Motifs and Ring of Mara are in the Crown Shop!!!

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

Khaldar wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Rings of mara is a yes for me. Motifs ... if they have the purple and imperial motifs welp good by wasting 60k gold :-D

Not looking good if just weeks after the buy to play conversion we're already seeing valuable items for sale in the cash shop, devaluing the ones people earned or bought in game immediately. Rare or valuable items shouldn't be for sale for cash in the first place and I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

LOL... Devaluing? Crown items are B2A.

$15 = 1 month subscription
$15 = 1500 crowns
$15 = 1 purple motif >>>> 20-30k gold for a Purple Moif
$50 = 1 yellow motif >>>> 60-100k gold for an Imperial Motif

While some people won't blink spending that money, most gamers can't afford to throw money like that at a game. There has been a surge in people online lately since the game went B2P for a reason.

This is not a big deal. But some people need the bait to scream the sky is falling.

I need a motif.
Another player wants to sell me the motif.
I buy it for real money from the cash shop instead.
The other player doesn't get to sell his motif and the demand drops, making him have to cut his gold pricing to get it to sell.

How does the item being Bind to Account affect this in any way, shape, or form? It doesn't.

Kelleton · April 2015

Zhoyzu wrote: »

Afraid of how bloated the DLC costs are going to be.....

just get a sub then

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

You are only focusing on the rare motifs. The bread and butter of the Motif trade has just been nerfed into the ground. One months subscription means a player can buy all the Blue Motifs from the Crown Store.

Hmm lets think, pay $2 for a motif that costs 200-500 gold in game or spend 10 minutes completing a quest to get 200-500 gold in game. I think I know what I'd do.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

How many people shelled out in other pay to win setups as the games sunk so they could "pwn noobs"? Many. Why would that be different here? I knew people in my brief time in Archeage who had dumped hundreds of bucks, a couple even thousands, o they could have the ultimate gear and butcher people for fun until everyone quit after they finally had the concept of pay to win's effect dawn on them. You know that adage... "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."

Oh yea because motifs are clearly going to appeal to that p2w crowd. Daedric gear is know to give you the ability to "pwn all noobs."

I'm not saying no one will buy them but to assume that so many people will fork out big bucks for them, resulting in the ruin of the motif economy, is a bit over presumptuous.

Same pattern as every other game that went b2p or f2p. The last sentence of the post you quoted me in says it all .

So you're saying what? Motifs will eventually lead to a P2W model? Motifs will lead to the downfall of the economy? Motifs will lead to all gear/items/levels/champion points/achievements/sky shards/lore books/alliance points to eventually be sold in the crown shop? All of the above?

So far the only controversial issue that the crown shop has introduced is exp boosters and there are plenty of threads to talk about that if you want. Some people are upset about them, some aren't.

Zenimax said they would not offer p2w items in the crown shop and I'm inclined to take their word for it, until they give me a reason not to. A real reason, not paranoid speculations. If they do introduce things that I don't approve of, and it bothers me enough, I'll just quit. Until that time, I'll continue to support them.

Used this in another thread but it applies here..

Ley wrote: »

Think maybe you're over reacting a little bit?
Reminds me of my 5th grade teacher (back in the 90's) who saw me scribbling on the desk and basically told me that scribbling on the desk lead to hard drugs and murder.

I remember when I trusted them as they told me the game would never have a cash shop and would always be subscription based.

They never said there wouldn't be a cash shop. In fact, it was there from the beginning with mounts.

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

Scotia · April 2015

Why does not Zen just sell gold in the store? Same thing right?

I wont be buying any of this stuff unless they put unique items in the store or expacs.

The game is dying a slow death now down this road.

driosketch · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I need a motif.
Another player wants to sell me the motif.
I buy it for real money from the cash shop instead.
The other player doesn't get to sell his motif and the demand drops, making him have to cut his gold pricing to get it to sell.

Other players offers to sell you the motif for half the price in real cash. Real money trade market in ESO is born.

