Bah...I'm Giving Up !

angelbless05 · June 2014

circilion wrote: »

Is this a new thing now? I see this "Complaining about complainers complaining complaining complainer" garbage all the time recently. And every poster types it out like its original clever and hilarious.

Not disagreeing with the content of your post, agree with it for the most part. but you just had to go and finish it with that damn recently idiot cliche.

This is maybe my thrird of fourth post in this forum (and maybe second day actually reading the forums. They can be a scary place for me, so I avoid at times

), but didn't know that general phrasing went around, thanks for crushing my dreams of being clever

;_; and here I thought I would start actually posting regularly

*goes back into forum oblivion*

/sarcasm

circilion · June 2014

angelbless05 wrote: »

circilion wrote: »

Is this a new thing now? I see this "Complaining about complainers complaining complaining complainer" garbage all the time recently. And every poster types it out like its original clever and hilarious.

Not disagreeing with the content of your post, agree with it for the most part. but you just had to go and finish it with that damn recently idiot cliche.

This is maybe my thrird of fourth post in this forum (and maybe second day actually reading the forums. They can be a scary place for me, so I avoid at times ), but didn't know that general phrasing went around, thanks for crushing my dreams of being clever ;_; and here I thought I would start actually posting regularly

*goes back into forum oblivion*

/sarcasm

Don't mind me, I'm a ***. haha

If anyone actually remembers any of my other postings I'm sure they can corroborate.

Ragnar_Lodbrok · June 2014

People are quitting over VR and its difficulty. Keep defending this all the way to f2p folks

DanteVFenris · June 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

People are quitting over VR and its difficulty. Keep defending this all the way to f2p folks

Then I've heard other people say it was too easy... You have skilled and unskilled players. It's hard to balance both. Just play dcuo. I'm overgeared and still get one shotted in raids because the people that wanted it harder where vocal. This game so far is way way easier then end game dcuo

Edit: and no one wants free to play, less updates, less content with an online store that makes you want to spend more then 15$ a month. I've spent 100 dollars a month on dcuo before while I was also subbed to it

circilion · June 2014

I don't know, you would have to have an incredible latency to consider Vet Easy..

I have to roll the millisecond I see red, because I can be well outside it on my screen and still get annihilated by the special ability. I'm not sure I've seen a single post saying Vet content was too easy, and if anyone ever did post that I'd be tempted to call them on their elitist ***.

At the best Vet is crazy challenging and rewarding. Honestly I kinda like it, I fear the grind and I will never make Vet12 because I don't live on this game, but I like that you have to be on the ball during all the fights.

that being said, ESO will probably end up with an elite group of players in a year if they don't change it. and everyone else will be playing somewhere else. Doubt that's a commercially successful model.

angelbless05 · June 2014

circilion wrote: »

angelbless05 wrote: »

circilion wrote: »

Is this a new thing now? I see this "Complaining about complainers complaining complaining complainer" garbage all the time recently. And every poster types it out like its original clever and hilarious.

Not disagreeing with the content of your post, agree with it for the most part. but you just had to go and finish it with that damn recently idiot cliche.

This is maybe my thrird of fourth post in this forum (and maybe second day actually reading the forums. They can be a scary place for me, so I avoid at times ), but didn't know that general phrasing went around, thanks for crushing my dreams of being clever ;_; and here I thought I would start actually posting regularly

*goes back into forum oblivion*

/sarcasm

Don't mind me, I'm a ***. haha

If anyone actually remembers any of my other postings I'm sure they can corroborate.

No worries, mate! Although I am seeing a alot of this phrase now that i'm reading through the threads.

As for VR content, I've not yet reached it, but my husband did and boy, the rage he inflicted on his mouse all the way to V12 was hilarious(ly sad). Hopefully they make the ranks more meaningful, but there's absolutely no way that what currently on the game for vet ranks is truly end game, as they are still making new content. Assuming they're like most devs that push content out every couple of months, it'd be foolish to keep it as what it currently is and they'll more likely change up what they release. This is another thing people (sort of) jump the gun on. It's only been three months, the current content of the vet ranks is not gonna be the only thing in the world. Every other game that has end game material runs into people acting as if nothing will change/no new content will come out for the rest of the game's life span. It'll take a few more vet content patches (read: months, maybe even a year) before anyone can definitively pinpoint what ZoS' idea of end content is like. But they better figure out more creative ways to keep leveling interesting. I've played games that took a month to gain five levels, so I can go mindless zombie if need be, but would rather not, especially if the end game isn't worth it

circilion · June 2014

Yea, if they don't change the Vet Difficulty I think I'll have about 1main and 7alts all maxed around V3 next year all in legendary armour stockpiling regents lmao.

