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Console text chat discussion
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AaronLannister✭✭✭Nergie4242 wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you are saying make no.senseMirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
Omg Dude really are you crazy it won't be even close to that easy or they would have just did it so this thread can stop popin up.Also they did not take it out before the beta you can't just switch out a build for a game by the snip.KF your fingers it had to be removed months before hand for it not to be their during console beta.
Yes text chat was in the console version of ESO & yes they removed it just before the beta ... proof
This is from a AMA about a month before the console beta FYI.Hi ESO. I have been looking forward to this game all year and can’t wait for it to become available on the PS4. I would like to know if Chatbox will be available on console versions, as it is on the PC? I am deaf myself so I would be relying on Chatbox to allow me to communicate with other people on the game.
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zos_konk 27 points 3 months ago
Yes, you have the option of using the text chatbox on console as well. Furthermore, you can plug in a standard USB keyboard into your PS4 and use it to type, if you want.
The chat window collapses by default, but can be pinned to the HUD if you want.
source: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2tfb48/welcome_to_the_eso_tamriel_unlimited_aua/cnyig5x
That question was in response to a deaf person as well. The persons response? "Oh brilliant and thank you for your replied [sic]
Looking forward to it now."
But hey its only one customer who paid £50 only to be crushingly disappointed by the most nonsensical decision in MMO history.
or how about people who just don't want to talk when everybody is sleeping? This and Damage numbers are highly Important for Theorycrafting.
ZoS screwed up big time.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 4:21AM3 -
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✭✭Not sure if anybody has mentioned Warframe's text chat, but it works pretty flawlessly.
& for those that like a cleaner UI, implement an option to hide it, but assign it to a different key to open it.1 -
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✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If your typing on a keyboard or have the on screen keyboard pop up your most definitely not.playing the game next.0 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »Nergie4242 wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you are saying make no.senseMirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
Omg Dude really are you crazy it won't be even close to that easy or they would have just did it so this thread can stop popin up.Also they did not take it out before the beta you can't just switch out a build for a game by the snip.KF your fingers it had to be removed months before hand for it not to be their during console beta.
Yes text chat was in the console version of ESO & yes they removed it just before the beta ... proof
This is from a AMA about a month before the console beta FYI.Hi ESO. I have been looking forward to this game all year and can’t wait for it to become available on the PS4. I would like to know if Chatbox will be available on console versions, as it is on the PC? I am deaf myself so I would be relying on Chatbox to allow me to communicate with other people on the game.
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zos_konk 27 points 3 months ago
Yes, you have the option of using the text chatbox on console as well. Furthermore, you can plug in a standard USB keyboard into your PS4 and use it to type, if you want.
The chat window collapses by default, but can be pinned to the HUD if you want.
source: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2tfb48/welcome_to_the_eso_tamriel_unlimited_aua/cnyig5x
That question was in response to a deaf person as well. The persons response? "Oh brilliant and thank you for your replied [sic] Looking forward to it now."
But hey its only one customer who paid £50 only to be crushingly disappointed by the most nonsensical decision in MMO history.
or how about people who just don't want to talk when everybody is sleeping? This and Damage numbers are highly Important for Theorycrafting.
ZoS screwed up big time.
Trying to test any form of sustained dps with different builds is a serious pain.1 -
Drake_Fury✭✭✭About the smartphones idea. I think an app to serve as a keyboard could be a nice improvement, but the chat box should still be visible on screen. Having to check your phone every 5 minutes to see if someone said something is not really better than not having text. The point of the chatbox is, for example, if something green shows up in the corner of your eye, that means a guildmate is talking, then you turn your attention to it and read.
Not having a keyboard is a minor thing, it doesn't really matter if you don't talk, as long as you can read or hear what's happening. That's the first thing I learned in FFXI, 14 years ago. I eventually ended up getting a usb keyboard because I wanted to be able to reply faster than with the gamepad, but before I got a keyboard, I could read the recommendations of others, the decisions the group took, the order of the skillchain (not important to tell you what a skillchain is in FFXI, it'sa gameplay mechanic that needs cooperation, and therefore, communication), my guild and private messages, all in the same box.
The biggest problem with the voice chat in ESO is that the vast majority of players dont use it, and for multiple very good reasons I won't repeat. The only way to communicate with them is via text, on consoles message system, which means you need to do much more steps for something you would've finished by the time the console message screen is loaded...
