Console delayed for 6 months? Check this article. Is it true?!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2014

Lovely wrote: »

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ya of course you doom and gloom people wont let pesky thing like facts, logic and reason get in the way of your ranting.

There is nothing about doom and gloom. You came to defend someone's post where that someone was letting people know this should be expected because other games had problems as well. That is reason and logic? People and companies learn from the mistakes of others usually. Moreso, this is the game we care about, not a different one. You can't justify the quality of a product by relating it to the quality of another. Who cares if others are worse?

All MMOs have this. The reason is because its is inevitable. The game is never complete or finished it is a MMO. Just as all humans have heads all MMOs have bugs. If you think somehow ESO would be any different you were deluding yourself. A game this massive with so many people and combinations etc there is no way to make it perfectly bug free. Maybe this is your first MMO but if you come back say a year from now it will be more polished.

Personally I have yet to see any bugs that stop me from progressing. in fact a lot of the bugs have work arounds or the bug was caused by the player doing something wrong.

Nazon_Katts · May 2014

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

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Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

You ask a few personal questions there.

One, they will not explain the leak, any employees involved, plans for staffing, or policy

Ever since the ability to patch, many games have been launching earlier, so investors can get their ROI faster, and the company can be more funded for fixing things, thus can fix the FASTER! the reason the consle game will need to be more polished is not for the players, but for compliance for xbox and playstation. Microsoft and sony DEMAND a product that meets their expectations. I personally would prefer to play now, that than wait over 8 months, counting the last month and the month until the original console launch. So thats why us PC players Pay now for a less than perfected game. We understand how this works and we want this game to succeed, and I for one gladly will pay to help this game get going. Multiplayer games have by far the hardest bugs to fix and the hardest time implementing them. So thank you Zeni for getting this game to us, and the free 40 days

and remember, with great games, comes great responsibly

I do not think I've asked @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any personal questions. I am sure I did not ask you any personal questions.

I know you probably mean well, but that's just the opposite of doing good and I must admit your post did come along a tad bit patronizing. Which I, personally, am not all too fond of.

The text passage clearly addressed PC players as second class gamers. No matter the reasons, we shouldn't need any other big corporation demanding a polished product for us, this big corporation should have delivered a polished product in the first place. That's a question of respect, which they only seem to pay Sony and MS, if your assumptions are correct. I am not glad with this.

I can see a great game, but that great responsibility part seems rather lacking, to be perfectly honest.

Fairydragon3 · May 2014

Malediktus wrote: »

No surprise, PC players are getting abused as paying beta testers for console release.

Would you rather wait the 8 months then(counting 2 between early access and the original console release date), cuz Ill have like 3 VR12' (Craglorn, hoping is soon) and all my research done by then.

zhevon · May 2014

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

Nice writeup - but ESO is a polished product by loose MMO standards.

However, I could see Microsoft or Sony saying its not good enough. Or even more likely there is a issue with testing/development one of the consoles and it getting pushed back for that reason. Or some other weird technical reason.

FezzikVizzini · May 2014

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

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Lovely wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Ya of course you doom and gloom people wont let pesky thing like facts, logic and reason get in the way of your ranting.

There is nothing about doom and gloom. You came to defend someone's post where that someone was letting people know this should be expected because other games had problems as well. That is reason and logic? People and companies learn from the mistakes of others usually. Moreso, this is the game we care about, not a different one. You can't justify the quality of a product by relating it to the quality of another. Who cares if others are worse?

All MMOs have this. The reason is because its is inevitable. The game is never complete or finished it is a MMO. Just as all humans have heads all MMOs have bugs. If you think somehow ESO would be any different you were deluding yourself. A game this massive with so many people and combinations etc there is no way to make it perfectly bug free. Maybe this is your first MMO but if you come back say a year from now it will be more polished.

Personally I have yet to see any bugs that stop me from progressing. in fact a lot of the bugs have work arounds or the bug was caused by the player doing something wrong.

