Flawlless wrote: »

VE used to be one of the best small scale fighting guilds out there, but with the current meta of AD and DC guilds running 2-3 raids in the same TS unfortunately 4 mans don't quite cut it anymore in most situations

Are you joking? Two to three DC guild raids in the same TS? In what strange fantasy land does this occur? Most DC guilds are pug guilds and some of them don't even require TS.

NPK runs 3 raids from what I hear.

3 full raids doesn't even pop lock 1 server, are you that dumb?

CITADALO wrote: »

Another BS video of impulse monkeys spamming one key.

Oh, and the gankers that slot only wrecking blow are better?

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

Another BS video of impulse monkeys spamming one key.

Oh, and the gankers that slot only wrecking blow are better?

they are both BS ,zerging and gankers.

Yeah that's exactly how it went down. Ignorance. [/quote]

Slaves and ignorance that's too much.

Poxheart wrote: »

Sixty randos gathered using a group autoinvite tool in /z are still pugs no matter how you want to frame it. Here's what somebody who actually joined an NPK group had to tell me about the experience:

I never said NPK was super good. And you don't really need to be with 60 people....yes they are still mostly pugs and we still win most of the time despite the numbers but when you throw in lag and Keep flags and how they only respond to how many people are standing on them... Well do that math. It sucks. So don't try and tell me DC doesn't have zergs, I've lost Chalman to them countless times. And you know what at least DC has someone trying to do something for them. Better than rolling over like a dog.

x99Needles wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

x99Needles wrote: »

Mako1132 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Great video.

However am I the only person confused as why a video would be posted when you outnumber most people 24vX(>16) in all engagements? I mean you have a nice control of said group, but isn't it easy by now?

Didnt make it past the fight on roof where they fight less than 10 DC and laugh like theyve just done something. Its a good thing someone took in the pride members, their members werent doing too well against FENGRUSH last campaign on azura.

I was dumb enough to watch the whole thing... they do that like 4 more times... its kind of embarrassing to watch when a bunch of them scream out in joy after killing like... 10 people . Shoot me in the face if that was a teamspeak I had to deal with.

You must be referring to the DC wipe in the upper level of the keep. While it wasn't an insurmountable group of players it was still a funny wipe when they all died instantly. If you are referring to the end when sandy says to start teabagging something, that was at least 20 players that got the jump on us inside the breach if you cannot tell by my frantic calls in the start. We turned and wiped them so yeah, it was enjoyable and screams of joy were warranted. As for shooting you in the face because you can't handle the sound of laughter then my friend you need more of it in your life because it's too short not to laugh.

CITADALO wrote: »

x99Needles wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Good leadership, group stays tight, very vocal overall great video and guild. All I ask is to show when you get wiped also.

Well this is a highlight and we do wipe in the beginning 14people with a 65 kill streak. I'm not even trying to say we never wipe. Cmon now it's Cyrodiil. Maybe I'll do a glorious wipe video next. Appreciate the compliments in all the hate. see you on that field Slax.

WRX wrote: »

Great video.

However am I the only person confused as why a video would be posted when you outnumber most people 24vX(>16) in all engagements? I mean you have a nice control of said group, but isn't it easy by now?

I think the only Time it was 24v16 was the end of the video against you man. Which is the smallest we've almost ever fought you. It wasn't an "omfg get rekt decibel" it was just a good clip because we wiped two enemy forces and took the keep.

As for the rest of the comments. If anyone has a problem with Cyrodiils group size limit, take it up with ZOS. I'm leading my guys and we are playing the game the way it was intended. Love me, hate me, I'm going to keep playing this game. Your hate only fuels

x99Needles wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Good leadership, group stays tight, very vocal overall great video and guild. All I ask is to show when you get wiped also.

Well this is a highlight and we do wipe in the beginning 14people with a 65 kill streak. I'm not even trying to say we never wipe. Cmon now it's Cyrodiil. Maybe I'll do a glorious wipe video next. Appreciate the compliments in all the hate. see you on that field Slax.

WRX wrote: »

Great video.

However am I the only person confused as why a video would be posted when you outnumber most people 24vX(>16) in all engagements? I mean you have a nice control of said group, but isn't it easy by now?

I think the only Time it was 24v16 was the end of the video against you man. Which is the smallest we've almost ever fought you. It wasn't an "omfg get rekt decibel" it was just a good clip because we wiped two enemy forces and took the keep.

As for the rest of the comments. If anyone has a problem with Cyrodiils group size limit, take it up with ZOS. I'm leading my guys and we are playing the game the way it was intended. Love me, hate me, I'm going to keep playing this game. Your hate only fuels

Slaves don't get hated, your thread have 400 views and i don't see any positive comment except your guildies . The question here is there something wrong with your video?