Also, I just read the playstation store description of ESO to make sure, and no where does it state that there is no text chat, and since it is a basic mmo feature, if they don't mention it, I suppose it's default because, you know, ESO is a mmo. It also doesn't mention the voice chat, in case some of you wanted to reply that if they don't mention it it means it's not there.5 -
Duragon_Darko wrote: »Lupus_Draco wrote: »I played ESO on PC for a while. I could not imagine playing without text chat. When the game was released for console, I bought it because my Laptop isn't "top of the line" and I enjoy this game better with a controller. On consol I don't have to run 2 additional programs to do so.
Honestly though, what a mess. This is an MMO. One which has no way to speak to the masses. I love the game, I love the mechanics, but I mean seriously. How did this end up at the top of the list for decisions. I dropped $100 on the premium digital version for PS4 (save your harlte comments) and I got a dumbed down version of what I enjoyed on PC. It's not a problem to play the story mode without text chat, that's not an issue at all. However MMO portion of the game is close to impossible without either filtering through forums first in an attempt to find players to meet up with, or dealing with the horribly annoying proximity voice chat. I am all for voice chat. When I play FFXIV on console I run TeamSpeak3 through my android just for extreme primals and what not. However I still spend more time in the Console Chat Box, than I do talking. This proximity chat thing though. Horrible. I mostly hear super high Mic sensitivity blaring everything going on in a players house from all the way from horrible music, to arguing family members. I can't look for group for dungeons, I can't find out where the action is in Cyrodil or link up to wreak some havoc, I can't even look for a guild. This is an MMO, a social massive multilayer online game, with barely a way for the masses to be social. We need text chat.
Well said.
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Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭I think you should have the option to attack any other player in pve that annoys you in voice chat. I would pay 100k gold to wrecking blow them. My mic drops...on the ground can't stand the constant annoying players. Text chat would be a great option for the many that can buy a 5 dollar keyboard. They actually may be a buck at your local goodwill.
Google 'Nick swardsons pretend time xbox' pretty funny skit on youtubeEdited by Mighty_oakk on July 24, 2015 5:06AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support to their user interface doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax or any other console game developer has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Also the miscast like features where someone will use the Xbox one to play a game running on the PC through the Xbox one. That kinda feature obviously requires a mouse and keyboard but you're still technically playing a PC game and not an Xbox one game.
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on July 24, 2015 8:21AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it, nothing will change if we don't.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Zenimax needs to know we need Text and I urge people going to Quake Con to ask more questions as to why and tell them Why we need it.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 8:29AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
It's also worth reading articles like this
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-01-elder-scrolls-online-and-the-turbulent-topic-of-text-chat-on-console
Lastly another similar topic here: https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/33ynw1/instead_of_pointless_surveys_and_petitions_for/
There are many others but just sharing...it's NOT being looked or considered at all. Radial text chat additions is the only thing being considered at this point.
Never say never but don't continue believing it's being worked on cause that statement is not validEdited by NewBlacksmurf on July 24, 2015 8:36AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 8:36AM2 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed so don't believe otherwise until an official statement is made with an effective roll out date. We've seen a lot of oooppss statements from them on this topic.
Happy gaming
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on July 24, 2015 8:39AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.0 -
AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed so don't believe otherwise until an official statement is made with an effective roll out date. We've seen a lot of oooppss statements from them on this topic.
Happy gaming
Thar reddit Article is also quite outdated.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 8:47AM1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
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AaronLannister✭✭✭
LOL.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
Then that is why we need to keep asking and telling Zenimax. The Pro's Far outway the cons when it comes to Text chat and also Damage numbers. Developers found a way to appease everybody, it's called Options. What Zenimax seems to be doing is out of pure obnoxious game design, and that needs to change.
Radial Pretext won't solve anything, what if I want to talk to my Guild Mates while i'm chatting with other people? Or talking to others? It's just much more convenient to have both.
And yes you have been giving Dissenting Opinions.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 8:56AM1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »
LOL.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
Then that is why we need to keep asking Zenimax.
Radial Pretext won't solve anything, what if I want to talk to my Guild Mates while i'm chatting with other people? Or talking to others? It's just much more convenient to have both.