Just LOL

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2014

zhevon wrote: »

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Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

Nice writeup - but ESO is a polished product by loose MMO standards.

However, I could see Microsoft or Sony saying its not good enough. Or even more likely there is a issue with testing/development one of the consoles and it getting pushed back for that reason. Or some other weird technical reason.

Come on do you really think MS or Sony would reject it? Give me a break. Look at the crap out for the PS4 right now. Xbox ONE same thing.

MorHawk · May 2014

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think its hilarious first off people believe this without any official word from ZOS.

And I would have agreed with you, before the Imperial Edition got leaked. I ripped that thing a new one. Then after about a day of dithering, ZOS comes out and confirms it.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2014

MorHawk wrote: »

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think its hilarious first off people believe this without any official word from ZOS.

And I would have agreed with you, before the Imperial Edition got leaked. I ripped that thing a new one. Then after about a day of dithering, ZOS comes out and confirms it.

Well until they come out and confirm it I will assume its fake or some kind of mistaken post.

Phantax · May 2014

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nhisso wrote: »

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/the_elder_scrolls_online/news/elder_scrolls_online_suffers_6_month_delay_on_ps4_and_xbox_one.html

Zeni, is this true?

Honestly you should be happy. The game is in no state to be released on consoles atm.

If this is true, then I'd have to say I agree with @laced There are so many issues with ESO at this time that they need to focus on. Its a shame for the console guys, but imagine what a nightmare it would be for the Devs having a game on three formats with these issues. Least when you guys get your console version, we'd have already discovered all the bugs for you

Belrim · May 2014

Only PC-noobs play on PC. I own all mainstream consoles, and some non-mainsteream, since 8-bit nintendo. Yes, im a freak. And i love it.

ebunts14_ESO · May 2014

People should go back to UO when it first launched. Then most will stop complaining about the issues with ESO. Also people need to stop comparing ESO, which just launched, to other mmo's that been released a year or more.

Dominulf · May 2014

April fools!
I mean... we got hacked...?
An ex-employ-

Oh, who are we kidding here. You know very well as much as we do what state the game is in. We can't release it on a console like this.

4-4-14 ESO

MY COOL DATE PRE ORDER NOW

Fairydragon3 · May 2014

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

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zhevon wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

Nice writeup - but ESO is a polished product by loose MMO standards.

However, I could see Microsoft or Sony saying its not good enough. Or even more likely there is a issue with testing/development one of the consoles and it getting pushed back for that reason. Or some other weird technical reason.

Come on do you really think MS or Sony would reject it? Give me a break. Look at the crap out for the PS4 right now. Xbox ONE same thing.

Yes for one, I'm sure they are feeling uneasy about the reactions by all the pissed off noobs. so guess who is Liable if the console meet the same reaction,

Dominulf · May 2014

ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »

People should go back to UO when it first launched. Then most will stop complaining about the issues with ESO. Also people need to stop comparing ESO, which just launched, to other mmo's that been released a year or more.

Yeah, let's use a game that my great grandfather played as a benchmark for what's acceptable these days.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · May 2014

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

zhevon wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

Nice writeup - but ESO is a polished product by loose MMO standards.

However, I could see Microsoft or Sony saying its not good enough. Or even more likely there is a issue with testing/development one of the consoles and it getting pushed back for that reason. Or some other weird technical reason.

Come on do you really think MS or Sony would reject it? Give me a break. Look at the crap out for the PS4 right now. Xbox ONE same thing.

Yes for one, I'm sure they are feeling uneasy about the reactions by all the pissed off noobs. so guess who is Liable if the console meet the same reaction,

You are crazy. Seriously. There is no way in hell MS or Sony would deny this game. Like I said have you seen some of the crap they put out for those consoles? A AAA game like ESO is something they drool over. They will be as upset as the players if it is delayed. Of course we have no real proof of any delay other than a possibly fake message.

Fairydragon3 · May 2014

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

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Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

You ask a few personal questions there.

