Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »my favorite thing to do is use my ganking builds in the middle of Pug zerg vs Pug zerg...
its amazing how easy it is to single out a single guy and kill them, then use the randoms nearby as a smoke screen..
hell i can Dark flare Jesus beam with my templar and get away with it 90% of the time doing this (the 10% when another of the same mindset gets the drop on me)
anyways moving stealth when everyone around you isnt is really fun...
its fun on my Sorc, my NB and my Templar but not on my DK... i just like being a target on my DK that is hard to kill and impossible for enemys to get off rezes near. so no stealth for that one^^ (not much option really since i main tank PvE with that one, its damm costly to swap Attributes and Champain point if i want to whip spam, which is admittedly fun)
anyways i have managed kill streaks against Red hyper zergs without getting caught by their pushes simply by using the randoms nearby as cover... I dont rely on them at all to help me, but as a meat shield i quite enjoy their presence.... sure those kills get rezzed up, but that just gives me the chance to kill them again.
that said... point 8... you will die a lot if you dont get point 8
Sorcs and NBs and Vampires and Stamina builds... Point #8
Just seek the help of Sheliza "The Unkillable"
But is not dying less often when you say Sheliza
It is not dying at all.
That's the best guide I know.
Cheers!
Thank you!DeanTheCat wrote: »Always glad to see new soldiers on the battlefield. Good luck out there! Just remember, don't be discouraged. We all started out as newbies once.
What support spells reveal enemy allies in sneak?
Thanks @Endek @DeanTheCat
I meant to ask what support spells reveal your own allies in sneak due to animations including beams from Regeneration?
Trying to not expose allies and sometimes see chat saying to stop casting when buffing sneaking allies.
DeanTheCat wrote: »Thanks @Endek @DeanTheCat
I meant to ask what support spells reveal your own allies in sneak due to animations including beams from Regeneration?
Trying to not expose allies and sometimes see chat saying to stop casting when buffing sneaking allies.
Regeneration (Most blatant offender), Rushed Ceremony, Grand Healing, Sap Essence, Rite of Passage, Siege Shield, Obsidian Shield, Retreating Maneuvers, Bone Shield Synergy, Barrier, War Horn, Proximity Detonation.
Also, do note that even if you can't be seen by the enemy, you can still be heard. Annulment is kinda the worst offender in this regard due to the constant twinkling sound. I have managed to track down sneaking enemies just by sound alone. Heck, I can hear even your footsteps and your sheathing and unsheathing of your weapons. Still, tracking via sound is kinda an art onto itself, and not many people in Cyrodiil can do it consistently, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Still worth knowing about the fact that it exists.
EDIT: Forgot to mention about those Dwemer Spheres from the Engine Guardian set. I can see them and their beam even when you sneak.
DeanTheCat wrote: »Thanks @Endek @DeanTheCat
I meant to ask what support spells reveal your own allies in sneak due to animations including beams from Regeneration?
Trying to not expose allies and sometimes see chat saying to stop casting when buffing sneaking allies.
Regeneration (Most blatant offender), Rushed Ceremony, Grand Healing, Sap Essence, Rite of Passage, Siege Shield, Obsidian Shield, Retreating Maneuvers, Bone Shield Synergy, Barrier, War Horn, Proximity Detonation.
Also, do note that even if you can't be seen by the enemy, you can still be heard. Annulment is kinda the worst offender in this regard due to the constant twinkling sound. I have managed to track down sneaking enemies just by sound alone. Heck, I can hear even your footsteps and your sheathing and unsheathing of your weapons. Still, tracking via sound is kinda an art onto itself, and not many people in Cyrodiil can do it consistently, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Still worth knowing about the fact that it exists.
EDIT: Forgot to mention about those Dwemer Spheres from the Engine Guardian set. I can see them and their beam even when you sneak.
But the beam won't actually lead you to any competent player.
The sphere "engages" on it's own and the beam can not be traced back to an invisible enemy (who will move).
Of course it will help you find someone who is sneaking with no visible enemies nearby. In that situation there was no point to both sneaking and using skills because of the sound, like you said, in the first place.
So don't get discouraged to use that set, it can actually be very useful to confuse your enemies.
Knootewoot wrote: »Thread is awesome.
To bad vanity pets are no longer allowed in Cyrodill. I loved it that people sneak around with their pet out. Was much easier then detect potions.
Good post, though I have to ask a question ... Why did I get a horrible message from a player who had multiple seige weapons in the go and I sat beside them repairing them as they dropped to below 50% as I'm new to PvP I didn't want to use siege weapons ineffectively so I figured I play repair and maintenance ... Oh no ..
Is this frowned upon ?
*than risk losingIt is better to let the opponent go, then risk losing all your Tel-Var stones.
DeanTheCat wrote: »Made further edits to the guide (Thanks @frozywozy ).Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »my favorite thing to do is use my ganking builds in the middle of Pug zerg vs Pug zerg...
its amazing how easy it is to single out a single guy and kill them, then use the randoms nearby as a smoke screen..
hell i can Dark flare Jesus beam with my templar and get away with it 90% of the time doing this (the 10% when another of the same mindset gets the drop on me)
anyways moving stealth when everyone around you isnt is really fun...
its fun on my Sorc, my NB and my Templar but not on my DK... i just like being a target on my DK that is hard to kill and impossible for enemys to get off rezes near. so no stealth for that one^^ (not much option really since i main tank PvE with that one, its damm costly to swap Attributes and Champain point if i want to whip spam, which is admittedly fun)
anyways i have managed kill streaks against Red hyper zergs without getting caught by their pushes simply by using the randoms nearby as cover... I dont rely on them at all to help me, but as a meat shield i quite enjoy their presence.... sure those kills get rezzed up, but that just gives me the chance to kill them again.
that said... point 8... you will die a lot if you dont get point 8
Sorcs and NBs and Vampires and Stamina builds... Point #8
Try doing that from the rear, most people never expect that as they think that because their allies are protecting them, they are safe from rearguard attacks. It's especially effective on the AD that populate the Alessia-Sejanus-BRK express on EU TB.
Only the Lingering Morph of that ability is truly effective, as if you took the damage morph, I can simply cloak to dispel it (It counts as a DoT when you take the damage morph).
As a PVE player, this was really interesting to read.*than risk losingIt is better to let the opponent go, then risk losing all your Tel-Var stones.
Remember: Then is for the answer to When. It even rhymes!