And yes you have been giving Dissenting Opinions.
^^
All of your last comment is 100% opinionated. That opinion is shared with many on this topic but just remember it's your opinion and others who support the subject of this thread that a text chat feature should be added.
Also keep in mind there is another large group who is just fine with what isn't there on the screen.
It's our opinions that we are discussing only.
Don't confuse your opinions or any one else's whether they agree or disagree with factual statements from Zenimax on the subject.
All I'm trying to share is to those who may be uniformed....Zenimax is not considering this and has shared that. And bumping the thread isn't going to make them change their mind.
Perhaps offering NEW ideas may but circulating the same "this is needed cause it's on PC" has per Zenimax been decided not to be apart of the console versions based on their professional experience and studio development decisionsEdited by NewBlacksmurf on July 24, 2015 9:02AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »
LOL.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
Then that is why we need to keep asking Zenimax.
Radial Pretext won't solve anything, what if I want to talk to my Guild Mates while i'm chatting with other people? Or talking to others? It's just much more convenient to have both.
And yes you have been giving Dissenting Opinions.
^^
All of your last comment is 100% opinionated. That opinion is shared with many on this topic but just remember it's your opinion and others who support the subject of this thread that a text chat feature should be added.
Also keep in mind there is another large group who is just fine with what isn't there on the screen.
It's our opinions that we are discussing only.
Don't confuse your opinions or any one else's whether they agree or disagree with factual statements from Zenimax on the subject.
Wrong it's not 100% opinionated, The Pro's of adding Text Chat far outways the cons and there are Ways to APPEASE both Sides CALLED OPTIONS, THAT is a FACT not an OPINION.
All I'm trying to share is to those who may be uniformed....Zenimax is not considering this and has shared that.
And that is why I said we need to keep on bring the problem up to Zenimax.
And it is a fact you've been giving dissenting opinions. Not an opinion.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 9:05AM1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »
LOL.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
Then that is why we need to keep asking Zenimax.
Radial Pretext won't solve anything, what if I want to talk to my Guild Mates while i'm chatting with other people? Or talking to others? It's just much more convenient to have both.
And yes you have been giving Dissenting Opinions.
^^
All of your last comment is 100% opinionated. That opinion is shared with many on this topic but just remember it's your opinion and others who support the subject of this thread that a text chat feature should be added.
Also keep in mind there is another large group who is just fine with what isn't there on the screen.
It's our opinions that we are discussing only.
Don't confuse your opinions or any one else's whether they agree or disagree with factual statements from Zenimax on the subject.
Wrong it's not 100% opinionated, The Pro's of adding Text Chat far outways the cons and there are OPTIONS to appease both Sides, THAT is a FACT not an OPINION.
All I'm trying to share is to those who may be uniformed....Zenimax is not considering this and has shared that.
And that is why I said we need to keep on bring the problem up to Zenimax.
And it is a fact you've been giving dissenting opinions. Not an opinion.
^^^this is 100%
Opinion-
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"
synonyms: belief, judgment, thought(s), (way of) thinking, mind, (point of) view, viewpoint, outlook, attitude, stance, position, perspective, persuasion, standpoint; More
the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.
"the changing climate of opinion"
an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something.
"I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved"-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Laranoye✭✭✭The game will crash and burn then...
Because they failed to add a fundamental part of any mmo... Oh well i really wanted to play this on my console.. And i shan't be returning to it on PC.
Also you can already use a keyboard and mouse on both xbox one and ps4.... I already use it. And mouse and keyboard on FF ARR....3 -
AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »
LOL.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
They actually said they have decided during development NOT to have text chat on consoles at all. They also stated its not being considered to be added. Then Gina and the other girl hosting said as always forum feedback is welcome.
2016-2017 is a possibility for Xbox One as native mouse and keyboard support come with the windows 10 update to Xbox one. As far as this game goes....if you watch the two ESO live shows again...they actually say it's not being considered.
It's why I keep posting that in these threads because for whatever reason their response to continue forum discussions and feedback was somehow misinterpreted that this is being considered.
well then we just need to keep asking.
No you don't as they've already responded twice.
I'd say it's best to keep discussing it amongst other players and see what Sony does with the Playstation 4 as you'd likely need both consoles to have mouse and keyboard native gaming support first.