countesscrownub18_ESO · June 2014

Agreed. I'm in the same mode right now. I check for improvements to VR area's. I anxiously read the patch notes. I do not see a light.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2014

DanteVFenris wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

People are quitting over VR and its difficulty. Keep defending this all the way to f2p folks

Then I've heard other people say it was too easy... You have skilled and unskilled players. It's hard to balance both. Just play dcuo. I'm overgeared and still get one shotted in raids because the people that wanted it harder where vocal. This game so far is way way easier then end game dcuo

Edit: and no one wants free to play, less updates, less content with an online store that makes you want to spend more then 15$ a month. I've spent 100 dollars a month on dcuo before while I was also subbed to it

DCUO has endgame now? Hm... was a fun game... might take a look.

Sinsual · June 2014

I just canceled my sub and noticed there was no feedback option. I find this very odd as I would think they would want to know why someone is leaving. I currently manage a portfolio as an account manager for a company and sometimes I loose accounts. You can bet on the fact that I am going to find out why. I know they cant review every piece of feedback but man I would expect them to at least collect the data. To be honest I was hoping to highlight some items that would make me come back so I guess I should post them here:

VR content, pretty much what everyone is saying.
Seems like a last minute mad dash to acknowledge the lack of end game content.
Endless grind, ridiculous enemy stats
Pointless - “oh you just spent hours gaining a new lever...Here's like two points in damage increase and the mobs now eat your soul. Have Fun!”
Have to admit I never ran a trial but I watched a video of one because I was suspicious and as it turns out my concerns were correct. They look boring and pointless. Boss walks into a room and you kill it....See if you can get the best time! The people in the video weren't even looking at their gear that dropped which tells me it's more pointless gear that you just DE.
Ruins the prospect of any alts beyond crafting bots and bank toons....oh wait that’s right they share bank slots...

Tanking is boring...I mean like really boring
Basic tanking experience = Block, block,taunt,block,buff,block,block,block,taunt,

Guild System or lack there of
Trade guilds are probably the worst idea I've ever heard of. It seems like a sure fire way to destroy and in-game economy or in this case prevent one from developing
I sold most items in general as my trade guilds kept fluctuating in membership
The trade guild system really hurts the casual guild appeal. Every time I advertised my guild people would whisper and ask how many members? I'd replay with what is your main concern with members? We're actually trying to recruit a few at a time so we can see if people are a good fit. They would then reply “sorry really just looking to get into trade guilds to sell.”
Where are guild perks? Given I pretty much gave up on a guild being anything more than a trade hub so I may have missed them.

Worst Dungeon system I've ever played
No point to run dungeons at VR level as they don't drop special loot
You can get the story from regular runs and to be honest I skipped most of those because tanking was boring and no good loot. I can play the main game for story and not be bored.

PVP is fun when I can find a group that is in a big fight
Must have forward camp, I spend way to much time running back when I die (trolls come and get it.)
Most of my pvp time is spent looking for the group mentioned above. Seriously, I spent a lot of time looking for people to fight.
Gold rewards for campaign participation? Maybe I didn't play enough in the campaign but this just seems really lazy. To be honest I would have played more but I got tired of not being able to find the action.
No smaller conflicts, Cyrodiil is your only option.
PVP armor after we were told there wouldn’t be any.
No duels?

Classes must use destruction staff and light armor
- I really wanted to be a dual wield DK but I just cant figure out how its supposed to work.
- It cost way to much to respec, this does not encourage experimentation to me, it encourages forum reading. The get it right the first time or die approach really was off putting for me

There is more that bothers me about this game but I thought I'd offer a few things that in my opinion would help:

Offer high end mats to drop off VR content dungeon bosses. Not loot that has a chance to yield such mats as we can get those grinding in crag.
If the mega server approach prevents a server wide AH then offer regional AH's. Would be interesting to see people moving goods from zone to zone due to better markets. This would allow for full market access and encourage competitive pricing. Some people complain about AH PVP, not sure why especially if you live in America.
Make VR content optional and provide special rewards like the ability to choose which faction to fight for after completion. Whats the point of seeing other peoples views if you have no ability to act on them.
Give us more power! I shouldn't feel like the game is out to get me past level 50. Make it challenging but make the player a force to be reckoned with as well.
Guild Halls! Maybe offer farms and resources that you can maintain and profit from. Guild Halls could also be siege d and maybe players could form alliances that offer boons to friendly players when they come to aid.
Toggle Sprint, seriously ouch.

