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Console text chat discussion
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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That's not true it is possible to coordinate groups in PVP. If you led a group in PVP on a regular basis or are in a PVP guild you would know how multiple groups stay in touch and know what the other group are doing.Group leaders well at least on Xbox know most of the other groups leaders GT by now since the same people usually run groups and they exchange Xbox live messages through smart glass to communicate and plan their next move.You can even have a party where 8 group leaders can talk and plan what go do next.If each one of those group leaders have a group of 24 that's a force of 192 players are connected and fighting as a team.Each Faction can have up to 250 players in a campaign to full all three bars.So if you have 192 players working together you kinda have the Entire AD DC or EP all working together.text chat is absolutely missing in this game
there is no possibility to coordinate in pvp
also group finder doesnt work
please add text chat so we can find new players or coordinate attacks....1 -
Zanefold✭✭✭Thumbdunked wrote: »ts not needed you can do everything in the game without text chat you all just choice not to use it.its not ZOS fault your anti-social and don't want to talk to people like normal human beings.
So you were lying when you said this:Sir I have read each and every post in thsi 61 page thread
Because nobody who had actually honestly read all of the posts where people have explained their reasons would come away with the idea that it's about being anti-social. Nor would they come away with the idea that voice chat is a solution to the issues raised in this thread.
So, you have not read each and every post in this thread.
Sir I am in no way lying I read each and every post in this now 63 page thread I was board and had nothing to do took up three hours of my team while I wàs out and about.You can not tell me my opinion is wrong when its my opinion. I stand by my original statement that you don't want to talk with people because.You will rather hide behind a keyboard and type a message Instead of having a conversation with a person using your Vocal cords.How is that being social many people have claimed that instead of talking to people most mute their mics and leave area chat or join a party by their selves instead of asking players to turn off their music or you can hear them breathing.
I also read each post where someone put up a valid reason agansit the implementation of text chat and they were ignored and told they were wrong with no proof to back it up.
So again Sir I have read each and every post and I have drawn to the conclusion that most would rather become anti-social and they wonder why they can't find a group to run a dungeon or PvP with.
As I pay the game I am continuing to see the major issues with leaving out such a basic mmo game feature. I was hesitantly in support of not having this feature in the beginning because hey throw them a bone let them try something different, but given the issues with the voip, grouping, trade, for chat, etc etc etc. Also who says being social is simple using your vocal chords as you have stated, typing a response is just as social. I guess all those deaf people signing instead of vocalizing, although some do, are anti social, stupid argument if i ever heard one. Maybe if everything else worked perfectly I might be for it but now not at all.
Wow didn't even think about that, what would you do if you were deaf? what would you do if you were deaf and BOUGHT the console version of the game?
PS hope you dont mind sharing your point of view on another forum:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/183412/mobile-support-for-console-text-chat
You would stop playing the game as i have and move onto FF14ARR Where you can actually socialize and be apart of the community. I still lurk on this thread waiting for a response though.
I used to play FF14ARR and stopped because of the monthly subscription, even max out a couple of classes... although now a subscription to FF14ARR is looking really good right now... god I miss the text chat so much. Its sad how one could take something so basic in an mmo for granted until its gone. COME BACK TO US TEXT CHAT WE MISS YOU! WHY DID YOU LEAVE US!! :-(
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Zensonar✭✭✭
I don't believe you. To dismiss all of the people who would like the addition of a text chat feature as anti-social is not only evidence of near-total ignorance of the actual arguments in favour, but also an astonishingly shallow and closed-minded way to perceive your fellow players. Wanting a more efficient trade system is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Wanting a more efficient player/group finding experience is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Frustration with random noise and bad mic usage is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Disappointment with the fact that a feature that was promised to console players (a feature that exists on the PC version) was not included is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Disappointment with the fact that a standard feature of all good MMORPGs is absent in this game, and the unsatisfactory excuses for its lack of inclusion, is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Hearing problems have nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. Even actual shyness itself is not necessarily anything to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise, given that text chat is often a way for shy people to socialise more comfortably. But above all else, wanting more options to facilitate the social aspect of games like this is nothing to do with an unwillingness or inability to socialise. It is the exact opposite of unwillingness to socialise.Sir I am in no way lying I read each and every post in this now 63 page thread I was board and had nothing to do took up three hours of my team while I wàs out and about.You can not tell me my opinion is wrong when its my opinion. I stand by my original statement that you don't want to talk with people because.You will rather hide behind a keyboard and type a message Instead of having a conversation with a person using your Vocal cords.How is that being social many people have claimed that instead of talking to people most mute their mics and leave area chat or join a party by their selves instead of asking players to turn off their music or you can hear them breathing.
