alteration Magic II - The Manual of the Deceiver: A Beginner's Guide to Thieving
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everything is overpowered and im a crybaby who needs to L2P and everything should be nerfedNerf the universe!!!ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)1 -
jhharvest✭✭✭Everything is overpowered and im a crybaby who needs to L2P and everything should be nerfedI feel like the overall class and skill power balance is out of whack. Crazy power spikes and some completely unusable skills. It would all need to be comprehensively re-examined. I wouldn't comment on any particular class or skill without detailed statistics on their current performance though.1