I don't appreciate you referring to my guild members as slaves. Slaves don't have a choice. They follow me. There is a difference. Direct your disdain towards me their leader, not them if you truly despise this kind of play as I am the root. Slaxis and WRX who are both respected guild leads of an opposing faction had positive things to say with their own individual opinions which I respect. Jinxy is also not a member of VE as she is in a DC guild. But only negative comments and guildies post on my threads. Thank you for taking time out of your day to post yet again and keep the thread active I genuinely appreciate it.

Slavery with consent

I don't think you understand the meaning of that word. Perhaps you should reevaluate your choice.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

x99Needles wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Good leadership, group stays tight, very vocal overall great video and guild. All I ask is to show when you get wiped also.

Well this is a highlight and we do wipe in the beginning 14people with a 65 kill streak. I'm not even trying to say we never wipe. Cmon now it's Cyrodiil. Maybe I'll do a glorious wipe video next. Appreciate the compliments in all the hate. see you on that field Slax.

WRX wrote: »

Great video.

However am I the only person confused as why a video would be posted when you outnumber most people 24vX(>16) in all engagements? I mean you have a nice control of said group, but isn't it easy by now?

I'm leading my guys and we are playing the game the way it was intended.

FENGRUSH plays the game the way it was not intended, <4 people!

I respect the way you choose to play the game FENGRUSH. I would never bash you for playing as you desire despite your vocal disapproval towards myself and my guild.

Xsorus wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

There was nothing wrong with there video or the number of opposing enemies they killed. The game has 24 slot grps which can and should be filled when running a guild group. Also if there moral is high because of the success they have and express it through team speak whats wrong with that. There is nothing more gratifying as a leader to see the people who follow you happy and poking fun. Keep up the good work Vehemence see you on the battle field.

Saying guilds should fill all 24 slots when forming a Guild Group is silly, Just because you can form a Raid doesn't mean you should always do it when running with your guild...and 24 people is a Raid or Zerg..whichever hurts your feelings less.

I still recommend not comparing two entirely different games to make your points. No one cares about what you used to play. We are all playing this now. I would also never presume to tell you how to play or run your guild or anything that relates to your own choices that I have no right or place to judge. Maybe the same courtesy could be extended in the future. Thank you for taking the time to watch my completely unwatchable video.

Slaxis wrote: »

There was nothing wrong with there video or the number of opposing enemies they killed. The game has 24 slot grps which can and should be filled when running a guild group. Also if there moral is high because of the success they have and express it through team speak whats wrong with that. There is nothing more gratifying as a leader to see the people who follow you happy and poking fun. Keep up the good work Vehemence see you on the battle field.

Looking forward to it. Thank you Slaxis

Jinxycat wrote: »

x99Needles wrote: »

I don't appreciate you referring to my guild members as slaves. Slaves don't have a choice. They follow me. There is a difference. Direct your disdain towards me their leader, not them if you truly despise this kind of play as I am the root. Slaxis and WRX who are both respected guild leads of an opposing faction had positive things to say with their own individual opinions which I respect. Jinxy is also not a member of VE as she is in a DC guild. But only negative comments and guildies post on my threads. Thank you for taking time out of your day to post yet again and keep the thread active I genuinely appreciate it.

Actually I am in an AD guild xD. But carry on..

I meant AD! I don't know why I said C xD sorry Jinx

Jules wrote: »

Mako1132 wrote: »

Continue the circle jerk, its only you guys doing it.

lol oh bells xD

Everytime you open your mouth to tell me how you are playing an entirely different game then gw2 or daoc and that its ok to zerg because of this I take what you say even less seriously then before.

For starters the games both feature similar setup to this, so saying they are different is foolish, and second you are doing the same strategy every single pug and guild group in gw2 did, you aren't doing anything new.. And just like gw2 once you got past a certain number, the fights became a bloody mess to watch. You might not like that feedback but that's how it is. You either accept it or don't.

I am not hating on the video. But what sad state has this game fallen to that guild highlights are now of zergs raids fighting fewer numbers? It's like ZoS decided that instead of fixing the broken stuff and leaving in the good stuff, they'd remove the good stuff and add more broken stuff.

Things like this never happen anymore, sadly. I think most people would be happier if we could return to the days when this was possible.

^
was seriously like the good ol days (well, at least as much as it can be in 1.6)

also, VE- gf a little while ago

omg... its a PvP video with a soundtrack i can enjoy.

Looking at the NM video I just realized no one used Retreating Maneuvers! Oh my lord, they moved so slow. I remember having people run it all the way back in Hijinx on Bloodthorn. Also so much ground oil.