Sallington · April 2015

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

To those defending it. Its not that we don't understand that they need money. We get that which is why we bought the game and paid the subscription. And it's not sbout "Just ignoring it" or any other stupid ass thing you come up with to deal with it. Some people are just tired of the crap

“We feel pretty strongly about the support we’re going to have for the game and what you’re going to get for those dollars […] not here’s a new sword or here’s a funny hat–but content that is real and significant and it feels like regular and consistent DLC releases.

Where was the significant DLC releases? The one half ass zone that people hated?

[A free-to-play game] just seems like a lesser game, and we’re not going to make a lesser game that might be more palatable […] we want to do the version that we think is the best game and the coolest experience. And that means putting a lot of people and a lot of content creators towards having stuff that comes our regularly; every four weeks, five weeks, six weeks. Big new stuff that you want to do.” -Pete Hines

B2P is not much different and now its the lesser game

"The reason why we don’t need F2P is we have a huge IP behind this. We’re not that worried about getting people in the door."- Matt Firor

The Elder Scrolls Online Will be 'Lag-Free' at Launch, Promises Bethesda-http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/20879/article/the-elder-scrolls-online-will-be-leg-free-at-launch-promises-bethesda/

Unfortunately launch was less laggy but not lag free

Will the cash shop be intrusive? I really like the minimal UI you guys have going on in the game, and I would totally hate to have a large spinning dollar/septim/crown/whatever telling me to "BUY ALL THE STUFF", especially if I am a current subscriber.

The crown store is not intended to be intrusive. We do not direct the player to it or pop it up in front of you when you run out of potions.

Its just there when you want it. - AMA reddit

Popping up advertisement is intrusive. No matter which way you defend it popping up crap in your face is intrusive plain and bloody simple

Sage emphasized that ZeniMax built ESO with the goal to have 200 players on the screen at once without performance issues or culling. He told me that testing on minimum spec machines has proven that it can be done and that ZeniMax is extremely focused on metrics and getting this right. Given studio head Matt Firor's Dark Age of Camelot pedigree, it's easy to see the source of that confidence.

Have you ever been able to have 200 people on screen? Even at launch there wasn't 200 people on screen

Sage assuaged most of my fears, however, when he mentioned that once you hit level 50 and decide to play in another alliance's areas, you'll be able to play with friends in that faction. So at the endgame, things begin to open up and you can group up, chat, and run dungeons with players of other factions. The one area where things remain separate is, of course, the Alliance War in Cyrodiil.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I've never wanted to buy someone a beer more in my life.

Prizax · April 2015

Can't wait to grind with my XP/CP potions

Snowstrider · April 2015

can you buy the new stuff on NA server? no new stuff on eu yet

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

Scotia wrote: »

Why does not Zen just sell gold in the store? Same thing right?

I wont be buying any of this stuff unless they put unique items in the store or expacs.

The game is dying a slow death now down this road.

The sky is indeed actually falling.

Ley · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

Are we playing the same game?
Imperial or the Palomino Horse were same as the standard horse.

EQBallzz · April 2015

Danikat wrote: »

I'm definitely surprised by this, but other than that I'm not quite sure how I feel yet.

I had been assuming the crown store would sell different things to what's in-game. Like they did with the mounts - you want a black and white horse you go to the crown store, you want a plain black one you buy it with in-game gold. Selling the exact same items, especially when it's something that's part of the player-to-player economy complicates things.

I'd be more concerned if they weren't so expensive. As it is I can't imagine many people paying real money for them, which will probably reduce the impact, but it will definitely be interesting to see what this does to motif prices in-game.

I think people are missing the big picture. People are now saying that the price is so high that it won't affect in-game economy much but how long will they stay at that price? It's only a matter of time (sooner rather than later is my guess) that these prices will drop and buying them with crowns becomes the norm rather than from players in-game. It's just another example of this game sliding towards the Neverwinter model. It won't surprise me to see casino boxes soon.

