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Console text chat discussion
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Junglejim82✭✭✭]mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »
Actually I play swtor, defiance etc. I just carve away a group and get stuff done.
How many people do you need for a vet dungeon? 4?
You are in a guild of 50 or more and you can't pull four bros to run it?
Maybe its not voice chat.
Also try running a healer. Everyone wants to DPS. So if you run a healer maybe you'll get invited to the shin dig.
I've got a core group of guys and many other players who will run em when we want to get our faces melted, lol.
The people in voice chat when you are on are likely playing at the same time regularly. The voice chat has a nice way of grouping British night owls with Yankee after workers.
And PS. Try to be less condescending. Playing ultima online doesn't make you good at anything but being old, take it from a. BBS player. Skeet doop. Scrunchh scrunch beep. Oh dial up how I've missed you.
I never played ultima nice try as I've explained before I'm a console gamer that has played the mmos that have been available. You said earlier in this thread this was your first proper mmo . I'm not talking about 4 man vet dungeons either i mean the 12 and 24 man variety finding the specific roles needed at the same level wanting to run em at the same time . No need to explain the intricacies of playing a role to me I'm quite experienced with tanking and healing tyvm are you?Jungleim
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Junglejim82 wrote: »]mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »
Actually I play swtor, defiance etc. I just carve away a group and get stuff done.
How many people do you need for a vet dungeon? 4?
You are in a guild of 50 or more and you can't pull four bros to run it?
Maybe its not voice chat.
Also try running a healer. Everyone wants to DPS. So if you run a healer maybe you'll get invited to the shin dig.
I've got a core group of guys and many other players who will run em when we want to get our faces melted, lol.
The people in voice chat when you are on are likely playing at the same time regularly. The voice chat has a nice way of grouping British night owls with Yankee after workers.
And PS. Try to be less condescending. Playing ultima online doesn't make you good at anything but being old, take it from a. BBS player. Skeet doop. Scrunchh scrunch beep. Oh dial up how I've missed you.
I never played ultima nice try as I've explained before I'm a console gamer that has played the mmos that have been available. You said earlier in this thread this was your first proper mmo . I'm not talking about 4 man vet dungeons either i mean the 12 and 24 man variety finding the specific roles needed at the same level wanting to run em at the same time . No need to explain the intricacies of playing a role to me I'm quite experienced with tanking and healing tyvm are you?
Uh yeah its not rocket science or some secret art.
Oh you tank? I think you mean you let the boss beat on you like you owe it money.
Oh you are a healer? I think you mean you facilitate health care for players inside your group as long as they are in your network and have enrolled during the open enrollment period.
Oh you are DPS? I guess you weren't creative or cunning enough to handle the above professions, so just press the attack button over and over until something dies. No I don't mean your will to live.
Question. What is it about MMOs that people think are so mysterious?
MMOs are just RPGs with all the fun stretched thinner and the mob grinding is turned up to 11.
I do like this game because it doesn't lean so heavily on that stuff at first.
And voice chat has been ace in our PvP guild. We are wrecking face. The main channel is tac come, the other channels are random debates, and technical discussions.
Again, this is just a game. I have an opinion about it. You have a different one.
As it stands this is just a discussion, ( one in which I support the prevailing and dominant opinion that text chat is unneeded.)0 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.2 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
Yeah I don't think people blowing 400 plus, another 60 for ESO and another 60 for online, etc, don't have the disposable income for something more useful like a smart phone.
I for one think this is a great idea and a chance to add in additional features like skyshard maps or lore books etc.
I know your solution is the answer that will likely happen.
Your not playing destiny anymore kid
Zos has based the entire game around immersion. Phones arent very immersive...
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.0 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
If you're typing into the game on a keyboard, then yeah, you are playing the game. Disputing that just seems like being deliberately obtuse.
If your attention is removed entirely from the game and the screen to stare at a completely separate device that isn't bundled w/ your console, that you need to purchase separately and pay a completely separate monthly bill for usage, then you are NOT playing the game. You are playing on your phone.
And again, you don't need a keyboard. Many of us would probably use one for comfort / ease, but you absolutely do not need a physical keyboard to utilize an onscreen keyboard. I'm not even sure why you assume you would.
...or do you somehow plug a keyboard into your phone whenever you want to text for some reason?