As for killing mass numbers of people in a short time... I mean, we can post farm videos but generally people seem to look down on those. It's not hard to find a bunch of blues at Glade Lumber or a ton of yellows at Alessia Farm. We don't really post that because it's fun but there's not a lot of glory in it. It's fun fighting GvG, which is why most of our clips include another known force that we're facing off against.

Everytime you open your mouth to tell me how you are playing an entirely different game then gw2 or daoc and that its ok to zerg because of this I take what you say even less seriously then before.

For starters the games both feature similar setup to this, so saying they are different is foolish, and second you are doing the same strategy every single pug and guild group in gw2 did, you aren't doing anything new.. And just like gw2 once you got past a certain number, the fights became a bloody mess to watch. You might not like that feedback but that's how it is. You either accept it or don't.

Xsorus, lay off it. I know you have no room in your heart for any PvP that is over 8vX, but come on. I've never been anything but respectful to you and your guys, and have had good fights with you, Vesir, Lowbie, etc. To continually come into our threads and tell us that we need to play a certain way because it was that way in a game released 10 years ago is just asinine. Play by the rules of what you're playing, and build the team you need to be competitive. Our 4-mans were lots of fun (and if a competitive area to do that in arrives we will be there), but you can't control a map with a 4-man, you can't hold keeps, take keeps, win campaigns with one. And we'd rather do that than sit back and watch other people do it, and complain about their group size.

CITADALO wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I am not hating on the video. But what sad state has this game fallen to that guild highlights are now of zergs raids fighting fewer numbers? It's like ZoS decided that instead of fixing the broken stuff and leaving in the good stuff, they'd remove the good stuff and add more broken stuff.

Things like this never happen anymore, sadly. I think most people would be happier if we could return to the days when this was possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkUet2pAdg

We actually did basically the same thing as that video last night on Thornblade. We fought continuously against EP for over an hour outside Farragut.

T

Satiar wrote: »

Looking at the NM video I just realized no one used Retreating Maneuvers! Oh my lord, they moved so slow. I remember having people run it all the way back in Hijinx on Bloodthorn. Also so much ground oil.

As for killing mass numbers of people in a short time... I mean, we can post farm videos but generally people seem to look down on those. It's not hard to find a bunch of blues at Glade Lumber or a ton of yellows at Alessia Farm. We don't really post that because it's fun but there's not a lot of glory in it. It's fun fighting GvG, which is why most of our clips include another known force that we're facing off against.

Everytime you open your mouth to tell me how you are playing an entirely different game then gw2 or daoc and that its ok to zerg because of this I take what you say even less seriously then before.

For starters the games both feature similar setup to this, so saying they are different is foolish, and second you are doing the same strategy every single pug and guild group in gw2 did, you aren't doing anything new.. And just like gw2 once you got past a certain number, the fights became a bloody mess to watch. You might not like that feedback but that's how it is. You either accept it or don't.

Xsorus, lay off it. I know you have no room in your heart for any PvP that is over 8vX, but come on. I've never been anything but respectful to you and your guys, and have had good fights with you, Vesir, Lowbie, etc. To continually come into our threads and tell us that we need to play a certain way because it was that way in a game released 10 years ago is just asinine. Play by the rules of what you're playing, and build the team you need to be competitive. Our 4-mans were lots of fun (and if a competitive area to do that in arrives we will be there), but you can't control a map with a 4-man, you can't hold keeps, take keeps, win campaigns with one. And we'd rather do that than sit back and watch other people do it, and complain about their group size.

Do what you want , its your choice. You posted a video and i have the right to comment it. For me there is no skill involved in that kind of play style (zerging). The difference between your zerg and other zerg is who stacking better and executing leader group order.Most of the threads on this forum show that there is no admiration for zerging , so don't tell me what you doing demand skills.

I guess it's almost be as bad as if he'd posted a video of a vamp DK in pre-1.2 era that used the Crow's Wood leveling bug to boost themselves above the competition and then block casted bugged, stacking bats repeatedly. That level of "skill", right?

CITADALO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I am not hating on the video. But what sad state has this game fallen to that guild highlights are now of zergs raids fighting fewer numbers? It's like ZoS decided that instead of fixing the broken stuff and leaving in the good stuff, they'd remove the good stuff and add more broken stuff.

Things like this never happen anymore, sadly. I think most people would be happier if we could return to the days when this was possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkUet2pAdg

We actually did basically the same thing as that video last night on Thornblade. We fought continuously against EP for over an hour outside Farragut.

T

Satiar wrote: »

Looking at the NM video I just realized no one used Retreating Maneuvers! Oh my lord, they moved so slow. I remember having people run it all the way back in Hijinx on Bloodthorn. Also so much ground oil.

