So are you going to subscribe?

doggie
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That scary date may 4th is coming up, how many will subscribe?

If you don't subscribe what's your main concerns?

My main concern are Zenimax's ability to run this game, from economic point of view as the sales are not as excpected and from a professional view, there's so many things wrong with the game that simply can't be explained other than incompetence with mmorpgs.


I'm also missing serous feedback from devs, why don't we hear anything from the Creative Director whoever he is? Are the Guild stores getting fixed(search?), will the dungeon finder be better, will we have more veteran dungeons other than craglorn?

There's so many questions about this game that need an answer.

Edited by doggie on May 1, 2014 11:59AM
  • Xstof
    Xstof
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    I've just changed my subscription plan from 30 days to 90 days. Hopefully it won't go free-to-play with the obligatory cash shop till then, as I'm out when/if it happens. :)
  • Chryos
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    I will yes. So long as I see them doing their best to improve the game I'll most likely be here. If this game goes free to play or pay to win as is the current trend of many MMO's I'll leave and continue my search for a good sub only game. I enjoy this game, but i hate microtransactions, pay to win and free to play. If I am paying for a game, I dont want a bunch of cheapskate freeloaders playing along side of me.
    If I am going to quote someone, it's going to be me.
  • Gohlar
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    Xstof wrote: »
    I've just changed my subscription plan from 30 days to 90 days. Hopefully it won't go free-to-play with the obligatory cash shop till then, as I'm out when/if it happens. :)

    Hope will allow the sub to last for more than 90 days. That would be unprecedented and that game isn't that bad. It is rather dull and generic though. I have little hope for improvement too. The sub won't last a year is my guess, I don't expect this to sell well on consoles with the weak word of mouth coming from PC. They will go buy to play and greatly expand on the shop.

    Nobody I know is subbing. Nobody I know has even logged in this week. Turns out solo questing and shallow theme park world "events" (a step backwards from WAR even) are not enough to interest most people.
    Edited by Gohlar on May 1, 2014 12:18PM
  • knaveofengland
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    its actually cheaper to have subs look at world of tanks 50 dollars for a tank and there is more than 24 premium tanks,
    it has cost me wads with my children so I hope it stays subs I can be a wallet warrior and in some games iam with my children.
    the game will still be here years to come ,
  • Krell
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    Reading "The Road Ahead" on the front page made me quite hopeful for the future. I'm definitely staying a while.

    http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/05/01/the-road-ahead---may-1st?ref=home

    Also, isn't it May 9th now, since they're adding five days of game time to everyone?
  • Zerl
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    Got the quarterly plan setup.

    Despite what alot of people are saying, I'm actually enjoying the game.

    I've been VR1 all week (~80% in), and am in now way feeling frustrated with the lack of progression. I just go through the motions and don't treat it as a grind. I mix it up (leveling, crafting, pvp, shard hunting, etc) when I get the inkling that what I am doing is beginning to feel monotonous.

    I experiment with combos, looking for a way to get the best out of my build and playstyle. Sometimes I won't even login, as I'll spend the little time (in the evenings during the week) I have trawling through the internet looking for build ideas & suggestions.
  • rawne1980b16_ESO
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    Krell wrote: »
    Also, isn't it May 9th now, since they're adding five days of game time to everyone?

    Mine says 2 days left.

    And no, I won't be subscribing.

    Sadly I don't have any issues with the game besides bugs.

    I do, however, have a massive issue with Zenimax.

    There was a screw up, granted on my part, that resulted in me with 2 copies of the game and getting a refund on one of them.

    They claim the refund went through on the 1st of April but i've still seen no sign of my money. My bank knows nothing about it either so it hasn't gone through.

    Technically, they stole £49.99 from me and i'm not giving them any more of my money until I get that back.
  • Azarul
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    Zerl wrote: »
    Despite what alot of people are saying, I'm actually enjoying the game.

    I've been VR1 all week (~80% in), and am in now way feeling frustrated with the lack of progression. I just go through the motions and don't treat it as a grind. I mix it up (leveling, crafting, pvp, shard hunting, etc) when I get the inkling that what I am doing is beginning to feel monotonous.

    I agree, I felt like I needed to rush to 50 for some reason. Now that I am V1 I feel relaxed and am enjoying the slow ride to V10. Subscribed for sure.

  • Audigy
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    doggie wrote: »
    That scary date may 4th is coming up, how many will subscribe?

    If you don't subscribe what's your main concerns?