Just because the Xbox one is adding mouse and keyboard support doesn't and shouldn't conclude that Zenimax has interest in doing so. Also...to date no Xbox One games are being changed or marketed to include such support. This is right now a feature targeted for playing games from the PC that can be played with Xbox one console versions of the game like Gigantic (MMO game to release soon with PC and Xbox one servers)
Wrong, the only way they'll ever learn is if we keep asking for it therefore nothing will change.
You don't need KB and Mouse for it to work, they can EASILY implement it with the controller like MMO's. That is also a terrible excuse as people have figured out how to manage Chatboxes with the controller they already made the whole game compatible.
Im not trying to argue here...what has been decided by Zenimax has been decided and stated as such.
If it's not to your liking the. Expressing it is fine but pestering any topic until it's changed to your liking often times may cause you more grief and in the end from what we've seen from Zenimax tend to produce ambiguous statements that people feel lead on to later learn the company had no intention of changing from the start.
This specific topic is a perfect example where ONLY on a PS4 website article/Forum was it suggested that text chat was a part of development for the console version. During BETA we saw the reality was it was scrapped. A week before release they shared it was removed way back during original development and was never planned to release on console.
Here is another thread of a person's summary of one ESO live. They don't include other QnA where text chat was also addressed but it does have one part of the conversation: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/177122/devs-response-to-no-text-chat-on-console-version
Wrong, you're trying to dissuade people not to talk about it.
Okay if Zenimax won't listen then we need to keep asking them to add it.
Oh and it's hilarious Zenimax is acting like it's impossible to implement Text Chat on consoles in an MMO, it's been done before and needs to happen.
Go back and read my edits above please...but again...I'm not trying to argue with you
Just going off the facts and statements Zenimax has shared to date. Nothing has changed
Not trying to argue but gives dissenting opinions. sure.
What opinions....please go read the articles and threads in my links above.
Sorry if you were misinformed but nothing I've shared above is new info or at least shouldn't be.
Also, if the information kills your hope then it suggests you were lacking information on the subject but as to how it's dissenting opinions(the information I've shared is off Zenimax statements).
If a company says No we've scrapped it and are not adding it....that's a fact
Me commenting that it's not coming anytime in 2015 isn't my opinion, it's what they've shared to date.
If there were conversations from Zenimax that they would even look into the subject then my comments would be highly opinionated but that's not the case. They've said what they landed on and how the game will work as far as communicating on console with only one adjustment which was the addition of radial pre-text. That was what was considered from the April beta complaints.
That's it...and now you've got me arguing....SMH
Then that is why we need to keep asking Zenimax.
Radial Pretext won't solve anything, what if I want to talk to my Guild Mates while i'm chatting with other people? Or talking to others? It's just much more convenient to have both.
And yes you have been giving Dissenting Opinions.
^^
All of your last comment is 100% opinionated. That opinion is shared with many on this topic but just remember it's your opinion and others who support the subject of this thread that a text chat feature should be added.
Also keep in mind there is another large group who is just fine with what isn't there on the screen.
It's our opinions that we are discussing only.
Don't confuse your opinions or any one else's whether they agree or disagree with factual statements from Zenimax on the subject.
Wrong it's not 100% opinionated, The Pro's of adding Text Chat far outways the cons and there are OPTIONS to appease both Sides, THAT is a FACT not an OPINION.
All I'm trying to share is to those who may be uniformed....Zenimax is not considering this and has shared that.
And that is why I said we need to keep on bring the problem up to Zenimax.
And it is a fact you've been giving dissenting opinions. Not an opinion.
^^^this is 100%
Opinion-
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"
synonyms: belief, judgment, thought(s), (way of) thinking, mind, (point of) view, viewpoint, outlook, attitude, stance, position, perspective, persuasion, standpoint; More
the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.
"the changing climate of opinion"
an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something.
"I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved"
Okay let me clarify what I've been saying is an Objective Opinion, not Subjective like you suggest.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game will crash and burn then...
Because they failed to add a fundamental part of any mmo... Oh well i really wanted to play this on my console.. And i shan't be returning to it on PC.
Also you can already use a keyboard and mouse on both xbox one and ps4.... I already use it. And mouse and keyboard on FF ARR....
