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Text chat for my console ESO

So I love how they tried to justify not having text chat on console on a previous eso live (Episode 16) and from watching them you can't help but believe that they almost believe that its a bad idea not to have it as well lol

It starts at 1 hr 5 min and 42 seconds

https://youtu.be/5N17KZ_ZCK0?t=1h5m42s

I do see a bit of a problem with text chat missing that no one seems to have touched on.

When your player base is currently using alternatives outside of the game to perform certain tasks, then there is an apparent need for features that offer this functionality in game. Earlier today, I saw a post on the ESO subreddit where someone was having trouble getting groups on Xbox One and one of the recommendations was to have Internet Explorer snapped with the LFG website open in it. With text chat in game, grouping, selling and asking simple questions would be much more convenient and keep people spending more time in game rather than on the internet posting in for sale threads or checking looking for group listings.

There are entire websites and forums set up to supplement missing (text chat) or poorly implemented features (grouping tool/guild vendors). Most players simply don't want to camp wayshrines and/or stand around in cities endlessly yelling into their mics in hopes that someone will happen to hear them, want to group up, buy what they may be selling or sell what they happen to be looking for. They should be out questing or farming materials while occasionally typing in a chat box that reaches far more people than proximity chat or stationary guild traders ever will. I know if I built a game, I would prefer people actually play than stand around asking random passer-by's. There simply isn't anything fun about that.

Another downside to proximity chat is that a majority of people are likely turning it off or tuning out simply because of the "noise" associated with it. I've heard household arguments, babies crying, eating, annoying music/sound effects, etc. The first thing I do when stepping foot in any busy city is leave proximty chat.

The justification they give is hilarious because no one uses a laptop or wireless keyboard while sitting on the couch, right? Also note that they repeatedly say there will be no text chat 'at lauch'. At least that leaves some hope this decision can be reverted later.

If nothing else, not having text chat has pretty much made the market or trading useless for me. First time I played an MMO where the Market did not have any value...

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mrdaveqc wrote: »

They Will not add text chat simple because xone can not support keyboard[...]

...... I use keyboard in Neverwinter all the time when I play it.

Are all anti-text chatters getting this transparent with their lies, or is this a standout? Anyone can go on an Xbox One and prove that wrong just by using the Xbox One's built in internet browser with a keyboard.
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They're pretty much ignorant, just read there past posts, it's filled with Ignorance nonsensical arguments that have little relevance.

Itchyness wrote: »

Using something they already have in game, I think having the quick chat emotes customizable would help drastically. As of right now, there are hardly any of them that I use. If we can customize some of them to say what we are more likely to say at least, I believe that would solve some of the problems.

Example: last night, I was in front of city of ash door. I was in a group with one other and noticed that there were 2 more people standing around. Apparently they were grouped together and I tried to communicate to them that we should merge our groups. I got on the mic and asked if they wanted to merge parties. No answer. Asked again. Nothing. Then I tried quick chat for "group up". Nothing. That's when I found 2 stragglers walking around and invited them. As we were walking in, one of them finally response with the "yes" emote. And the entire time I was on mic and everything else, they were jumping and slashing and all. Just couldn't invite them cuz it stated that they were already in a party.

I think if we had customizable quick chat, I would've put something like "looking for a group" at least. That'll let everyone else know that I need a party. Some of the quick chat are utterly useless to use, like the self congratulate one. Just shows off your e-peen, especially with a pug, even if u meant it jokingly.

Still not as good as Text Chat. There hasn't been one good excuse even from the developers about Text Chat.

Zusia211 wrote: »

Also made me laugh cause really your reason is cause people playing on couch?

yo man, I heard there was this new invention out that people put in front of there couch, I hear it's amazing and revolutionary. Also good for Coffee.
Proof.

Maybe they will say something at the QnA tomorrow about it. The fact that they are allowing new threads and polls on the subject is positive atleast.

Hopefully they were just putting off addressing it until IC was close to ready.

But I'm not holding my breath

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Bleakraven wrote: »

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Itchyness wrote: »

Using something they already have in game, I think having the quick chat emotes customizable would help drastically. As of right now, there are hardly any of them that I use. If we can customize some of them to say what we are more likely to say at least, I believe that would solve some of the problems.

Example: last night, I was in front of city of ash door. I was in a group with one other and noticed that there were 2 more people standing around. Apparently they were grouped together and I tried to communicate to them that we should merge our groups. I got on the mic and asked if they wanted to merge parties. No answer. Asked again. Nothing. Then I tried quick chat for "group up". Nothing. That's when I found 2 stragglers walking around and invited them. As we were walking in, one of them finally response with the "yes" emote. And the entire time I was on mic and everything else, they were jumping and slashing and all. Just couldn't invite them cuz it stated that they were already in a party.

I think if we had customizable quick chat, I would've put something like "looking for a group" at least. That'll let everyone else know that I need a party. Some of the quick chat are utterly useless to use, like the self congratulate one. Just shows off your e-peen, especially with a pug, even if u meant it jokingly.

This is something I can support fully.

If I can change a couple and display them, why not just give full text chat? It would just make it cumbersome to hold a conversation with another person via text because you'd have to constantly go back and edit your emotes.

an emote isn't for a complete conversation...the emote is to queue an interaction.
Remember, I'm not for text chat overall. The customized radial chat to me is very ideal and would possibly allow up to 8 diff customized pre-set options with the ability to change on the fly but the point of the emote is to queue a behavior, interaction or voice conversation.

Its not meant to replace voice chat but it could serve to alleviate issues brought up by those who do want a full blown text chat box and zone chat as well.

presets still not as good as text chat.

text chat come on ZoS add it to console, make it minimizable, make it semi transparent when not in use, make it in the lower left corner of the screen where looted items shows up in text chat.

add a battle tab to show damage done and healing done as well :P

I wanted to report back I went through all the different font that I see. Email/quest text/menus and I was able to read all of them from 8 feet away without issue.