Edited by Varicite on July 24, 2015 1:18AM2 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
This kids soooooooooo dumb i just skip 90% of his posts. I know why console players get a bad rap
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BullNetch✭✭✭XBOX One supports smartglass. i believe the console may support USB keyboards. You can try chatting on a d-pad.
Some F2P titles on XBOX One support text chat.
If ESO is a success on consoles and other developers plan on releasing similar games on it.
Maybe MS will out a messenger pad like they did with the XBOX 360 platform.
Smartglass support and text chat for the XBOX One version may not hurt.1 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Yeah I don't think people blowing 400 plus, another 60 for ESO and another 60 for online, etc, don't have the disposable income for something more useful like a smart phone.
I for one think this is a great idea and a chance to add in additional features like skyshard maps or lore books etc.
I know your solution is the answer that will likely happen. [/quote]
Your not playing destiny anymore kid
Zos has based the entire game around immersion. Phones arent very immersive...
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Neither are keyboards or a text box so what's your point.0 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
If you're typing into the game on a keyboard, then yeah, you are playing the game. Disputing that just seems like being deliberately obtuse.
If your attention is removed entirely from the game and the screen to stare at a completely separate device that isn't bundled w/ your console, that you need to purchase separately and pay a completely separate monthly bill for usage, then you are NOT playing the game. You are playing on your phone.
And again, you don't need a keyboard. Many of us would probably use one for comfort / ease, but you absolutely do not need a physical keyboard to utilize an onscreen keyboard. I'm not even sure why you assume you would.
...or do you somehow plug a keyboard into your phone whenever you want to text for some reason?
You are splitting hairs to keep from arguing against yourself, lol.
Most modern games include some sort of second screen experience, its the same thing you are asking for except not old fashioned.
You want a model t and we could have a Ferrari.0 -
bareheiny✭✭✭✭✭The "immersion" argument goes right out the window as soon as your realize that gamer tags are instead of character names.
Hell, even character names would probably ruin immersion given the amazing imagination I've seen on display in other games.2 -
bareheiny✭✭✭✭✭
Well....honestly, I couldn't handle a Ferrari - the roads are pretty dodgy in this part of the world (narrow, lots of bends and hills) - I'd probably wrap it around a lamppost or something.mrskinskull wrote: »You want a model t and we could have a Ferrari.
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mrskinskull✭✭✭✭XBOX One supports smartglass. i believe the console may support USB keyboards. You can try chatting on a d-pad.
Some F2P titles on XBOX One support text chat.
If ESO is a success on consoles and other developers plan on releasing similar games on it.
Maybe MS will out a messenger pad like they did with the XBOX 360 platform.
Smartglass support and text chat for the XBOX One version may not hurt.
Right, that's what I've been saying. I'm not actually against text comms, just gaudy far away hard to read text spam.
Put it on a tablet or smart phone app and now you've got my attention. I think many are just using some sort of app to facilitate this already.0 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »If that's how you feel about ZOS' responses and information on the topic that's fine but don't attribute your disagreement to me directly.
Certainly.
Link the quote where ZOS says that something like this won't happen until 2016 or 2017, or that any form of text-based communication is not being considered at this time, and I will very graciously attribute my disagreement w/ your words to ZOS instead of the person who wrote them.
Otherwise, that actually is something that you made up.
I think you are confused. The devs did leave out text chat. Popular opinion on this thread is that it was intentional. Posts don't need a bibliography when the thesis is supported by common assumption in this thread and the evidence contained in the ESO console package.
Text chat was left out either by intention or some other reason and there have been many patches since launch.
The entire situation, this thread and common sense supports smurfs assertion that this was developer intention.
Maybe in the future, we will get a nice app with map and equipment functions or training and research options. Text chat would be an easy shoe horn.
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I'd just love a mute option. My block list is constantly full from loud noise trolls. PHHHSHSHSHSHSHSH!!!!
PS4 block limit is tiny. XD0 -
Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »]mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »
Actually I play swtor, defiance etc. I just carve away a group and get stuff done.
How many people do you need for a vet dungeon? 4?
You are in a guild of 50 or more and you can't pull four bros to run it?
Maybe its not voice chat.
Also try running a healer. Everyone wants to DPS. So if you run a healer maybe you'll get invited to the shin dig.
I've got a core group of guys and many other players who will run em when we want to get our faces melted, lol.
The people in voice chat when you are on are likely playing at the same time regularly. The voice chat has a nice way of grouping British night owls with Yankee after workers.
