Console text chat discussion II

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  • Hope499
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    Okay...so, we all want text chat.

    Everyone knows now....we know it, they knot it, our dog knows it.

    Do we really need 2k posts a day about it?
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  • Nergie4242
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    Hope499 wrote: »
    Okay...so, we all want text chat.

    Everyone knows now....we know it, they knot it, our dog knows it.

    Do we really need 2k posts a day about it?

    Until ZOS actually get down from the ivory tower and talk to us about it. Yes. Yes we do.
    You give me a chat box ZOS and I'll start giving you my money again.
  • cerrudo33
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    The problem en large is that we have a young game on console so in general, people as a whole are focused on quality of life improvements whereas the elder PC community is starved for content and is very likely tired of hearing about chat.

    Really there is no excuse to not have the OPTION to use text in game if someone wants to... It is a pressing concern for consoles since we have plenty of content... All of this dissention between for and against text, PC vs console, is that the other parties are worried that focus on one topic would detract from the others concerns...

    Tldr: want to clean up community/forums about text? Give a real ZOS response one way or the other but hopefully more then "Soon"
  • Eriquito3
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    Why are you calling me a troll?
    If you don't understand something I've wrote ask for clarification

    I don't need clarification of what you typed. I understood and said it makes no sense. Implying that your excuse to beING against text chat is ui clutter, while mmo's have a way that you can either minimize or remove text chat from the ui all together. It makes zero sense to be against text chat when it has a remedy to your issue.

    So please stop trying to derail and troll these topics.

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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Eriquito3 wrote: »

    I don't need clarification of what you typed. I understood and said it makes no sense. Implying that your excuse to beING against text chat is ui clutter, while mmo's have a way that you can either minimize or remove text chat from the ui all together. It makes zero sense to be against text chat when it has a remedy to your issue.

    So please stop trying to derail and troll these topics.

    Do you have any clue of what's being discussed vs what's already been scrapped and responded to by Zenimax as No?
    I'm trying to help all of you who want text chat and not derail or argue.

    Go here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199830/console-should-text-chat-be-implemented-with-the-ic-patch#latest

    The mods had this closed and are closing all other topics and sending the discussion to the link above.
    While I'm not for the feature I'm actually trying to help your side of the discussion out
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 4, 2015 8:19PM
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  • Eriquito3
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    Do you have any clue of what's being discussed vs what's already been scrapped and responded to by Zenimax as No?
    I'm trying to help all of you who want text chat and not derail or argue.

    Go here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199830/console-should-text-chat-be-implemented-with-the-ic-patch#latest

    The mods had this closed and are closing all other topics and sending the discussion to the link above.
    While I'm not for the feature I'm actually trying to help your side of the discussion out

    Trying to help it out by saying ui clutter is the reason it should not be apart of the game?

    The game needs text chat if it is going to survive. People will (and have been already) leaving because of this issue. The lack of a text chat makes it difficult for people to form groups of a n y kind for either pve or pvp content. It makes it harder for Guild recruitment, it also makes it difficult to sell or buy items. Also the lack of text chat makes it just about impossible for people who are deaf and hard of hearing to communicate with any one in this game.

    These are the things affected by not having a text chat, these are things that will cause people to leave the game. Not your "ui clutter".

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Racheal on August 4, 2015 9:12PM
    Hi
  • Azurephoenix999
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    Reasons we need Text Chat/Zone Chat on Consoles:

    Trading - Keep in mind, if you want to trade an item for an item (i.e. not selling something) then the guild traders are not an option. If you're looking for something specific (and rare), it's almost impossible to find the item you want. Even if you're part of multiple trade guilds. You have to resort to being one of "those guys" on voice chat that goes from city to city going "OI! ANYONE GOT ANY OF THEM DWEMER PAGES!?"

    Finding groupmates - The group finder tool is completely and utterly worthless on consoles; it took me an hour and a half to find one person. Being part of a guild with almost 500 members doesn't guarantee you that one of those people will want to do the dungeon with you. This time, you need to wait ungodly amounts of time outside of the dungeon (sometimes over an hour), spamming people that walk past with group invites.