Neverwinter is coming.

Elsonso · April 2015

Ley wrote: »

So let me get this straight, Zenimax should avoid making money to support their game/company/employees, if it results in you losing anywhere around 10%-25% of your in game gold income?

No, they should be making money. They should not have to sell their soul to Molag Bal in return for a pittance.

People see the Crown Store as the successful path to making money, and filling it up with stuff to buy is all goodness. I see the Crown Store as Plan B, where Plan A was a failure. I don't see Plan A as a bad plan, but they did not remain a premium subscription game, so failure. Can they execute on Plan B? Too soon to tell, but that is why they have things called "Plan C".

Most of what I said yesterday during the National Dog Day fiasco was centered around elements of Plan A. Encourage your friends to buy ESO. Encourage people to be ESO Plus members. Encourage people to spend deeply in the Crown Store. Plan A is dead, but parts of Plan A might save Plan B from the introduction of Plan C. Plan C is full on Pay To Win with level boosts, armor, weapons... a no holds barred cash store selling some of the finest things in the game.

If they are not already prepping and brainstorming ideas for Plan C, they are asleep.

So, if you want the game to be around next year, and if you want lag fixed, and if you want new content, BUT you don't want Pay To Win in the cash store and you want a passive and unobtrusive cash store, then the only suggestion that I have is to start spending money and get your friends to spend money, too. Make Plan B work. While ZOS will never say so, anyone who picks up the game and never drops another dime hastens the introduction of Plan C.

Thavie · April 2015

I don't even understand who need to buy motifs with crowns. There is not much thing to buy with ingame gold and motifs are part of them. What will you do with all your gold if you'll not spend it on such a things? Eat it? Keep it for your children?

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

Are we playing the same game?
Imperial or the Palomino Horse were same as the standard horse.

No, they weren't. They had the base stats of the basic horse available for 11,200 gold in-game. There was no way at all to buy the good mounts, which carried a large stat advantage, other than earning gold in-game and doing so for 42,700 gold each. The basic horse could only ever reach a maximum speed of 65%, while the good horse could be trained up to 75%, for example. At least have your facts straight, please, even if you disagree.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2015

wraith808 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

You are only focusing on the rare motifs. The bread and butter of the Motif trade has just been nerfed into the ground. One months subscription means a player can buy all the Blue Motifs from the Crown Store.

Hmm lets think, pay $2 for a motif that costs 200-500 gold in game or spend 10 minutes completing a quest to get 200-500 gold in game. I think I know what I'd do.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

How many people shelled out in other pay to win setups as the games sunk so they could "pwn noobs"? Many. Why would that be different here? I knew people in my brief time in Archeage who had dumped hundreds of bucks, a couple even thousands, o they could have the ultimate gear and butcher people for fun until everyone quit after they finally had the concept of pay to win's effect dawn on them. You know that adage... "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."

Oh yea because motifs are clearly going to appeal to that p2w crowd. Daedric gear is know to give you the ability to "pwn all noobs."

I'm not saying no one will buy them but to assume that so many people will fork out big bucks for them, resulting in the ruin of the motif economy, is a bit over presumptuous.

Same pattern as every other game that went b2p or f2p. The last sentence of the post you quoted me in says it all .

So you're saying what? Motifs will eventually lead to a P2W model? Motifs will lead to the downfall of the economy? Motifs will lead to all gear/items/levels/champion points/achievements/sky shards/lore books/alliance points to eventually be sold in the crown shop? All of the above?

So far the only controversial issue that the crown shop has introduced is exp boosters and there are plenty of threads to talk about that if you want. Some people are upset about them, some aren't.

Zenimax said they would not offer p2w items in the crown shop and I'm inclined to take their word for it, until they give me a reason not to. A real reason, not paranoid speculations. If they do introduce things that I don't approve of, and it bothers me enough, I'll just quit. Until that time, I'll continue to support them.

Used this in another thread but it applies here..