And PS. Try to be less condescending. Playing ultima online doesn't make you good at anything but being old, take it from a. BBS player. Skeet doop. Scrunchh scrunch beep. Oh dial up how I've missed you.
I never played ultima nice try as I've explained before I'm a console gamer that has played the mmos that have been available. You said earlier in this thread this was your first proper mmo . I'm not talking about 4 man vet dungeons either i mean the 12 and 24 man variety finding the specific roles needed at the same level wanting to run em at the same time . No need to explain the intricacies of playing a role to me I'm quite experienced with tanking and healing tyvm are you?
Uh yeah its not rocket science or some secret art.
Oh you tank? I think you mean you let the boss beat on you like you owe it money.
Oh you are a healer? I think you mean you facilitate health care for players inside your group as long as they are in your network and have enrolled during the open enrollment period.
Oh you are DPS? I guess you weren't creative or cunning enough to handle the above professions, so just press the attack button over and over until something dies. No I don't mean your will to live.
Question. What is it about MMOs that people think are so mysterious?
MMOs are just RPGs with all the fun stretched thinner and the mob grinding is turned up to 11.
I do like this game because it doesn't lean so heavily on that stuff at first.
And voice chat has been ace in our PvP guild. We are wrecking face. The main channel is tac come, the other channels are random debates, and technical discussions.
Again, this is just a game. I have an opinion about it. You have a different one.
As it stands this is just a discussion, ( one in which I support the prevailing and dominant opinion that text chat is unneeded.)
Seriously folks , ignore the immature troll with he /mic drop nonsense and so on.
He thinks still his opinion is the "dominant one". It lets you know how delusional his world is.
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
Dude, do you even play MMO's? If this was Skyrim, great mic drop. Not single player game but an MMO, and everyone is wondering what you're doing..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.1 -
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✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
If you're typing into the game on a keyboard, then yeah, you are playing the game. Disputing that just seems like being deliberately obtuse.
If your attention is removed entirely from the game and the screen to stare at a completely separate device that isn't bundled w/ your console, that you need to purchase separately and pay a completely separate monthly bill for usage, then you are NOT playing the game. You are playing on your phone.
And again, you don't need a keyboard. Many of us would probably use one for comfort / ease, but you absolutely do not need a physical keyboard to utilize an onscreen keyboard. I'm not even sure why you assume you would.
...or do you somehow plug a keyboard into your phone whenever you want to text for some reason?
You are splitting hairs to keep from arguing against yourself, lol.
Most modern games include some sort of second screen experience, its the same thing you are asking for except not old fashioned.
You want a model t and we could have a Ferrari.
And youre trolling.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mighty_oakk wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
This kids soooooooooo dumb i just skip 90% of his posts. I know why console players get a bad rap
Yea, I didn't want to say it, but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?.... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.1 -
King Bozo✭✭✭I think you should have the option to attack any other player in pve that annoys you in voice chat. I would pay 100k gold to wrecking blow them. My mic drops...on the ground can't stand the constant annoying players. Text chat would be a great option for the many that can buy a 5 dollar keyboard. They actually may be a buck at your local goodwill.1 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭The "immersion" argument goes right out the window as soon as your realize that gamer tags are instead of character names.
Hell, even character names would probably ruin immersion given the amazing imagination I've seen on display in other games.
Yea, don't talk about the immersion crap. To be really immersed in ESO, I need a chat box to communicate. Wtf. Immersion, please. Hold up, let me finish my dungeon with "CoD_SNIPER" and "xXnumber_UNOXx". ><.... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.4 -
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »And tonight everyone in Riften was treated to the sound of pornography over VOIP.
@ZOS.... WTF. Real immersion there, dumbos. You guys are ridiculous. TEXT CHAT BOX..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.1 -
mrskinskull✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »]mrskinskull wrote: »Junglejim82 wrote: »
Actually I play swtor, defiance etc. I just carve away a group and get stuff done.
How many people do you need for a vet dungeon? 4?
You are in a guild of 50 or more and you can't pull four bros to run it?
Maybe its not voice chat.
Also try running a healer. Everyone wants to DPS. So if you run a healer maybe you'll get invited to the shin dig.
I've got a core group of guys and many other players who will run em when we want to get our faces melted, lol.
The people in voice chat when you are on are likely playing at the same time regularly. The voice chat has a nice way of grouping British night owls with Yankee after workers.
