Bank size discussion thread

danreckerpreub18_ESO

Brennan wrote: »

What 200 items do you need to keep that can't be sold, deconstructed, researched, or used for crafting? Face it man - you're hoarding stuff. Why?

This number was an example, but yes, I am hoarding a few things. Specifically, a small sample (One stack or less) of each material I encounter, and specific provisioning things I need, and will need once I find the recipies I am attempting to find. I'm keeping some low level things to make a few items for guildmates now and then, and I was keeping some things to make misc items for lower level friends - I guess those are for my alts now.

I don't see people complain that they have too much loot. I see people complaining in thread after thread after thread about not being able to store the loot. That and thread after thread after thread about the absence of a global, serverwide Auction House.

Potentially valid complaints, I am not addressing those here. They aren't the current issue.

If you want to keep what you earn, then keep it but have enough intelligence to recognize that you don't have and never will have 60,000 slots for all that crap. Maybe take steps to mitigate the strain on your inventory rather than trying to convince everyone that the design of the game should bend to your will.

Yep. I'm referring to the scale of how many items exist. if more exist, and all are potentially useful, logic dictates that you will find more of them more frequently. I have already found this to be correct - there's a reason you can't deconstruct something without 4-5 free slots.

Some of us are doing all 6 professions. /raiseshand

Me too.

Some of us are doing all 6 on a single character. /raiseshand

Me too.

Some of us are not having an issue with the inventory. At least not to the extent that we feel compelled to rage about it on a game forum. /raiseshand

Who is raging? Frustration, sure. Anger? Nah. Rage? What gave you that impression. This is a discussion, perhaps an argument - I am interested in your reasoning, if any exists beyond "But I can do it!" ... I don't have multiple hours to sort through all my random junk without the use of mods. This is just my opinion, but I dont think mods should be required just to manage one's inventory in a reasonable amount of time.

So how is it that I can manage this without the incessant raging and you are not?

Still not seeing the rage. Still not seeing examples of what you do beyond "I can do it." and "Prioritize."

I am really interested in knowing why I can manage this and others can not.

Maybe you are inherently better at inventory management. Maybe you are using mods. Regardless, if THIS many people are complaining about a restriction, to this degree - something needs to be changed. Imposing a system on players that is obviously unpopular will result in less participation in the system. Also known as Subscriptions.

Seriously, help me to understand why this is just an insurmountable endeavor for you.
See above. If you are still confused, i'll go into more detail later on this evening. Heading out for a while.

Maverick827

Clearly you're incapable of discussing this in a civil manner. Hopefully moderators will remove you from the discussion soon.

Brennan

Maverick827 wrote: »

Clearly you're incapable of discussing this in a civil manner. Hopefully moderators will remove you from the discussion soon.

What do you expect when you accuse me of lying and/or exaggerating?

The problem is not the system. The problem is some people refusing to adapt to the system.

Maverick827

I edited my post because I realized that it was too combatative. Some of us have constraint and don't have to resort to personal attacks.

OzzyNOR

Brennan wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Why are you against more easily accessible bank space? How does it hurt you?

It doesn't hurt me either way - because I am an intelligent human being capable of adapting and evolving. Clearly you are not.

It's not broke so my question is why bother "fixing" it?

Then it wouldn't bother you if it changed, so why are you bothering to type long posts here at all about this? .....

Brennan

danreckerpreub18_ESO wrote: »

What 200 items do you need to keep that can't be sold, deconstructed, researched, or used for crafting? Face it man - you're hoarding stuff. Why?

This number was an example, but yes, I am hoarding a few things. Specifically, a small sample (One stack or less) of each material I encounter, and specific provisioning things I need, and will need once I find the recipies I am attempting to find. I'm keeping some low level things to make a few items for guildmates now and then, and I was keeping some things to make misc items for lower level friends - I guess those are for my alts now.

I don't see people complain that they have too much loot. I see people complaining in thread after thread after thread about not being able to store the loot. That and thread after thread after thread about the absence of a global, serverwide Auction House.

Potentially valid complaints, I am not addressing those here. They aren't the current issue.

If you want to keep what you earn, then keep it but have enough intelligence to recognize that you don't have and never will have 60,000 slots for all that crap. Maybe take steps to mitigate the strain on your inventory rather than trying to convince everyone that the design of the game should bend to your will.

Yep. I'm referring to the scale of how many items exist. if more exist, and all are potentially useful, logic dictates that you will find more of them more frequently. I have already found this to be correct - there's a reason you can't deconstruct something without 4-5 free slots.

Some of us are doing all 6 professions. /raiseshand

Me too.

Some of us are doing all 6 on a single character. /raiseshand

Me too.

Some of us are not having an issue with the inventory. At least not to the extent that we feel compelled to rage about it on a game forum. /raiseshand

Who is raging? Frustration, sure. Anger? Nah. Rage? What gave you that impression. This is a discussion, perhaps an argument - I am interested in your reasoning, if any exists beyond "But I can do it!" ... I don't have multiple hours to sort through all my random junk without the use of mods. This is just my opinion, but I dont think mods should be required just to manage one's inventory in a reasonable amount of time.

I am not necessarily referring to you but you already stated here that the inventory issue is causing you to quit. But how many threads about inventory do you think we need? How many people do you think we need accusing people of lying or exaggerating?

danreckerpreub18_ESO wrote: »

So how is it that I can manage this without the incessant raging and you are not?

Still not seeing the rage. Still not seeing examples of what you do beyond "I can do it." and "Prioritize."

I am really interested in knowing why I can manage this and others can not.

Maybe you are inherently better at inventory management. Maybe you are using mods. Regardless, if THIS many people are complaining about a restriction, to this degree - something needs to be changed. Imposing a system on players that is obviously unpopular will result in less participation in the system. Also known as Subscriptions.

Every one of these "I hate the inventory" threads has posts from myself and others with tips for mitigating the limitations (intended) of the inventory. You can choose to use them, ignore them. It affects me not at all.

Less than 10% of people polled here are ready to cancel their subscriptions due to the inventory. So this is pure hyperbole.

danreckerpreub18_ESO wrote: »

Seriously, help me to understand why this is just an insurmountable endeavor for you.
See above. If you are still confused, i'll go into more detail later on this evening. Heading out for a while.

I am happy to help however I can. We can continue this when you return.

Maverick827

The poll shows 31%, not "less than 10%"

And we need exactly as many threads as it takes for Zenimax to actually talk abut the topic.

Brennan

Maverick827 wrote: »

The poll shows 31%, not "less than 10%"

And we need exactly as many threads as it takes for Zenimax to actually talk abut the topic.

Less than 10% - Source.

Zenimax has already talked about it.

They also did not talk about it, at least Prior didn't talk about it being anything that would be worked on this year.

Aww. Maybe next year little fella.

Maverick827

I thought you were referring to the much larger and more reliable poll.

Brennan

Maverick827 wrote: »

I thought you were referring to the much larger and more reliable poll.

You were mistaken. Not the first time.

And the reliability of the poll was at no point cited as being biased or unreliable. The poll you are referencing was and has been cited as being biased in that the answers were laced with biased commentary.

But since it supports your failed* argument you go on citing it.

*failed - Inventory has not changed since launch. There are no plans to change the inventory.