Ley wrote: »

Think maybe you're over reacting a little bit?
Reminds me of my 5th grade teacher (back in the 90's) who saw me scribbling on the desk and basically told me that scribbling on the desk lead to hard drugs and murder.

I remember when I trusted them as they told me the game would never have a cash shop and would always be subscription based.

They never said there wouldn't be a cash shop. In fact, it was there from the beginning with mounts.

There never was a cash shop in the game. I think you are thinking of a different game. I also just posted the head of friggin zos saying the very things you claim they never said. If you mean being able to buy that horse or buy the game via digial means well of course you can buy th game digitally.

Ley · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

Are we playing the same game?
Imperial or the Palomino Horse were same as the standard horse.

No, they weren't. They had the base stats of the basic horse available for 11,200 gold in-game. There was no way at all to buy the good mounts, which carried a large stat advantage, other than earning gold in-game and doing so for 42,700 gold each. The basic horse could only ever reach a maximum speed of 65%, while the good horse could be trained up to 75%, for example. At least have your facts straight, please, even if you disagree.

"Imperial or the Palomino Horse were same as the standard horse."
In what world is that a false statement?
Are the 42k horses now the standard horses?

Regardless, you seem to be missing the point. They offered convenience/cosmetic items, for additional money, since launch.

ItsGlaive · April 2015

Are they serious?! Motifs and motif rarity are a cornerstone of the bloody economy! What the hell are ZOS thinking?!

ZOS if you're that desperate for money, put some bloody content in the store instead of fabricating a content drought to save all your best stuff for consoles! This is just chipping away at the base game!

Mission · April 2015

Sigtric wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

omgggg p2w confirmed

Since when is an armor skin considered win?

It is a win to some people..cause "Look i'm awesome. I "beat" you in a coolness looking factor."

Beat = Win!

Just cause some people think cosmetic or convenience aren't pay to win..doesn't mean other people don't. Depends on you playstyle and what you consider winning...

RazzPitazz · April 2015

The only true concern I have is for the overall in game economy. I'm not saying this will destroy it by any means, however this does begin to add rl value to I'm game cUrrency. If I pay x dollars to get y crowns for motif, how much in game gold = x dollars?

GaldorP · April 2015

I wish they would have added other, new motifs to the crown store and not the existing ones that are part of the game's economy. The influence of the crown store motifs on the ingame market prices might be a small one but there is an influence and that's bad already.

It introduces a "you either earn something in the game or you can pay real money to get it instead" concept that I really don't like. To me, that is not merely "convenience" anymore. It's "pay or play".

UrQuan · April 2015

Honestly, at these prices I don't see a big problem. It might have a bit of an effect on the motif economy, but I doubt it will be a major effect. Given how easy it is to make gold in ESO, and given how few gold sinks there are in the game, I rather suspect that the vast majority of players looking for motifs will keep on buying them with gold rather than spend real money on them anyway. Now if they dropped crown prices so that a pack of motifs cost what a single motif costs, then I could see a lot more people just spending the small amount of real money rather than spending gold, but at the prices listed I suspect it will be a small minority who will be willing to pay crowns.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · April 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

omgggg p2w confirmed

Take your hyperbole somewhere else please.

Dennizon · April 2015

m.stollb16_ESO wrote: »

I wish they would have added other, new motifs to the crown store and not the existing ones that are part of the game's economy. The influence of the crown store motifs on the ingame market prices might be a small one but there is an influence and that's bad already.

It introduces a "you either earn something in the game or you can pay real money to get it instead" concept that I really don't like. To me, that is not merely "convenience" anymore. It's "pay or play".

This is a very good point. Leave some things as achievements to be found only from playing the game, and have separate ones for sale. When you combine the two it erodes the entire game experience for many players.

Garkin · April 2015

Snowstrider wrote: »

can you buy the new stuff on NA server? no new stuff on eu yet

All purchased items in crown store are server wide, so if you buy Senche-Leopard on NA server, it will be available just on NA server. You won't have it on EU server.

wraith808 · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

You are only focusing on the rare motifs. The bread and butter of the Motif trade has just been nerfed into the ground. One months subscription means a player can buy all the Blue Motifs from the Crown Store.