As for killing mass numbers of people in a short time... I mean, we can post farm videos but generally people seem to look down on those. It's not hard to find a bunch of blues at Glade Lumber or a ton of yellows at Alessia Farm. We don't really post that because it's fun but there's not a lot of glory in it. It's fun fighting GvG, which is why most of our clips include another known force that we're facing off against.

Everytime you open your mouth to tell me how you are playing an entirely different game then gw2 or daoc and that its ok to zerg because of this I take what you say even less seriously then before.

For starters the games both feature similar setup to this, so saying they are different is foolish, and second you are doing the same strategy every single pug and guild group in gw2 did, you aren't doing anything new.. And just like gw2 once you got past a certain number, the fights became a bloody mess to watch. You might not like that feedback but that's how it is. You either accept it or don't.

Xsorus, lay off it. I know you have no room in your heart for any PvP that is over 8vX, but come on. I've never been anything but respectful to you and your guys, and have had good fights with you, Vesir, Lowbie, etc. To continually come into our threads and tell us that we need to play a certain way because it was that way in a game released 10 years ago is just asinine. Play by the rules of what you're playing, and build the team you need to be competitive. Our 4-mans were lots of fun (and if a competitive area to do that in arrives we will be there), but you can't control a map with a 4-man, you can't hold keeps, take keeps, win campaigns with one. And we'd rather do that than sit back and watch other people do it, and complain about their group size.

Do what you want , its your choice. You posted a video and i have the right to comment it. For me there is no skill involved in that kind of play style (zerging). The difference between your zerg and other zerg is who stacking better and executing leader group order.Most of the threads on this forum show that there is no admiration for zerging , so don't tell me what you doing demand skills.

I guess it's almost be as bad as if he'd posted a video of a vamp DK in pre-1.2 era that used the Crow's Wood leveling bug to boost themselves above the competition and then block casted bugged, stacking bats repeatedly. That level of "skill", right?

I don't see any DK video posted on this thread, what you talking about?

Who said it was in this thread?

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

CITADALO wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

hammayolettuce wrote: »

I am not hating on the video. But what sad state has this game fallen to that guild highlights are now of zergs raids fighting fewer numbers? It's like ZoS decided that instead of fixing the broken stuff and leaving in the good stuff, they'd remove the good stuff and add more broken stuff.

Things like this never happen anymore, sadly. I think most people would be happier if we could return to the days when this was possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDkUet2pAdg

We actually did basically the same thing as that video last night on Thornblade. We fought continuously against EP for over an hour outside Farragut.

T

Satiar wrote: »

Looking at the NM video I just realized no one used Retreating Maneuvers! Oh my lord, they moved so slow. I remember having people run it all the way back in Hijinx on Bloodthorn. Also so much ground oil.

As for killing mass numbers of people in a short time... I mean, we can post farm videos but generally people seem to look down on those. It's not hard to find a bunch of blues at Glade Lumber or a ton of yellows at Alessia Farm. We don't really post that because it's fun but there's not a lot of glory in it. It's fun fighting GvG, which is why most of our clips include another known force that we're facing off against.

Everytime you open your mouth to tell me how you are playing an entirely different game then gw2 or daoc and that its ok to zerg because of this I take what you say even less seriously then before.

For starters the games both feature similar setup to this, so saying they are different is foolish, and second you are doing the same strategy every single pug and guild group in gw2 did, you aren't doing anything new.. And just like gw2 once you got past a certain number, the fights became a bloody mess to watch. You might not like that feedback but that's how it is. You either accept it or don't.

Xsorus, lay off it. I know you have no room in your heart for any PvP that is over 8vX, but come on. I've never been anything but respectful to you and your guys, and have had good fights with you, Vesir, Lowbie, etc. To continually come into our threads and tell us that we need to play a certain way because it was that way in a game released 10 years ago is just asinine. Play by the rules of what you're playing, and build the team you need to be competitive. Our 4-mans were lots of fun (and if a competitive area to do that in arrives we will be there), but you can't control a map with a 4-man, you can't hold keeps, take keeps, win campaigns with one. And we'd rather do that than sit back and watch other people do it, and complain about their group size.

Do what you want , its your choice. You posted a video and i have the right to comment it. For me there is no skill involved in that kind of play style (zerging). The difference between your zerg and other zerg is who stacking better and executing leader group order.Most of the threads on this forum show that there is no admiration for zerging , so don't tell me what you doing demand skills.

I guess it's almost be as bad as if he'd posted a video of a vamp DK in pre-1.2 era that used the Crow's Wood leveling bug to boost themselves above the competition and then block casted bugged, stacking bats repeatedly. That level of "skill", right?

I don't see any DK video posted on this thread, what you talking about?

Who said it was in this thread?

So where did you saw that video posted?