You may be right but MY opinion is the game will not crash and burn due to text chat. The consoles have more active players than PC which could be an argument against adding text chat.
Let's be honest...the PC gets updates first, has add-on support, customized controls, AND as you all desire...Text chat
All that but still far less active players (*based on what is reported)
Only time will tell but the game IF it falls apart will be more so due to lack of content and a terrible endgame concept rather than any decisions on how communication occurs.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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AaronLannister✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The game will crash and burn then...
Because they failed to add a fundamental part of any mmo... Oh well i really wanted to play this on my console.. And i shan't be returning to it on PC.
Also you can already use a keyboard and mouse on both xbox one and ps4.... I already use it. And mouse and keyboard on FF ARR....
You may be right but MY opinion is the game will not crash and burn due to text chat. The consoles have more active players than PC which could be an argument against adding text chat.
Let's be honest...the PC gets updates first, has add-on support, customized controls, AND as you all desire...Text chat
All that but still far less active players (*based on what is reported)
The PC has already been out for a year or more, of course the Active Playerbase is not as high on Consoles.Only time will tell but the game IF it falls apart will be more so due to lack of content and a terrible endgame concept rather than any decisions on how communication occurs.
Communication is a very important tool for endgame users. How they're handling it, IS very poor. Letalone people who want to RP, but now they can't. In fact people might lose interest due to how unsocial ESO is, MMO's THRIVE on making people stay. If they want people to stay then Adding Text chat is one major thing they need to add.
ESO is by far the most unsocial MMO on Consoles yet and or ever made. FFXI even on the PS2 had KB support. The Excuses made by Zenimax so far are hilarious.
It may not be the only factor as to why ESO fails, but it will be a big one people will keep on talking about.
One of the biggest Draws in MMO is being SOCIAL and also ROLEPLAYING, some people have met others IRL due to MMO's. Having only Voice Chat completely Ruins that Social Atmosphere and the RolePlay atmosphere. You don't hear people SCREAMING in the streets in WoW.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 9:41AM2 -
urkonse✭✭✭Not sure if anybody has mentioned Warframe's text chat, but it works pretty flawlessly.
& for those that like a cleaner UI, implement an option to hide it, but assign it to a different key to open it.
not sure if i already did
BUT: In warframe we get chat box for free. in eso we pay 70e for game & get no chat box <_<
Edited by urkonse on July 24, 2015 3:53PMLightning guild is recruiting active players at any level & skill ( PS4 , EU)0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The game will crash and burn then...
Because they failed to add a fundamental part of any mmo... Oh well i really wanted to play this on my console.. And i shan't be returning to it on PC.
Also you can already use a keyboard and mouse on both xbox one and ps4.... I already use it. And mouse and keyboard on FF ARR....
You may be right but MY opinion is the game will not crash and burn due to text chat. The consoles have more active players than PC which could be an argument against adding text chat.
Let's be honest...the PC gets updates first, has add-on support, customized controls, AND as you all desire...Text chat
All that but still far less active players (*based on what is reported)
The PC has already been out for a year or more, of course the Active Playerbase is not as high on Consoles.Only time will tell but the game IF it falls apart will be more so due to lack of content and a terrible endgame concept rather than any decisions on how communication occurs.
Communication is a very important tool for endgame users. How they're handling it, IS very poor. Letalone people who want to RP, but now they can't. In fact people might lose interest due to how unsocial ESO is, MMO's THRIVE on making people stay. If they want people to stay then Adding Text chat is one major thing they need to add before.
ESO is by far the most unsocial MMO on Consoles yet and or ever made. FFXI even on the PS2 had KB support. The Excuses made by Zenimax so far are hilarious.
It may not be the only factor as to why ESO fails, but it will be a big one people will keep on talking about.
One of the biggest Draws in MMO is being SOCIAL and also ROLEPLAYING, some people have met others IRL due to MMO's. Having only Voice Chat completely Ruins that Social Atmosphere and the RolePlay atmosphere. You don't hear people SCREAMING in the streets in WoW.
......this is all based on your interpretation and maybe false expectations. You're using other developers and other games from a similar genre to create your "OPINION" on the subject.
Now if there is some official study from a reputable source who has proven any of your opinions, maybe it's worth typing that into the thread and cite and references those statements.