    Text Chat/Zone Chat would make both of these issues so much easier to deal with, and I'm sick and tired of being spammed with "stop acting entitled" when I bring this up.
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  • Gilvoth
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    sory double post
    Edited by Gilvoth on August 5, 2015 12:54AM
  • Kleptobrainiac
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    From the Forum Code of Conduct

    7. SPAM
    7.1 You may not post messages or distribute via any in-game mechanic, spam, chat flooding or any other disruptive messaging. This includes posting messages more than once, posting messages to multiple locations, posting nonsensical content, disrupting the normal flow of conversation, or reposting content that had been previously removed by the Elder Scrolls team.


    These continuous threads after lock may not be the best idea. Just saying.
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  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    From the Forum Code of Conduct

    7. SPAM
    7.1 You may not post messages or distribute via any in-game mechanic, spam, chat flooding or any other disruptive messaging. This includes posting messages more than once, posting messages to multiple locations, posting nonsensical content, disrupting the normal flow of conversation, or reposting content that had been previously removed by the Elder Scrolls team.


    These continuous threads after lock may not be the best idea. Just saying.

    Nice try.

    The Mods are actively sending forum members to THIS thread to dicuss this topic.
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    I don't care what platform it is on...an MMORPG without Text Chat is NOT an MMORPG!
  • Gilvoth
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    are we still able to transfer our current characters over to xbox1 from PC for a price? because according to this link
    http://www.gamersftw.co.uk/chatpad-for-xbox-one-controller-announced/
    they have made a keyboard for the xbox controler.
    Edited by Gilvoth on August 5, 2015 12:55AM
  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    I think the Mods may be doing the same thing with this thread that the English did with Australia.

    The English sent all their criminals to Australia so they could "ignore" the problem.

    And...the Mods have this thread....for the same reason, I fear.
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    Of course I don't mean this seriously...but, is is getting hard to keep thinking Zos even cares about ESO on consoles.
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    I don't care what platform it is on...an MMORPG without Text Chat is NOT an MMORPG!
  • acw37162
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    Text chat, yes X 100

  • Rastoric
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  • AaronLannister
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Text chat, yes X 100

    agreed
  • Shunravi
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    What does a thread dedicated to low-drama sitting-back-and-watching of the predictable and inevitable storm of second release threads have to do with anything here?
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Dahkoht
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    Whoosh , back to the top since the other one got closed.

    Idiots ignored , I promised to not be baited nor respond to the fools and trolls.

    My "suggestion" is that Zenimax release it's mistake and implement the text chat that FF XI , FFXIV ARR , DCUO , NEVERWINTER , in other words every other major mmorpg on consoles has.
  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    In my 18 years of playing MMORPGs this is the first one that had Devs that thought it didn't need basic text chat.

    And, after seeing what an MMORPG is like without text chat...I can see why all the others had it.
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  • Nosam
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    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Whoosh , back to the top since the other one got closed.

    Idiots ignored , I promised to not be baited nor respond to the fools and trolls.

    My "suggestion" is that Zenimax release it's mistake and implement the text chat that FF XI , FFXIV ARR , DCUO , NEVERWINTER , in other words every other major mmorpg on consoles has.

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  • Eriquito3
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    Do you have any clue of what's being discussed vs what's already been scrapped and responded to by Zenimax as No?
    I'm trying to help all of you who want text chat and not derail or argue.

    Go here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199830/console-should-text-chat-be-implemented-with-the-ic-patch#latest

    The mods had this closed and are closing all other topics and sending the discussion to the link above.
    While I'm not for the feature I'm actually trying to help your side of the discussion out
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Whoosh , back to the top since the other one got closed.

    Idiots ignored , I promised to not be baited nor respond to the fools and trolls.

    My "suggestion" is that Zenimax release it's mistake and implement the text chat that FF XI , FFXIV ARR , DCUO , NEVERWINTER , in other words every other major mmorpg on consoles has.

    I agree.

    Text chat is vital to this games success.
    Hi
  • Sees-All-Colors
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    I've been thinking constantly how much this game needs text chat. Next to nobody is willing to voice chat in the game and it makes it pretty much impossible to group up with people in cities or to make new friends.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I've been thinking constantly how much this game needs text chat. Next to nobody is willing to voice chat in the game and it makes it pretty much impossible to group up with people in cities or to make new friends.