Again, I have more but I'm sure there are people just waiting put their flame throwers to use. When I found that I was having more fun reading the games forums than paying I started to feel like a troll. Even though this is my first post I felt I was reading forums for the wrong reason and needed to go back a game I enjoyed. So I hope this game continues to be fun for those who enjoy it. As for me I've got some Jedi gear to dust off.

Blackwidow · June 2014

DanteVFenris wrote: »

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I do, I'm taking about the person who made the post. The points are valid, I want this game to keep making progress, but it doesn't need whiners to do so. You shouldn't excuse their behaviour, some people above did have valid points without whining. I was mainly taking about the creator of the post

You do know you are being a huge hypocrite, right?

"Whine whine whine"

"Whine whine, cry, cry."

"I need to whine so people can see I'm making a difference."

"Feels good to be a whiner"

Those are all you, buddy.

To quote you, "You shouldn't excuse their behaviour, some people above did have valid points without whining."

Making personal attacks and then complaining about how some people post makes you lose all credibility.

One more quote of yours, "It's been proven that positive reinforcement is far more encouraging"

Have a nice day.

Arora · June 2014

cry cry cry, get a guild and get a core set of people to play with it solves the issues with empty zones

Blackwidow · June 2014

Arora wrote: »

cry cry cry,

Ironic.

get a guild and get a core set of people to play with it solves the issues with empty zones

You could give that advice without being rude.

Too bad most of the guilds are dead from everyone quitting.

Akhratos · June 2014

Arora wrote: »

cry cry cry, get a guild and get a core set of people to play with it solves the issues with empty zones

The issues with your flawed logic are harder to resolve Im afraid, unless by "core set of people" you meant that I must pay the monthly fee to 60 of my friends so we can populate Craglorn again.

And even then, I would need to pay some facebook peeps as well to populate the rest of the areas.

You can play with friends, of course. That does not populate the areas, that only let you do the content, wich is something at least, but it does not bring healthy economy, good pugs, player interaction between unknown people, new competitive guilds... it would just let you do the group dungeons and trials with your friends.

Leovolao · July 2014

DanteVFenris wrote: »

circilion wrote: »

DanteVFenris wrote: »

Whine whine whine, I feel so privledge(Rant Snip) ng, the game is broken. When they nerd somethin(Snippy Snip Snip)opers should be making the game around me. I can't possible imagine why they would consid(Snip Snip Snip Snip)nce.

Feels good to be a wh(Snip)

Wazah! Agree!! All these people frustrated with by and large legitimate issues!!! <Takes another pull from bong> Don't they know that if they get blitzed like us that it won't even matter what game their playing or what kinda shape its in they'll always have a good time!!

Me and you brother gotta stick together!! You keep posting on this thread I'm gonna go to a few others to let all them peoples know that their issues are not important either!!

I was trying to be funny. And really get real, are everyone's complaints legitimate issues? What about conflicting issues? I see people who want one thing, then others that want the opposite. What's the fix for that? I wish people could comprehend English, your putting a load of *** into my mouth that I didn't say. Heck I didn't even imply half of that. I was just trying to replicate the behaviour of the whiners, which yes some do sound like that.

Is this game fun? Yes. Can it have improvments? Yes. Is this game as broken as the community thinks it is? No. The game could have a bunch of fixes and constant improvments but that doesn't happen over night now does it? Trust me I believe a lot of the whiners make good points, but it's dramatizes as hell. Don't give me bs saying it isn't. A bunch of boys having fun being drama queens. I want this game to change for the better I never said otherwise. Again was just trying to replicate a percentage of the player base.

well... they broke pvp (and many other things) over night, so is it really too much to expect they fixed it in a couple of days?

MercyKilling · July 2014

Blackwidow wrote: »

People have the right to post problems with the game, like it or not.

Actually, there's already an avenue for bug reporting and leaving feedback that gets noticed.

Every day when I log in, I take ten minutes to copy/paste from a word document into the game's /feedback system and /bug system.

EVERY DAY I LOG IN.

Guess what? I've seen some of them corrected/acted upon.....and I didn't even waste a moment's time trying to fume on the forums about them.

This is the point I'm trying to get across that you(and those like you) seem not to want to get. Using the forums isn't going to do you any good when there's a much better(and more noticable) way to get the point across.