The email chat seemed to be the most useful of all the current fonts to be text chat on the XBOX. I would still be concerned on how big the text box would have to be to say fit the same amount of text you get in a standard PC MMO. Maybe it is relative so it wont matter?

Lets also say I am not using a keyboard. Is there another option like Xbox glass that I can take advantage of? How would scrolling work with the controller? Would it be I open the text box or choose to focus on it then get to use the right thumb stick to scroll up and down?

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Zusia211 wrote: »

Also made me laugh cause really your reason is cause people playing on couch?

yo man, I heard there was this new invention out that people put in front of there couch, I hear it's amazing and revolutionary. Also good for Coffee.
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Counter to this idea is a two year old. good luck with that.

I have been playing this game since Early Closed Beta. From then until about 5 or 6 months after launch, I never used Text Chat. I also did not join any Guilds and only sold to in game vendors. I played this game about as Solo as you can play it, only Ad Hoc Grouping (where you tend to run with someone without being grouped with them). I was not into the Social Aspect of it at all.

However once I got the idea in my head that interacting with the other players might have some benefit and could be fun, I dove into Text Chat full bore and now I have friends all over the place in the game, became a recruiter for a guild I am in and have found some nice bargains in zone chat, and was able to swap some Ambrosia Fragments for what i needed to get my recipe. I can respond to and help a guild mate with some difficult content, I can ask for help. This is nothing that anyone does not know, it is just illustrating my changing view on socializing in an MMO.

I was never against Text Chat, it was just something I did not feel the need to use at first. However, my mom has this game now for the PS4, she is 72, and I was watching her play the game and showing a few pointers. All the time the area voice chat was going on. I could not make heads or tails of what was being said. I can not figure out how I would sell something to the zone, or ask for help, or talk to a Guild Mate about something with the Voice chat that is in place now. This is not from anyone being rude or something, just a babble of voices with no clear direction as to who said what. Even if I had happened to over hear someone who needed something or was selling something how would I find them? Give a shout out? Who would respond? The one I wanted or someone else for good or nefarious reasons?

As for being in the thick of things and then trying to type in a message, no, you can't. I can't on the PC, I would not expect anyone on the consoles to do that either. Even the Quick Chat method has some limitations, but can suffice for the few things that do need to be said in a battle. However we are not always in a battle, sometimes we stop our character in a safe place and say what we need to say. Or I am in a town and have all the time in the world to compose a message.

This game, and any MMO really, needs a way to have a target conversation with some or all the people in a zone or area, as someone sees fit. Without it, the game can never what it was intended to be, TES with Friends. Even if one does not use it, it can, or should be able to be, hidden so it will never bother you.

Also, Voice Chat is really makes Groups better. It might be fun for other things, but having run groups while on Team Speak and running groups not being on TS, I would have to say that Voice makes grouping better, but Text Chat is how you find that group.

TL/DR Both Platforms need Voice Chat, for Groups, and both platforms need Text Chat for everything else. Area Chat? I could do without that myself, but I can see how others would like it. I would certainly turn off AC on my game.

Nestor wrote: »

I have been playing this game since Early Closed Beta. From then until about 5 or 6 months after launch, I never used Text Chat. I also did not join any Guilds and only sold to in game vendors. I played this game about as Solo as you can play it, only Ad Hoc Grouping (where you tend to run with someone without being grouped with them). I was not into the Social Aspect of it at all.

However once I got the idea in my head that interacting with the other players might have some benefit and could be fun, I dove into Text Chat full bore and now I have friends all over the place in the game, became a recruiter for a guild I am in and have found some nice bargains in zone chat, and was able to swap some Ambrosia Fragments for what i needed to get my recipe. I can respond to and help a guild mate with some difficult content, I can ask for help. This is nothing that anyone does not know, it is just illustrating my changing view on socializing in an MMO.

I was never against Text Chat, it was just something I did not feel the need to use at first. However, my mom has this game now for the PS4, she is 72, and I was watching her play the game and showing a few pointers. All the time the area voice chat was going on. I could not make heads or tails of what was being said. I can not figure out how I would sell something to the zone, or ask for help, or talk to a Guild Mate about something with the Voice chat that is in place now. This is not from anyone being rude or something, just a babble of voices with no clear direction as to who said what. Even if I had happened to over hear someone who needed something or was selling something how would I find them? Give a shout out? Who would respond? The one I wanted or someone else for good or nefarious reasons?

As for being in the thick of things and then trying to type in a message, no, you can't. I can't on the PC, I would not expect anyone on the consoles to do that either. Even the Quick Chat method has some limitations, but can suffice for the few things that do need to be said in a battle. However we are not always in a battle, sometimes we stop our character in a safe place and say what we need to say. Or I am in a town and have all the time in the world to compose a message.

This game, and any MMO really, needs a way to have a target conversation with some or all the people in a zone or area, as someone sees fit. Without it, the game can never what it was intended to be, TES with Friends. Even if one does not use it, it can, or should be able to be, hidden so it will never bother you.

Also, Voice Chat is really makes Groups better. It might be fun for other things, but having run groups while on Team Speak and running groups not being on TS, I would have to say that Voice makes grouping better, but Text Chat is how you find that group.

TL/DR Both Platforms need Voice Chat, for Groups, and both platforms need Text Chat for everything else. Area Chat? I could do without that myself, but I can see how others would like it. I would certainly turn off AC on my game.

Hmmm an endorsement for text chat from an official source, could an announcement be incoming?

Text chat might be coming to console?


Hmmmmm.