    If they are choosing not to voice chat, why do you feel they would text chat?

    Just curious
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  • AaronLannister
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    If they are choosing not to voice chat, why do you feel they would text chat?

    Just curious

    Because it's less intrusive.
  • Junglejim82
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    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181697/massterror-ps4-eu-daggerfall-are-recruiting#latest


    If they are choosing not to voice chat, why do you feel they would text chat?

    Just curious

    The above link is my recruiting post , note the last request . Won't mic up on account of his accent . He would 100% use text as an alternative
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  • Vampire-Mk2
    Hope499 wrote: »
    Okay...so, we all want text chat.

    Everyone knows now....we know it, they knot it, our dog knows it.

    Do we really need 2k posts a day about it?

    Flooding the forums with things people want is usually the best way for someone to take notice.

    I'm not really a talkative person on mic when playing so text chat would be good for me.
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  • Jbugz97
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    i say add it with option to turn off and on.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181697/massterror-ps4-eu-daggerfall-are-recruiting#latest

    The above link is my recruiting post , note the last request . Won't mic up on account of his accent . He would 100% use text as an alternative


    ...never mind ...you guys are into defending yourselves and your arguments while no one who is a decision maker is asking anyone of us those questions. It doesn't need to be defended of why there are benefits or why text chat should be added.


    I thought by trying to ask a broad question but as anyone can provide one or two examples of anything the comments go back to arguments and ppl trying to defend their position and opinions.

    On the other side I could show you where each time I go to major cities there are seemingly 50-100 people talking using voice chat to trade, LFG, meet ppl, role play but none of that helps the discussion.

    It's not about why any person wants it or a need for anyone to provide examples of why it should or should not be added.

    It's all about coming up with ideas that allow Zenimax to give you the feature without compromising what's been decided upon already. How can this be added in a way that fits the current mold without taking away or disrupting anything that already exists.

    Hopefully that makes sense

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  • AaronLannister
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    I thought by trying to ask a broad question but as anyone can provide one or two examples of anything the comments go back to arguments and ppl trying to defend their position and opinions.
    because you're obviously not understanding them.
    On the other side I could show you where each time I go to major cities there are seemingly 50-100 people talking using voice chat to trade, LFG, meet ppl, role play but none of that helps the discussion.
    Cool you're point? Text Chat + Voice Chat is still better.
    It's not about why any person wants it or a need for anyone to provide examples of why it should or should not be added.
    yes it is.
    It's all about coming up with ideas that allow Zenimax to give you the feature without compromising what's been decided upon already. How can this be added in a way that fits the current mold without taking away or disrupting anything that already exists.

    Compromising? The game is already compromised because they felt Console Gamers were lazy.

    It won't disrupt anything, again PC users don't feel this way. Imagine if they took Text chat and Mods away in the PC version Deltia and all the pro gamers will have a field day.
    Edited by AaronLannister on August 6, 2015 2:11PM
  • eternus_nex
    I don't understand how you could've seen 50 people talking all at the same time , the most i've seen is 5 and even at that the speech gets so cluttered that you can't even play anymore and have to leave area chat.
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    because you're obviously not understanding them.
    Cool you're point? Text Chat + Voice Chat is still better. yes it is.
    Compromising? The game is already compromised because they felt Console Gamers were lazy.

    It won't disrupt anything, again PC users don't feel this way. Imagine if they took Text chat and Mods away in the PC version Deltia and all the pro gamers will have a field day.

    Hey man...the direction you guys are taking isn't working. I've tried to help you all understand this as well as inform others of what has occurred from similar methods and the feedback from ZOs on ESO Live to those methods.

    Do as you please but it's not that I don't understand.
    Let go of the thought that you're compromising with me because to be honest I have no desires to see the feature at all.

    As a forum member I'm only helping other forum member communicate to Zenimax in a better way. It's clear that you and many others in this topic do not want nor are open to the feedback of others even if they too want the feature added.

    Best of luck on your endeavors...but this isn't progress it's just stubbornness and threads full of complaints and insults towards me and even ZOS
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