All you're really doing here on the forums by posting complaints is arguing semantics or trolling or whining. That's it. You -really- care about the game and want to see these "issues" addressed? Make /bug and /feedback reports. Constantly.

And have a little patience. If it's not happening fast enough for you? Too bad. I suggest you apply to Zenimax studios and get to work on those "issues" right away if it's not up to your expectations.

This isn't me white knighting the game....because it's still got faults and problems that are completely valid reasons for people to not pay the sub....however...if you're one of those people and you're no longer supporting the game financially...in -my opinion-....you've forfeited the right to come here and complain about it.

Believe me when I say...the very moment something changes that makes the game unplayable to me...I'll send a /feedback and then request a stop payment and quit playing....and I won't come here to whine about what's wrong...because complaining to the forumites isn't going to get results. Complaining to management does, if it's done right.

GreySix · July 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

People have the right to post problems with the game, like it or not.

Actually, there's already an avenue for bug reporting and leaving feedback that gets noticed.

Regarding the grouping piece, I've been doing as you suggested since beta.

Sadly, grouping is still not fixed, and forced-solo instances still serve as a roadblock to most of the game's content.

If they're listening to the feedback, they've provided no evidence of it. Heck, even a "We're not fixing what you want, so go pound sand!" would be preferable to the deafening silence.

circilion · July 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

People have the right to post problems with the game, like it or not.

Actually, there's already an avenue for bug reporting and leaving feedback that gets noticed.

Every day when I log in, I take ten minutes to copy/paste from a word document into the game's /feedback system and /bug system.

EVERY DAY I LOG IN.

Guess what? I've seen some of them corrected/acted upon.....and I didn't even waste a moment's time trying to fume on the forums about them.

This is the point I'm trying to get across that you(and those like you) seem not to want to get. Using the forums isn't going to do you any good when there's a much better(and more noticable) way to get the point across.

All you're really doing here on the forums by posting complaints is arguing semantics or trolling or whining. That's it. You -really- care about the game and want to see these "issues" addressed? Make /bug and /feedback reports. Constantly.

And have a little patience. If it's not happening fast enough for you? Too bad. I suggest you apply to Zenimax studios and get to work on those "issues" right away if it's not up to your expectations.

This isn't me white knighting the game....because it's still got faults and problems that are completely valid reasons for people to not pay the sub....however...if you're one of those people and you're no longer supporting the game financially...in -my opinion-....you've forfeited the right to come here and complain about it.

Believe me when I say...the very moment something changes that makes the game unplayable to me...I'll send a /feedback and then request a stop payment and quit playing....and I won't come here to whine about what's wrong...because complaining to the forumites isn't going to get results. Complaining to management does, if it's done right.

Mayhaps, but damn it feels good to find out your not alone! Misery does love company

. another post that caught my attention was the one guy who said he spends more time on the forums than playing the game...

...

OMG me too! I literally come home from work, check the forums. see if there is a cheeky comment I can post. Laugh at the rage cases and cry with the complainers..

then I log into the game, feed my horse, research, log out.

Tonight I am not even going to do that haha. Too tired.

Celuwen · July 2014

Edit: I've decided to stick around for another month.

Alt-a-holic time. I'll level up to 50 in each zone and enjoy the stories and quests and see how the game plays then. Hopefully the issues with PvP and VR will be magically solved by then, if not... ah well.

Phantax · July 2014

circilion wrote: »

OMG me too! I literally come home from work, check the forums. see if there is a cheeky comment I can post. Laugh at the rage cases and cry with the complainers..

then I log into the game, feed my horse, research, log out.

Tonight I am not even going to do that haha. Too tired.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Too bad most of the guilds are dead from everyone quitting.

Sinsual wrote: »

I just canceled my sub and noticed there was no feedback option. I find this very odd as I would think they would want to know why someone is leaving....

subecsanur wrote: »

Lol exactly my thoughts!! The fact that they call this Monday server down as "Maintenance" did not boost my confidence in any potential fixes.

Arundo wrote: »

I played for 1 hour this weekend, normally with a new MMO I spend atleast half of the weekend on it. But now I just dont give a f***.

Blade_07 wrote: »

They pushed this game out like a HUGE nasty smelling fart and expect use to pay them a monthly fee for this crap. I admit there are many things about this game that I love & believe the game has good potential but they NEED to do a much better job at addressing serious issues. The constant nerf this & nerf that & add new bugs with their patches dose not install a sense of hope & or confidence for me and many others!

hk11 wrote: »

It's because they do like the game, and want it to stop sucking.

jimfopao2 wrote: »

I quit when I discovered that VR11 and VR12 were only achievable by group grinding.

