The Barber Shop is done. The Ignored Community Input is Here:

NotSo · June 2015

Sorry I'm late back here @Gidorick,
I meant that, depending on the hair stylist's own background, they would only know a specific set of haircuts. So a dunmer growing up in the back40 would only know dunmer styles.

Gidorick · June 2015

NotSo wrote: »

Sorry I'm late back here @Gidorick,
I meant that, depending on the hair stylist's own background, they would only know a specific set of haircuts. So a dunmer growing up in the back40 would only know dunmer styles.

I love that idea. Would have worked wonderfully in a sub-based game but a game like ESO:TU with a cash shop... they'll more than likely just sell hairstyles in the Crown Store.

Now, maybe there be a small selection of Gold-purchasable haircuts that are distributed as you mention @notso. That would give a reason to go and seek out other barbers!

Aeradon · June 2015

@OrdainedFaun There, say goodbye to your altaholism.

xaraan · June 2015

Should definitely offer hair/beard changes for in game gold.

And then bigger changes, like full appearance changes, though crown store.

There are many of us that need to make more serious changes than just a new haircut.

Aeradon · June 2015

Throren wrote: »

I want both King Jorunn and Sai Sahan's beard styles

I want Sai's motive.

Cry_Wolfe · June 2015

Large Beard= "Sorcerer/old man" type beards
Pattern balding+long hair/pattern balding + plait (ala Skyrim)
Hairier male torso/arm/leg on body decoration slider
Ornate twin plaits long/2 into 1/high bun for males
Head width slider
Larger range on height slider (body)

Sandmanninja · June 2015

This is COMPLETELY Pay-to-Win!!

If another player PAYS to get his hair done in a different style, and I'm fighting him in Cyrodiil, he will have an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE! I will be SO awestruck by his hair style that my reflexes will be slowed down.

Plz no Pay-To-Win!

LillyAngel · June 2015

Sandmanninja wrote: »

This is COMPLETELY Pay-to-Win!!

If another player PAYS to get his hair done in a different style, and I'm fighting him in Cyrodiil, he will have an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE! I will be SO awestruck by his hair style that my reflexes will be slowed down.

Plz no Pay-To-Win!

LOL, that's a good one.

Anyway, what it would really make it P2W is giving that long beard a Magicka, Health and Stamina increase by 5%

Note: I wouldn't mind that actually... ZOS, can we have that?

Pleeeeeeeease...

Lifeshield · June 2015

ZoS has you guys eating out of their hand if you're actually suggesting they should charge you real money for this.

LillyAngel · June 2015

Lifeshield wrote: »

ZoS has you guys eating out of their hand if you're actually suggesting they should charge you real money for this.

I was just being sarcastic

Anyway, ability/char enhancing stuff (XP gain scrolls/drinks have NOTHING to do with that, *just for all the trolls out there) should never make it to the store, never.

Gidorick · June 2015

Lifeshield wrote: »

ZoS has you guys eating out of their hand if you're actually suggesting they should charge you real money for this.

ZOS needs to make money. Many of us would prefer to do things like buy new hairstyles and tattoos than to have XP potions and the eventual hypothetical "Champion Amulet".

Sidney · June 2015

I would be very unhappy if there was a pay wall but I have an idea to counter that.

Set up shops with high gold sinks and give the option to buy the same things with crowns. Then the player who bought it can either:

Use it or
Give it to it the barber who in turn allows another player to buy it and use it at a discounted price. Player receives gold for the item.

How It Could/Should Work

Prices for the auctioned ones would be hard coded so the price remains the same and you don't have prices dropping insanely low
Item given to the barber shop
Player receives x gold
Item would be slightly discounted
Players have a choice to use the discounted items or full price (maybe on the choice, unsure if this is best)
The way it picks the ticket used should either randomly select who's ticket/item gets used or done in some manner that ensures one person can't buy up lots of tickets and dump them into the shop, preventing others from making gold

Goals with this model

Let those of us who don't feel this should be part of a paywall, pay with gold
Allow zenimax to make money off it
Allow those who may be poor in game to find a way to make gold while supporting zenimax at the same time

I would love if someone could help elaborate on this as I'm sure there's a better way with similar style/outcomes.

Gidorick · June 2015

That would essentially allow players to guy in game gold with Crowns. It seems like they want to avoid that @Sidney.

LillyAngel · June 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

That would essentially allow players to guy in game gold with Crowns. It seems like they want to avoid that @Sidney.

True. Personally, i just want a simple barber ticket (or whatever you want to call it) and also a name change ticket just in case i get sick of my name

As i said before, anything that enhances your char or your abilities should have no place in the crown store or game whatsoever. I thank ZOS for that, so far they are trying hard not to include anything like that but only the future will show, at the end, we all want more content and features that not only takes time to make but also cost a lot of money, and they gotta make that coin somehow.

Carde · June 2015

OP has more Crown Store options than not-Crown-Store options.

RIP

c0rp · June 2015

I need to change race more than change my frikin beard

Gidorick · June 2015

Carde wrote: »

OP has more Crown Store options than not-Crown-Store options.

RIP PROFIT

Fixed.

Tan9oSuccka · June 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Ffastyl wrote: »

Remember the Face Sculptor?

Barbers should be more common and less expensive, but ingame, lore-friendly ways to alter your entire appearance are available to the citizens of Tamriel.
Okay, the rich citizens of Tamriel.