One, they will not explain the leak, any employees involved, plans for staffing, or policy

Ever since the ability to patch, many games have been launching earlier, so investors can get their ROI faster, and the company can be more funded for fixing things, thus can fix the FASTER! the reason the consle game will need to be more polished is not for the players, but for compliance for xbox and playstation. Microsoft and sony DEMAND a product that meets their expectations. I personally would prefer to play now, that than wait over 8 months, counting the last month and the month until the original console launch. So thats why us PC players Pay now for a less than perfected game. We understand how this works and we want this game to succeed, and I for one gladly will pay to help this game get going. Multiplayer games have by far the hardest bugs to fix and the hardest time implementing them. So thank you Zeni for getting this game to us, and the free 40 days

and remember, with great games, comes great responsibly

I do not think I've asked @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any personal questions. I am sure I did not ask you any personal questions.

I know you probably mean well, but that's just the opposite of doing good and I must admit your post did come along a tad bit patronizing. Which I, personally, am not all too fond of.

The text passage clearly addressed PC players as second class gamers. No matter the reasons, we shouldn't need any other big corporation demanding a polished product for us, this big corporation should have delivered a polished product in the first place. That's a question of respect, which they only seem to pay Sony and MS, if your assumptions are correct. I am not glad with this.

I can see a great game, but that great responsibility part seems rather lacking, to be perfectly honest.

Honestly meant no offense, but that's information on company secrets and employee's lives. and by far we are not the underclassed one. We have a game, that is playable, * months before the consoles. do you know how much you can do in that time, despite bugs. The fact that we have to pay for a not so polished product 8 months early, is a price I would pay every day to see this game make it. The big corp. is not demanding the polished product for you, they are demanding it for them. Zenimax They at least gave you the opportunity to have 40 days free, but now it's our turn to take care of them, so this game is successful, and more fun for us.

Dominulf · May 2014

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

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Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

You ask a few personal questions there.

One, they will not explain the leak, any employees involved, plans for staffing, or policy

Ever since the ability to patch, many games have been launching earlier, so investors can get their ROI faster, and the company can be more funded for fixing things, thus can fix the FASTER! the reason the consle game will need to be more polished is not for the players, but for compliance for xbox and playstation. Microsoft and sony DEMAND a product that meets their expectations. I personally would prefer to play now, that than wait over 8 months, counting the last month and the month until the original console launch. So thats why us PC players Pay now for a less than perfected game. We understand how this works and we want this game to succeed, and I for one gladly will pay to help this game get going. Multiplayer games have by far the hardest bugs to fix and the hardest time implementing them. So thank you Zeni for getting this game to us, and the free 40 days

and remember, with great games, comes great responsibly

I do not think I've asked @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any personal questions. I am sure I did not ask you any personal questions.

I know you probably mean well, but that's just the opposite of doing good and I must admit your post did come along a tad bit patronizing. Which I, personally, am not all too fond of.

The text passage clearly addressed PC players as second class gamers. No matter the reasons, we shouldn't need any other big corporation demanding a polished product for us, this big corporation should have delivered a polished product in the first place. That's a question of respect, which they only seem to pay Sony and MS, if your assumptions are correct. I am not glad with this.

I can see a great game, but that great responsibility part seems rather lacking, to be perfectly honest.

The fact that we have to pay for a not so polished product 8 months early, is a price I would pay every day to see this game make it. The big corp. is not demanding the polished product for you, they are demanding it for them. Zenimax They at least gave you the opportunity to have 40 days free, but now it's our turn to take care of them, so this game is successful, and more fun for us.

Wow. I have no words for this level of droning. You are the perfect consumer.

psufan5 · May 2014

I wonder if they are thinking about having EVERYONE play on the same mega servers? This might be reason for the delay since it might take them 6 months to get rid of the bots

Nazon_Katts · May 2014

@fairydragon3
I think we can agree on having different standards. If you do not have a problem with this, that's fine for you and I won't question you for it. Me and others are not content with this, so how about not questioning us in turn?

steveb16_ESO46 · May 2014

ebuntsb14_ESO wrote: »

People should go back to UO when it first launched. Then most will stop complaining about the issues with ESO. Also people need to stop comparing ESO, which just launched, to other mmo's that been released a year or more.