But what you're doing is creating an argument to add a feature based off you and others opinions that are soley influenced by other MMO games you've played.
Zenimax has outlined and shared their vision of what they want TESO to look like, how it played and how communication should occur for both console and PC. They've heard feedback and observations from the community and based their decisions off their vision and goals but have included player feedback which gives us what we have today.
We all have features that we would like to be added or things that we hope could be changed but everyone has a different mix and idea. Regarding this topic, some want text chat so they can link items to make trading easier. Some don't want to hear other people's voices while playing, some may have language barriers, some want to be able to party chat outside the game and text chat inside the game, some feel one form of communication is better than another, etc.
While those may all be valid in the person's eyes, Zenimax feels otherwise. If your goal is to get Zenimax's attention then first take time to understand the companies direction. Ask more about the direction they want to take the game. Research where the folks they bring on ESO Live come from so you fully "get it".
Then have conversations with Zenimax rather than threads full of comments complaining about yet another thing.
Understand, this subject isn't game breaking or causing any problems so it's purely a "want" and not a "need".
Adding text chat will involve redoing the entire UI for console. It took them over a year to get a console UI and other functionalities in place to release on console. Expect at least half that time IF this subject is ever considered. That's based on ESO Live segments when they try and communicate what it takes to make changes in the game (the underwater swimming idea topic)
Best of luck...happy gamingEdited by NewBlacksmurf on July 24, 2015 9:53AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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bedlom✭✭✭✭✭
✭Please ZOS just add an optional chat box we seriously need one
This VC is terrible as the main/only means of communication.
This is an mmorpg after all and I'm sure ZOS wants the community to stay strong for as long as possible and for that we do need a chat box period.3 -
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Of course, because other developers Objectively Handled MMO's Social Aspects as well as UI much better then these obnoxious developers.......this is all based on your interpretation and maybe false expectations. You're using other developers and other games from a similar genre to create your "OPINION" on the subject.
Ahhh yes, OFFICIAL study, this is why MMO's have servers dedicated for Role Players. And is a Known Common thing as to what people do in MMO's.Now if there is some official study from a reputable source who has proven any of your opinions, maybe it's worth typing that into the thread and cite and references those statements.
Of course, because they Objectively handled things better in the same genre.But what you're doing is creating an argument to add a feature based off you and others opinions that are soley influenced by other MMO games you've played.
No they clearly haven't.Zenimax has outlined and shared their vision of what they want TESO to look like, how it played and how communication should occur for both console and PC. They've heard feedback and observations from the community and based their decisions off their vision and goals but have included player feedback which gives us what we have today.
Sorry a ChatBox is not just a feature, it's part of the MMORPG genre so are damage numbers. Again having OPTIONS Available will solve everything.We all have features that we would like to be added or things that we hope could be changed but everyone has a different mix and idea. Regarding this topic, some want text chat so they can link items to make trading easier. Some don't want to hear other people's voices while playing, some may have language barriers, some want to be able to party chat outside the game and text chat inside the game, some feel one form of communication is better than another, etc.
The Companies direction is WRONG and Flawed. They are being Obnoxious. They will go down in INFAMY as being one of the most Obnoxious if not then one of the most Ignorant. But they already Kind of did that to themselves when they first launched. I guess History Will repeat itself if they don't change.While those may all be valid in the person's eyes, Zenimax feels otherwise. If your goal is to get Zenimax's attention then first take time to understand the companies direction. Ask more about the direction they want to take the game. Research where the folks they bring on ESO Live come from so you fully "get it".Then have conversations with Zenimax rather than threads full of comments complaining about yet another thing.
Understand, this subject isn't game breaking or causing any problems so it's purely a "want" and not a "need".
it's game breaking when people have to rely on a crappy LFG system, it's game breaking when people can't properly Socialize with others in an MMO and it's game breaking when people can't Role Play which is what people do in MMO's.
It's not PURELY want or NEED. It's Objectively BAD.
Text Chat was already in BETA.Adding text chat will involve redoing the entire UI for console. It took them over a year to get a console UI and other functionalities in place to release on console. Expect at least half that time IF this subject is ever considered. That's based on ESO Live segments when they try and communicate what it takes to make changes in the game (the underwater swimming idea topic)Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 10:42AM4
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