I also read each post where someone put up a valid reason agansit the implementation of text chat and they were ignored and told they were wrong with no proof to back it up.
So again Sir I have read each and every post and I have drawn to the conclusion that most would rather become anti-social and they wonder why they can't find a group to run a dungeon or PvP with.
How on earth you've managed to draw your conclusion from the words people have actually typed is a mystery to me. A mystery that becomes solved if you've not actually read those words.
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KaleidoscopeEyz✭✭✭✭Typing on a console is such a pain compared to a PC. I get this has been great for PC but I can't imagine using it for console and I sure as hell am not going out to buy a keyboard for my Xbone just for this.0 -
Laranoye✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Typing on a console is such a pain compared to a PC. I get this has been great for PC but I can't imagine using it for console and I sure as hell am not going out to buy a keyboard for my Xbone just for this.
Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this. Its not even a full keyboard. I use a mini keyboard on FF ARR ect. Its really not such a big issue people are making out, if you don't want to type that's fine! but some people like too...3 -
KaleidoscopeEyz✭✭✭✭Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
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Laranoye✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
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Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Typing on a console is such a pain compared to a PC. I get this has been great for PC but I can't imagine using it for console and I sure as hell am not going out to buy a keyboard for my Xbone just for this.
Well you can get a keyboard for under $10...
Also the controller works fine, I've made every msg board post with it. I'm sure people can handle typing: LFM VoM. 6 letters and the groupfinder problem is solved2 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Proof that the majority would say they want text chat.AaronLannister wrote: »Drake_Fury wrote: »He's one of many on both sides.
Personally, I've been extremely pro text chat since before the console beta when it was first revealed by a correction that @ZOS_JasonLeavey made that it will only have voice chat. I think I predate Varicite on it, but I'm not entirely sure.
There's also the opposite side where NewBlackSmurf, defcon, and others has been against text chat since before the beta as well.
My point is that the determination and origin of when a person speaks about it is not important. What matters is pure numbers. I think. I'm still not sure ZoS has cared about this thread at all since page 8 or so.
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Oh, yes, I,m sure there are multiple people on both sides. I pointed out to him because he's the OP and I remembered seeing him pretty much throughout the thread. What I meant is more in the lines of not giving up after all this time and still continues to persevere. You guys are also determined, I'm sure of it, I just didn't take time to pay attention to who did more than 3-4 posts.
That being said. I know the devs remain silent on the problem, but the more this thread keeps going, the less they can ignore it. I'm sick of people saying it's only a vocal minority repeating the same thing all the time, because those vocal people need to do it since a lot af players A: have no idea there is an official eso forum, B: don't come because it's just people bashing each other (which it is, just like every other mmo forum), or a multitude other reasons.
I talked to quite a few people in my guild and pretty much all of them agreed that text chat should be in, but I don't see them post here, partly because they don't like forums, but also because they don't have an english as good as mine (yeah, maybe you didn't realise it but english is not my first language). The french text chat thread exists, but it's not quite as active as this one. The point is if I don't see people of my guild post here, that means there is a lot of people who want text chat, but don't come here to say it, and for their sake, I'm glad that some people are holding hard to this.
I'm sure if they did a world wide poll on the consoles and asked everybody before entering the game to answer the poll the majority would say yes for Damage numbers etc... and Text Chat.
I honestly don't know why people think having less options even on Consoles is a bad thing.
Destiny had no Option to turn music on and off this is how Obnoxious it's gotten. IT NEEDS TO STOP.
Just because I like the convenience and affordability of consoles doesn't mean you should take away these options and design choices that work well on both platforms. It's like they're treating the Console Base as idiots who don't even know how to use a KB.
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Dionysusjones✭✭✭This really needs to be addressed they see the thread ZOS should really give a yes or no answer already0
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Snowgoons✭✭✭✭Duragon_Darko wrote: »
What are you talking about? I completely am with them adding a text chat box...Rollin' round Tamriel on that skooma wasted like a failed Grand Theft Auto mission.0 -
Muletide✭✭✭Why is ZOS so against having options? We can go into a Starbucks and get the same cup of coffee 1000 different ways, but on a next gen game we have zero options for things that have been a part of games in the last decade? Let the individual decide what amount "immersion" they want. I had a USB keyboard and text chat when I played EQ and FFXI on PS2. PS2!!!!3 -
glitchedmacSoul ShrivenWow didn't even think about that, what would you do if you were deaf? what would you do if you were deaf and BOUGHT the console version of the game?