Hmm lets think, pay $2 for a motif that costs 200-500 gold in game or spend 10 minutes completing a quest to get 200-500 gold in game. I think I know what I'd do.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

How many people shelled out in other pay to win setups as the games sunk so they could "pwn noobs"? Many. Why would that be different here? I knew people in my brief time in Archeage who had dumped hundreds of bucks, a couple even thousands, o they could have the ultimate gear and butcher people for fun until everyone quit after they finally had the concept of pay to win's effect dawn on them. You know that adage... "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."

Oh yea because motifs are clearly going to appeal to that p2w crowd. Daedric gear is know to give you the ability to "pwn all noobs."

I'm not saying no one will buy them but to assume that so many people will fork out big bucks for them, resulting in the ruin of the motif economy, is a bit over presumptuous.

Same pattern as every other game that went b2p or f2p. The last sentence of the post you quoted me in says it all .

So you're saying what? Motifs will eventually lead to a P2W model? Motifs will lead to the downfall of the economy? Motifs will lead to all gear/items/levels/champion points/achievements/sky shards/lore books/alliance points to eventually be sold in the crown shop? All of the above?

So far the only controversial issue that the crown shop has introduced is exp boosters and there are plenty of threads to talk about that if you want. Some people are upset about them, some aren't.

Zenimax said they would not offer p2w items in the crown shop and I'm inclined to take their word for it, until they give me a reason not to. A real reason, not paranoid speculations. If they do introduce things that I don't approve of, and it bothers me enough, I'll just quit. Until that time, I'll continue to support them.

Used this in another thread but it applies here..

Ley wrote: »

Think maybe you're over reacting a little bit?
Reminds me of my 5th grade teacher (back in the 90's) who saw me scribbling on the desk and basically told me that scribbling on the desk lead to hard drugs and murder.

I remember when I trusted them as they told me the game would never have a cash shop and would always be subscription based.

They never said there wouldn't be a cash shop. In fact, it was there from the beginning with mounts.

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

It's not completely false. If you look back through the threads at all, you'll see people complaining about the $14.99 mount that was there at the beginning, and saying that it heralded the fact that this game was made from the ground up to be b2p.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mounts

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:PC/Mac_Store

I'm actually surprised that you didn't know that, and would post such a... derogatory post based in lack of fact, as I've found your posts well researched in general.

It's called the Palamino horse, and up until the crown store was released, it was available for sale in the store on the ESO site.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

There never was a cash shop in the game. I think you are thinking of a different game. I also just posted the head of friggin zos saying the very things you claim they never said. If you mean being able to buy that horse or buy the game via digial means well of course you can buy th game digitally.

I never said in game. I just said cash shop. In game has a connotation for marketing and convenience, sure. But a cash shop is a cash shop.

Srithla · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

You are only focusing on the rare motifs. The bread and butter of the Motif trade has just been nerfed into the ground. One months subscription means a player can buy all the Blue Motifs from the Crown Store.

Hmm lets think, pay $2 for a motif that costs 200-500 gold in game or spend 10 minutes completing a quest to get 200-500 gold in game. I think I know what I'd do.

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

How many people shelled out in other pay to win setups as the games sunk so they could "pwn noobs"? Many. Why would that be different here? I knew people in my brief time in Archeage who had dumped hundreds of bucks, a couple even thousands, o they could have the ultimate gear and butcher people for fun until everyone quit after they finally had the concept of pay to win's effect dawn on them. You know that adage... "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."

Oh yea because motifs are clearly going to appeal to that p2w crowd. Daedric gear is know to give you the ability to "pwn all noobs."

I'm not saying no one will buy them but to assume that so many people will fork out big bucks for them, resulting in the ruin of the motif economy, is a bit over presumptuous.