What clown is making the decisions for this game ? If I made this many bad calls at work I would not have a job.

hk11 wrote: »

I'm still sort of enjoying it but mostly just due to rerolling characters. I'm almost burnt and I feel like I'm just sort of spinning my wheels in ESO.

Drazhar14 wrote: »

As for all the bugs, they should have released the game a month later and finished testing it. They might still have had a large number of people subbed right now if they did that.

kewl wrote: »

I'm feeling the same way. Been unable to play for three days because of a bug in Patch 1.2.3. Don't have much confidence they will fix it in the twelve days before my sub expires. I really like this game, but I'm not paying if I can't play.

LIQUID741 wrote: »

I had last week off as well...I just caught myself up on all the shows I had on my DVR while the wife was at work. Had 0 ambition to log on at all.

johnlentinijrub17_ESO wrote: »

Personally hate MMO forums, and count my self as one of the "50 quiet ones who say nothing and quit".
It just saddens me greatly as I have been a long running ES fan for years.
Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that giving Zenimax the contract for the long awaited ESO was franchise suicide. They released a game that should have still been in Alpha.
After doing every single activity in every zone up to VR8 I have decided my time and love for one of the greatest stories of Video game lore has diminished.

Goodbye lads, Hopefully I'll be back when things get better (if they ever do)...

rhoekieb16_ESO wrote: »

I can only say this to ZOS and to you,

You reap what you sow.

ZOS sow a game in early beta stage,riddled with gamebreaking bugs and some huge exploits,some identified but not fixed during testing(i still know of 10 exploits 80% of the playerbase has still no knowledge of,but they will at some point)

You reap, people running away in droves,ammount of negative posts and threads growing by the day on this and all ESO related forums.

And they deserve every last one of them.

ArconSeptim wrote: »

I agreee I'm not playing it since the last patch, and I pay for this "" ....

@Devs @Zeni Are you guys seeing anything here ?
(to be fair to the other team, there are also a number of positive comments on this thread too)
That said, there are hundreds of other threads with people voicing similar concerns, quitting and being generally unhappy with ESO in its current state !

Blackwidow · July 2014

MercyKilling wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

People have the right to post problems with the game, like it or not.

Actually, there's already an avenue for bug reporting and leaving feedback that gets noticed.

Let me stop you right there. I beta tested the game for over a year, so please don't lecture me on the /bug or /feedback of the game.

I'm well aware and have used that feature many times.

All you're really doing here on the forums by posting complaints is arguing semantics or trolling or whining. That's it. You -really- care about the game and want to see these "issues" addressed? Make /bug and /feedback reports. Constantly.

First, you are being rude-"arguing semantics or trolling or whining."

Posting on the forums has gotten more done for my cause than the /feedback.

Posting on the forums does a lot to communicate with the other players and gives a united front on certain topics.

It got us true first person view for peet's sake.

And have a little patience. If it's not happening fast enough for you? Too bad. I suggest you apply to Zenimax studios and get to work on those "issues" right away if it's not up to your expectations.

See, now you are being sarcastic rude.

This isn't me white knighting the game...

Cough *B.S.* cough

if you're one of those people and you're no longer supporting the game financially...in -my opinion-....you've forfeited the right to come here and complain about it.

First, I am still paying for the game.

Second, I really don't care about your opinion on who get's to post here.

Third, post about the game, not the posters. Personal attacks are just rude.

Believe me when I say...the very moment something changes that makes the game unplayable to me...I'll send a /feedback and then request a stop payment and quit playing....and I won't come here to whine about what's wrong...because complaining to the forumites isn't going to get results. Complaining to management does, if it's done right.

No, you just come here and whine about what other people post.

I'm going to say this to you clearly, so you get this into your head. People posting on the forums does make things change in the game.

You are not the moderator of these threads. Go tell someone who cares about what you think, because it's not me. You are a rude person.

Have a nice day.

poodlemasterb16_ESO · July 2014

I wonder why and how I'm having so much fun with my little army? It's probably because I am in no hurry. One of 8 characters:

Chillin' wit the cats at Senche Station in Malabal Tor.

I come here, this forum especially, for amusement, as the howls of rage are very funny.

I do have nice machinery and know quite a bit about computers, so I really only have that to explain my generally good performance, I guess.

It is an online game you understand, networks are involved. Complicated things with sometimes quite braindead ideas about what to do with your packets.