While I am not 100% deaf I can only 'hear' out of one ear. I typically have subtitles on everything and text is my preferred method of communication. The times I do use voice chat people think I am shouting... I can't really tell. Lack of text chat is a HUGE disappointment in this game.4 -
Zanefold✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Typing on a console is such a pain compared to a PC. I get this has been great for PC but I can't imagine using it for console and I sure as hell am not going out to buy a keyboard for my Xbone just for this.
Then don't use it... continue using your mic while people who want to type can type. The only reason why I can see people getting upset with the implementation of text is the fear of people scamming (best defense is common sense and people can do that with mic too) and less people using mic to talk (aside from group/group dungeon/raid use, maybe guild) meaning less people to talk to that prefer mic in towns, open areas and guilds.1 -
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That's not true it is possible to coordinate groups in PVP. If you led a group in PVP on a regular basis or are in a PVP guild you would know how multiple groups stay in touch and know what the other group are doing.Group leaders well at least on Xbox know most of the other groups leaders GT by now since the same people usually run groups and they exchange Xbox live messages through smart glass to communicate and plan their next move.You can even have a party where 8 group leaders can talk and plan what go do next.If each one of those group leaders have a group of 24 that's a force of 192 players are connected and fighting as a team.Each Faction can have up to 250 players in a campaign to full all three bars.So if you have 192 players working together you kinda have the Entire AD DC or EP all working together.text chat is absolutely missing in this game
there is no possibility to coordinate in pvp
also group finder doesnt work
please add text chat so we can find new players or coordinate attacks....
I've also suggested a guild for PvP on a server. The group leaders could switch back and forth along officer channels like a real military campaign. No keyboard needed. Everyone has both hands on the controller, just kill in and winning.1 -
I honestly don't get the hostility against text, are you really comfortable with having an inferior product to the PC? Either way are you okay with paying more for less features particularly when it's $60 for less features?2
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navyspeed✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.1 -
navyspeed✭✭✭fusionyugib14_ESO wrote: »I honestly don't get the hostility against text, are you really comfortable with having an inferior product to the PC? Either way are you okay with paying more for less features particularly when it's $60 for less features?
How is it inferior? By all accounts this game plays better on console then it has on PC.1 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Or maybe you dont know the difference between an mmo and small coop play...
Every mmo on console has text that i have played3 -
Zanefold✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Not every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only, and definably 99.9% of mmos use text chat on consoles.0 -
Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Sounds like you are new to mmos.
Every major fantasy mmo on consoles has had text chat going back to early FFXI , then FFXIV , then Neverwinter and so on.
Xbox and PS.
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Dekkameron✭✭✭✭✭I used to play Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast using a keyboard to chat....- Veteran Combat Librarian -1 -
DonFaleSoul ShrivenThis Game needs text chat so bad on console.
atm i cant ask if anyone is in cherno...
+1 vote for Text Chat!0 -
fusionyugib14_ESO wrote: »I honestly don't get the hostility against text, are you really comfortable with having an inferior product to the PC? Either way are you okay with paying more for less features particularly when it's $60 for less features?
How is it inferior? By all accounts this game plays better on console then it has on PC.
A game running better doesn't mean it's not missing features. The fact text chat existed in the beta test means they had to put in effort to remove it. Removing features is almost never a good idea and I will never buy ZoS's excuses for it omission, that being said I actually have no issues with in-game voice chat but the problem is that it's the only option. Text is a staple feature for a reason.0 -
Laranoye✭✭✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Actually i've been playing PC and consoles for over 20 years... Console multiplayer games are VASTLY different to actual MMO games such as this.
People are still unable to grasp the simple concept of an mmo requiring text chat and still defiant to the end to defend a VoIP chat only system...
Again its not like we are demanding they remove VoIP?!? Your also missing the point you are able to hide the text box if you so wish... So i really don't see what the problem is?!0 -
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✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Not every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only, and definably 99.9% of mmos use text chat on consoles.
That's not true 3/4 of console MMO use Text chat.1/2 on Xbox 1 and 2/3 on PS4 am sorry but your math is completely wrong and I most ask how did you come to that number.Edited by Jaronking on July 22, 2015 8:03PM1 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭At this point anyone arguing that it shouldnt be added because they dont experience the issues that others have must not be going to social zones or are spending their time in game that isnt peak hours.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax1 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Why is this thread still "on fire" with absolutely no response from a mod or dev? Unbelievable..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.2 -
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ZOS have been taking lessons from the DCUO school of communication.Duragon_Darko wrote: »Why is this thread still "on fire" with absolutely no response from a mod or dev? Unbelievable.
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