The Face Sculptor in TES5 allowed you to revisit the character creation screen for 1,000 Septims. Drakes have a lower value than the Septim, so a 10,000 or higher cost for ESO's face sculptors sounds appropriate. At the very least, face sculptors should allow you to fully re-customize your face. Bones and all. To go closer to our in-lore example, the face sculptor should allow you to re-customize your entire body. This leaves out Race, Class and Name selection, which would be reasonably left for the Crown Store. Or not. The in-lore example goes further than body customization by letting you completely remake your character. Face Sculptor is really a misnomer at this point, but that is what they are called.

I'd dearly love to see face/body sculptor added to this game. It NEEDS to happen. But we also need a LOT more hairstyles, adornments, tattoos, makeup, facial hairs and scars as well.

This needs to happen. I'm actually shocked that its been over a year and it hasn't.

When can we expect something? I like my character, but a minor nose tweak or haircut option is very much needed.

OrdainedFaun · June 2015

I have a veteran 8 character I despise, yet cannot reroll as she is my primary crafter and knows everything

Would love to be able to change her face/hair. Changing body would be nice too.

VilhelmValhalla4 · July 2015

I know this is a bit of a necro, but maybe different regions in the game offer racial-specific haircuts in addition to the base haircuts for your race. For example, a Nord getting a haircut in Auridon would be able to purchase normal "Nord haircuts" available in character creation, but also elven style long hair. Also they should separate "Accessories" into several slots so the player can have a beard, an eye-patch, earrings, etc at the same time.

Cherryblossom · July 2015

If they add this, I expect everyone at launch to get a free use.

No this is not a I've been playing for ever, give me stuff. But based on the fact at launch we were unable to Zoom into the Character to see the changes we were making.
My first and loved toon, does not look like how I had hoped, so I would love to go back and change his appearance.

markt84 · July 2015

Just allow players to completely change their character like you did when you first made him, just can't change race or class. And please add more beards

Gidorick · July 2015

VilhelmValhalla4 wrote: »

I know this is a bit of a necro, but maybe different regions in the game offer racial-specific haircuts in addition to the base haircuts for your race. For example, a Nord getting a haircut in Auridon would be able to purchase normal "Nord haircuts" available in character creation, but also elven style long hair. Also they should separate "Accessories" into several slots so the player can have a beard, an eye-patch, earrings, etc at the same time.

I LOVE this idea and we totally need separate accessory slots. Why is an Argonian's facial horns an accessory? Makes no sense.

Gidorick · July 2015

Cherryblossom wrote: »

If they add this, I expect everyone at launch to get a free use.

No this is not a I've been playing for ever, give me stuff. But based on the fact at launch we were unable to Zoom into the Character to see the changes we were making.
My first and loved toon, does not look like how I had hoped, so I would love to go back and change his appearance.

I would think a "first time is free" with every character would be a good thing to have.

MrDenimChicken · July 2015

I would like if you could change your character's build.

I think this doesn't really break immersion either, since people can clearly get fatter or become more fit.

i just get annoyed when my character looks a certain way in character creation and then in game he looks different from how I imagined he would.

fallensbane_ESO · July 2015

I want to see something close to that added in.

Xerosus · July 2015

This actually happening? Thank Nerevar! I'm tired of running around with my Russell Crowe Imperial, i look like every other Imperial in the game.

Buck · July 2015

I actually think all of this is a big waste of time and money. lol Why games just can't let us access the character creation option to fine tune/change hair styles/markings etc (or have the need to change a High Elf's voice from a pre-teen asian girl because you forgot to sample it first) is just lame to me. It's a fun part of any game. --and ZoS could still sell you some DLC hairstyles or what ever else you desire. I'd rather them work on actual content and fixing the game... how hard can it be by letting us access the character creation screen -that already exists- be compared to opening shops everywhere?

Gidorick · July 2015

Buck wrote: »

I actually think all of this is a big waste of time and money. lol Why games just can't let us access the character creation option to fine tune/change hair styles/markings etc (or have the need to change a High Elf's voice from a pre-teen asian girl because you forgot to sample it first) is just lame to me. It's a fun part of any game. --and ZoS could still sell you some DLC hairstyles or what ever else you desire. I'd rather them work on actual content and fixing the game... how hard can it be by letting us access the character creation screen -that already exists- be compared to opening shops everywhere?

It's the difference between creating an immersive world and creating a shallow world with the game being driven by menus. It's a design creativity choice, nothing more.

Option 1: Visit an in-game barber with which you may interact to change your style.
Option 2: open a menu anywhere to access character creation.

To me, option 2 sounds boring and dull. If I wanted my Role Playing to be menu based, I'd play a MUD.

SergeantParadox · July 2015

Nestor wrote: »

Why does this have to be behind a Gold Sink? We don't pay for the appearance of our character when we make them, but the screen we make them in results in a character that looks different in the game.

Put a cool down on it, sure, but I would rather not be charged for something that I need to do because of how the game makes my character look in the creation screen vs in game.

Paying real life money? Absolutely not. I will keep a helmet on my characters before I do that.

^This. IMO a way to customize your character post original creation should be a standard feature in MMORPGs and RPGs alike. While I'm not completely against paying money it should be limited compared to what you can change for free.