    I'm also missing serous feedback from devs, why don't we hear anything from the Creative Director whoever he is? Are the Guild stores getting fixed(search?), will the dungeon finder be better, will we have more veteran dungeons other than craglorn?

    There's so many questions about this game that need an answer.

    No offence to you, but do you know how huge Craglorn is? Its a whole zone for groups only! To expect another group only zone around the corner is really silly, the next step will most likely be for solo players like the crime system and something like the dark brotherhood or stuff for pvp.

    Once Craglorn rolls out, they most likely say whats coming in July as they release content patches in a 6-8 weeks rhythm.

    As for me, there is still lots to do for me and unless they screw up like EA did with SWTOR, I don't see why I shouldn't keep my sub.


    I am honestly wondering how much people are playing if they already finished all the content which the game has to offer. :o
  • mutharex
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    Developer feedback
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-dev-discussion

    You are just looking into the wrong part of the forum, this is New Player Help
  • Nicolyne
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    Yeah, there are some issues but I'm enjoying the game, so I'm going to subscribe.
  • knaveofengland
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    I do think this game will have a very large player base, so it be around for years, and of course there be more mounts ,and then there is clothes costumes dyes armour etc etc etc ,
    so game does have a massive future millions of fans
  • demendred
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    Since there is no official .hack mmo, yes.
    All good Nords goto Sto'Vo'Kor.
  • Laerian
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    If I stay subscribed will be because of TES. I do this because it's a way of life, "having fun" is not enough for me.

    •A system that allows grouped players to see each other even when they’re in different phases
    Not interested.

    •A justice system—steal from and kill NPCs and deal with the consequences if you are caught
    Yeah funny except I dont play chaotic or evil characters. Probably something to look forward.

    •Migration of European Megaserver to our European datacenter.
    Good for them.

    •Field of View (FOV) adjustment
    1 month late, now I'm used to play in 3rd PV

    •Armor dyeing and tinting
    I only use trash equipment due to armor degradation and repair costs.

    •Two new Veteran Dungeons: Crypt of Hearts and City of Ash
    Not interested.

    •New region of Craglorn with a new Trial (the Serpent)
    Not interested.

    •Increased ability to pick up items in the world
    Like motifs and recipes? Like ingredients that now don't worth their pixels cuz food sell values were nerfed?.

    •Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood storyline and quests.
    At least something to look forward

    •Dragonstar Arena—similar to Trials, but built for a group of four
    Not interested.

    •Spellcrafting
    •Horse Racing
    •Improvements to fishing
    •Crafting system improvements
    Seeing is believing

    •Improved Looking for Group system
    Not interested.

    •Better NPC facial animations
    Funny but not interested.

    •Guild functionality updates: guild store interface updates, customizable guild insignias, tabards, and guild ranks, and Guild Kiosks—guild stores open to everyone that are available to the highest-bidding guild.
    Open to everyone for buying and selling? Otherwise a confirmation of a broken system: People excluded from the economy, no free market; more beating around the bushes.

    •Auto-leveling dungeons that level to your group leader
    Not interested.

    •Awards when you repeat dungeons
    Not interested.

    •Imperial City PvP dungeon
    Not interested.

    I appreciate the extra five days they are giving away as compensation for all the problems. Point for Zenimax.
  • Shimond
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    Laerian wrote: »
    If I stay subscribed will be because of TES. I do this because it's a way of life, "having fun" is not enough for me.

    Yikes, you might want to see a counselor.

    Far as the OP goes, would be nice if posting was limited to subscribers - then the question would answer itself in a week or so :P
  • Lalai
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    I'm subbing. I enjoy the game and the friends I've made in game, plus those in real life that got the game, are enjoying it and staying as well. I'll play until I stop having fun.
    Fisher extraordinaire!
    Send me your worms, crawlers, guts, and insect parts.
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    Daggerfall Covenant, NA
  • Antonie
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    Subscribed for 180 days. I am veteran 4 now. Saved up money long time ago and most flaws in the game i expected long time ago before pts was available.
    “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”-Albert Einstein
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  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    Gohlar wrote: »
    Xstof wrote: »
    I've just changed my subscription plan from 30 days to 90 days. Hopefully it won't go free-to-play with the obligatory cash shop till then, as I'm out when/if it happens. :)

    Hope will allow the sub to last for more than 90 days. That would be unprecedented and that game isn't that bad. It is rather dull and generic though. I have little hope for improvement too. The sub won't last a year is my guess, I don't expect this to sell well on consoles with the weak word of mouth coming from PC. They will go buy to play and greatly expand on the shop.