Same pattern as every other game that went b2p or f2p. The last sentence of the post you quoted me in says it all .

So you're saying what? Motifs will eventually lead to a P2W model? Motifs will lead to the downfall of the economy? Motifs will lead to all gear/items/levels/champion points/achievements/sky shards/lore books/alliance points to eventually be sold in the crown shop? All of the above?

So far the only controversial issue that the crown shop has introduced is exp boosters and there are plenty of threads to talk about that if you want. Some people are upset about them, some aren't.

Zenimax said they would not offer p2w items in the crown shop and I'm inclined to take their word for it, until they give me a reason not to. A real reason, not paranoid speculations. If they do introduce things that I don't approve of, and it bothers me enough, I'll just quit. Until that time, I'll continue to support them.

Used this in another thread but it applies here..

Ley wrote: »

Think maybe you're over reacting a little bit?
Reminds me of my 5th grade teacher (back in the 90's) who saw me scribbling on the desk and basically told me that scribbling on the desk lead to hard drugs and murder.

I remember when I trusted them as they told me the game would never have a cash shop and would always be subscription based.

They never said there wouldn't be a cash shop. In fact, it was there from the beginning with mounts.

Your post is completely false. There were no mounts in ESO at launch onwards until a couple of months ago finally when the 1.6 patch went live along with the brand new cash store/crown shop, other than those bought with gold in-game (the Imperial Horse which was completely cosmetic as part of the Collector's Edition (imperial edition) and had far worse stats than the other ones in the game was the sole exception).

Just to correct this, the Imperial horse cost 1 g. It was equivalent to the 17k gold horse (17,200?). It was the 42k horses that had better stats. The only difference between the Imperial horse and the 17k horse was color (white vs. brown & white).

joshisanonymous · April 2015

I guess it's alright that basic motifs are available since their value in gold has been basically nothing for some time now, but I still don't like the idea of having motifs in the crown store, particularly rare motifs. I have very little doubt that this will hurt the price of the latter in game, which is lame.

When they offered food and potions, they purposely made them weaker than what you could craft. With motifs, there's no option for that, but that doesn't mean they're not an important part of the economy. I can only hope that if they start doing the same thing for dropped armor sets and such that they at least make them reduced stat versions.

milkbox · April 2015

ha!

I just got home from work (which is far away from a computer) to read the news.

My first thought: "Oh, dang. There goes my retirement fund from the motifs I've been sitting on in my bank."

My second thought: "A cocktail and a nap sounds like a good idea."

Oh hey. That does sound like a good idea.

pecheckler · April 2015

This is the end of the ESO economy. Every major gold sink has now been made available for real money. ESO has officially reached pay-to-remove-inconvenience status. And if you look at it the way many players do, all that cost savings will be translated to potentially hundreds of thousands of gold saved, which can be used to buy superior equipment. That's pay to win folks.

And I just want to go on to say something to Zenimax. My goal for this week is now to follow up with every person I had previously mentioned good things to about ESO and convince them not to buy the game, most of which were leaning toward consoles.

This change is a nail in the coffin for a game that had shown significant recovery since dropping the subscription.

Yet another good product ruined by a company that cares more about profits then the quality of their product.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · April 2015

This will definitely affect in game gold prices.....

Edit: I gather no one will pay 100k for an imperial motif anymore...it will more than likely make more sense to just buy it with crowns. So that motif will probably drop in price at least.[/quote]

I agree. In-game economy will definitely suffer, imo. They say they are priced high enough, 5,000 crowns which equals $39.95 in cash, but gone besides value is the feeling of FINDING it, that accomplishment. Even if you bought one in guild store, how long did you save your gold for that motif?
I am just worried that if rare, supposedly "special" items are now fair game, what will be next? Morog Tong daggers for 7500 crowns? I know the Crown Store is just cosmetic now, but how close will it get to walking the line of P2W and just lazy and want to buy your way to top.. Just my opinion and I love ESO very much! That is why I'm concerned over this..