I don't care what shoddy business practices and shoddy quality control is hand-waved away as standard in this industry. I'm a fan of this game but they are treating us as paying beta testers and it did release with serious issues identified weeks and months previously.

Malediktus · May 2014

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Malediktus wrote: »

No surprise, PC players are getting abused as paying beta testers for console release.

Would you rather wait the 8 months then(counting 2 between early access and the original console release date), cuz Ill have like 3 VR12' (Craglorn, hoping is soon) and all my research done by then.

Of course I would. I am on the fence of cancelling sub today because my free days run out today and all the bugs which bother me most are not fixed yet (not fixed in 1.1 according to patchnotes, too)
To be honest the game in the current state is an impudence for buy and sub to play. They should remove sub fees until it truly leaves beta stage.

crush83 · May 2014

My speculation on the delay would be that they plan on going F2P in 6 months time. If it's not about going F2P, then it could be that they are trying to work out an agreement with Microsoft or something.

There has been quite a bit of outcry from console gamers about not wishing to pay a subscription fee on top of the Xbox Live fee and the cost of the game.

Fairydragon3 · May 2014

@Dominulf called an informed consumer, and half the people who bought this game where not one of these. I knew exactly where I should get my game so i could be sure to play on time. I kept up with information on the free month and how to subscribe, I look online and forums for bug fixes and work around, and most of all, I don't *** and moan when a quest is confirmed to bugged to progress and bother customer support about a very well known bug. I go find something else to do. although I like this game, I own it, not the other way around

zhevon · May 2014

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

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zhevon wrote: »

Nice writeup - but ESO is a polished product by loose MMO standards.

However, I could see Microsoft or Sony saying its not good enough. Or even more likely there is a issue with testing/development one of the consoles and it getting pushed back for that reason. Or some other weird technical reason.

Come on do you really think MS or Sony would reject it? Give me a break. Look at the crap out for the PS4 right now. Xbox ONE same thing.

Remember there are multiple parts to any software - there is the stuff we see and the stuff that me don't see. Maybe the network code is not efficient enough and it causes issues on their infrastructure, which might explain why there MIGHT be a 6 month delay. Microsoft use to have a serious certification process; I don't think it still exists in its old rigorous form, but there still might some.

Fairydragon3 · May 2014

Malediktus wrote: »

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Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Malediktus wrote: »

No surprise, PC players are getting abused as paying beta testers for console release.

Would you rather wait the 8 months then(counting 2 between early access and the original console release date), cuz Ill have like 3 VR12' (Craglorn, hoping is soon) and all my research done by then.

Of course I would. I am on the fence of cancelling sub today because my free days run out today and all the bugs which bother me most are not fixed yet (not fixed in 1.1 according to patchnotes, too)
To be honest the game in the current state is an impudence for buy and sub to play. They should remove sub fees until it truly leaves beta stage.

To each his own, butthat will never happen. And if it was still in beta, guess what happens to your characters WHEN IT LAUNCHED. BYEBYE

Iharyd · May 2014

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

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Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Dear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom first of all, good morning, I fear it won't stay that way today. But I do have a couple of questions:

"...we'll need about six more months to ensure we deliver the experience our fans expect and deserve"

a) googling this part still brings up the ESO Store FAQ, so was this posted by ZOS, got the site hacked or did a now former employee slam the door on his way out?

If it is legit,

b) if it does take 6 months to offer the intended experience, why do we have to pay for a product that's obviously sub standard by your own measures?

c) are PC gamers not considered fans and / or undeserving of a polished product?

d) can I swap my PC version for a PS4 version as I very much would like to experience the game how expected and deserve

If it's not,

e) do you really believe handling this affair with a no-comments on rumors approach will help the situation?

f) if it was a former employee, is there a round of lay-offs happening?

Thank for your time!

You ask a few personal questions there.