    Nobody I know is subbing. Nobody I know has even logged in this week. Turns out solo questing and shallow theme park world "events" (a step backwards from WAR even) are not enough to interest most people.

    I went to get my copy on launch day and i swear i must have seen 200 people come in asking for the console version ... thats just one shop, we have 6 in our town centre and all were rammed with people.
  • Laerian
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    Shimond wrote: »
    Laerian wrote: »
    If I stay subscribed will be because of TES. I do this because it's a way of life, "having fun" is not enough for me.

    Yikes, you might want to see a counselor.
    IRL usually friends come to me for advice not vice versa.
  • Zargorius
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    I'm already subscribed, right now deciding if to cancel or not. The 5 additional days are a welcome gift, hoping the 1.1 patch could hit before those run out. After the initial euphoria passed, the cracks are more than evident but there are parts of the game that I still love...if they fix PvP, I'll probably stay at least for some time.
    Honor is a dead man's code.
  • loops73
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    absolutely not,already unsubbed..this game offers nothing new and is riddled with problems...I may come back when its free to play
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Im having fun, so yes. If i stop having fun, then not so much.
  • Chili
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    Definitely. Looking forward to them improving the game and fixing issues as I explore all the way to end game and then some.

    I am entertained.
  • RianaTheBosmer
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    I'm subbing but month to month because I was arbitrarily banned for a exploit I wasn't a part of. Yes they did apologize but if they can do that to people who have done nothing wrong, they can do it again for another reason. Trust is key for me to give them a 3 or 6 month amount upfront. They no longer have my trust.
    Edited by RianaTheBosmer on May 1, 2014 2:16PM
  • Gwarok
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    Way I see it, if one has ever launched a MMO game in the past (and believe you, me; I've been here done that many, many times..Meridian 59 ring a bell to anyone?) one should know by now that there is no such thing as being "polished" when it is launched. FACT: polished MMO's launch is a myth. That being said if one doesn't give a MMO that they choose to play at least 3 months (not counting the free month if they pre-ordered) to get their little mud crabs all in a row, they're doing it wrong and are acting like a totally obtuse little milk drinking Scrib.
    Shimond wrote: »
    ..would be nice if posting was limited to subscribers - then the question would answer itself in a week or so :P

    Absolutely this, 1,105,286% this.
    Edited by Gwarok on May 1, 2014 2:42PM
    "Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade

    "I am ALWAYS very busy, so I KNOW what's best. You need to stay away from the waterfall. TRUST ME, you're better off keeping busy than playing in the stream....Do you know how to swim, Little Scrib?"

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    Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
    Belonging to a man.
    O, be some other name!
    What's in a name?
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    By any other name would smell as sweet.
    Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
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  • Feidam
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    I Plan on staying for quite awhile. Contrary to all the negativity this games launch hasn't been as too bad. Some others were far far worse.

    Furthermore, even with the problems I have had more fun than I've had in a very long time with a mmo.
  • Thechemicals
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    Yes i will sub and continue to sub until a better game comes along.
    Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
    Vr14 Dk bow/2h

    Brayan Blackthunder
    Goddick
    Daggerfall Covenant

  • KariTR
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    90 day recurring set up at launch and never for a second have Zenimax given me a reason to consider cancelling it.

    One of the pet-hates seems to be the lack of an AH and how it has resulted in a 'bad economy'. I have no clue what someone means when they spout that and I suspect they don't either as I have never seen anyone even attempt to explain it constructively. They just repeat the phrase like a bad mantra they can't let go of.

    Same with the 'bot issue'. In game it is apparent that Zen are working their butts off to clean up shop and as long as they continue to do so I won't hold it against them that greedy and selfish players bring this trash into the community.

    Anyway, I imagine guilds all over Tamriel have been having this discussion over the last few days. The guildies who have spoken up have all been very positive and have confirmed they are resubbing. I hope those that aren't think to drop out of guild before they unsubscribe. I am sure there will be plenty of people to take their place :)
  • Csub
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    3 months recurring is already set! And people saying "we will be back when it goes F2P", don`t forget that the game will also be out on consoles and since they don`t have that many MMOs, and this is a TES game after all no matter what some might say, I think they will sell their quite well and hopefully have enough subscribers across all these platforms to keep the game P2P.

    Also, the future plans are very nice!
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • Selstad
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    I'm not done with the PvE content yet and I haven't played PvP that much either, so I'll stick around for some time. I don't have any other MMOs to play anyway that I subscribe for, and cancelled WoW as well because the game has lost its appeal to me.

    So right now, it's all out TESO for me :)
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