And PS. Try to be less condescending. Playing ultima online doesn't make you good at anything but being old, take it from a. BBS player. Skeet doop. Scrunchh scrunch beep. Oh dial up how I've missed you.
I never played ultima nice try as I've explained before I'm a console gamer that has played the mmos that have been available. You said earlier in this thread this was your first proper mmo . I'm not talking about 4 man vet dungeons either i mean the 12 and 24 man variety finding the specific roles needed at the same level wanting to run em at the same time . No need to explain the intricacies of playing a role to me I'm quite experienced with tanking and healing tyvm are you?
Uh yeah its not rocket science or some secret art.
Oh you tank? I think you mean you let the boss beat on you like you owe it money.
Oh you are a healer? I think you mean you facilitate health care for players inside your group as long as they are in your network and have enrolled during the open enrollment period.
Oh you are DPS? I guess you weren't creative or cunning enough to handle the above professions, so just press the attack button over and over until something dies. No I don't mean your will to live.
Question. What is it about MMOs that people think are so mysterious?
MMOs are just RPGs with all the fun stretched thinner and the mob grinding is turned up to 11.
I do like this game because it doesn't lean so heavily on that stuff at first.
And voice chat has been ace in our PvP guild. We are wrecking face. The main channel is tac come, the other channels are random debates, and technical discussions.
Again, this is just a game. I have an opinion about it. You have a different one.
As it stands this is just a discussion, ( one in which I support the prevailing and dominant opinion that text chat is unneeded.)
Seriously folks , ignore the immature troll with he /mic drop nonsense and so on.
He thinks still his opinion is the "dominant one". It lets you know how delusional his world is.
It's best just to ignore him/it.
No area chat IS dominant.
Because there IS no text chat.Edited by mrskinskull on July 24, 2015 4:13PM0 -
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
This is a terrible solution. A fix that requires the player to both leave the game and use 3rd party programs / websites in order to utilize the systems in the game is a failure of design, especially when those systems were 100% designed to be utilized from inside the game in the first place.
And most especially when there is already a version of the game that has been live for almost a year and half that requires no such bandaid fix.
While you may believe this to be a "reasonable" solution, many of use wholeheartedly disagree w/ such a sentiment.
How does picking up.your phone makes you leave the game?
If I'm typing on my phone, I'm most definitely not playing the game.
If you are typing on your keyboard, you are not playing the game.
Voice chat and a controller allow both communication AND gameplay at the same time on console.
Mic drop.
Communication must mean something completely different to you than it means to me. Cause most of the "communication" I hear over voice chat is blurring music, barking dogs, and derogatory slurs. Being generally constructive is a what I consider a key part of communication.4 -
Lupus_Draco .. you should really read about a game when you buy it, it was known WELL before it was released that it was Voice Chat, not Text
I'm not saying that maybe I should not have bought the game without reading every little detail. Shame on me for assuming that a MMO, A massive multilayer online game targeted at group play and massive amounts of people would have a form of communication that isn't Voice chatting with players that are 100 feet or closer to your character. I'm completely for their voice chat. I simply say that it's not really an option for a serious MMO to have a chat system that reaches multiple channels and areas. It's a necessity. It has been an MMO implementation since what,.. the beginning? If you do not surf the forums searching for a guild that matchest your interest and hopefully getting accepted into one. Or finding a decent active Trade guild. What is your option right now? Play charades with quick emotes in some form of ritual dance to get attention to yourself in your current area? Voice chat with the feedback and pets barking into the Mic from another player? Sometimes I don't even want voice chat on. If my 18 month old is napping and I'm getting in some game time. I don't want to be engaged in heated or hilarious conversations. I'd still like to communicate though. Most of us are just saying... seriously, how was this a good idea in a developers mind for any MMO.3 -
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AaronLannister✭✭✭Mighty_oakk wrote: »mrskinskull wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
Yeah I don't think people blowing 400 plus, another 60 for ESO and another 60 for online, etc, don't have the disposable income for something more useful like a smart phone.
I for one think this is a great idea and a chance to add in additional features like skyshard maps or lore books etc.
I know your solution is the answer that will likely happen.
Your not playing destiny anymore kid
Zos has based the entire game around immersion. Phones arent very immersive...
which is why the PC version has a Text Chat and also the vast majority of serious ESO players are using Damage Numbers.Edited by AaronLannister on July 24, 2015 4:17AM1
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