One, they will not explain the leak, any employees involved, plans for staffing, or policy

Ever since the ability to patch, many games have been launching earlier, so investors can get their ROI faster, and the company can be more funded for fixing things, thus can fix the FASTER! the reason the consle game will need to be more polished is not for the players, but for compliance for xbox and playstation. Microsoft and sony DEMAND a product that meets their expectations. I personally would prefer to play now, that than wait over 8 months, counting the last month and the month until the original console launch. So thats why us PC players Pay now for a less than perfected game. We understand how this works and we want this game to succeed, and I for one gladly will pay to help this game get going. Multiplayer games have by far the hardest bugs to fix and the hardest time implementing them. So thank you Zeni for getting this game to us, and the free 40 days

and remember, with great games, comes great responsibly

I do not think I've asked @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any personal questions. I am sure I did not ask you any personal questions.

I know you probably mean well, but that's just the opposite of doing good and I must admit your post did come along a tad bit patronizing. Which I, personally, am not all too fond of.

The text passage clearly addressed PC players as second class gamers. No matter the reasons, we shouldn't need any other big corporation demanding a polished product for us, this big corporation should have delivered a polished product in the first place. That's a question of respect, which they only seem to pay Sony and MS, if your assumptions are correct. I am not glad with this.

I can see a great game, but that great responsibility part seems rather lacking, to be perfectly honest.

Honestly meant no offense, but that's information on company secrets and employee's lives. and by far we are not the underclassed one. We have a game, that is playable, * months before the consoles. do you know how much you can do in that time, despite bugs. The fact that we have to pay for a not so polished product 8 months early, is a price I would pay every day to see this game make it. The big corp. is not demanding the polished product for you, they are demanding it for them. Zenimax They at least gave you the opportunity to have 40 days free, but now it's our turn to take care of them, so this game is successful, and more fun for us.

If by ,,playable'' u mean all what u deserves paying double AA price and sub..then I pity you.Now take a look what we have right now..playable* game with tons of bugs ,half ass mechanics,clunky combat,inbalances,big lags and constant dc's,broken market,eu server 8000km from eu,exploits and heavy bot infestation.. imagine how many players this issues will irritate to point of leaving game permanently,looking at 5 guilds im in ..like 30-40% in this 1st month only...Then think about half of that issues resolved but 8 months later and game shipped then.Selling point of ESO is definetly Cyrodill ie. pvp ,like in warhammer online...u cant have pvp at all if u dont have players ,else it completly sucks,especially in Cyrodill that is a massive area.And we demanding only what they all the times repeating about their ,,top shelf'' services to ensure us about gr8 experiance...shame it ends on empty words only.

Genomic · May 2014

Malediktus wrote: »

I am on the fence of cancelling sub today because my free days run out today and all the bugs which bother me most are not fixed yet (not fixed in 1.1 according to patchnotes, too)
To be honest the game in the current state is an impudence for buy and sub to play. They should remove sub fees until it truly leaves beta stage.

Regarding that, it occurs to me that they possibly pulled the official console delay news because they didn't want a rush of unsubbing before the first free month runs out. Maybe I'm being cynical....

Nazon_Katts · May 2014

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

@Dominulf called an informed consumer, and half the people who bought this game where not one of these. I knew exactly where I should get my game so i could be sure to play on time. I kept up with information on the free month and how to subscribe, I look online and forums for bug fixes and work around, and most of all, I don't *** and moan when a quest is confirmed to bugged to progress and bother customer support about a very well known bug. I go find something else to do. although I like this game, I own it, not the other way around

No matter how informed you may have been at the time buying the game, one thing you couldn't have known is that the console launch would be pushed back half a year. If you don't want to see or just fail to see what this implies, you're putting yourself in the wrong group.

Pizza_Magician · May 2014

That's fine, it will probably coincide with an XBOX ONE price drop. I do agree that the game should be F2P with cash shop, as all games should be.

GossiTheDog · May 2014

Quick update - Bethesda's PR department say a press release is coming about console release later today.