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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

The Final Assault ( Open the Library Gate) bug

  • AvalonRanger
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    For Zenimax Online team...
    Hey!! Are you "layman" game developer? What the "daedra" is this?

    How many times do you need to fix all of ridiculous bugs!!??
    I already paid money for the play time. Is it still Beta test !?

    At least, please debug more carefully...Don't mess up this title.
    My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
    I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

    2023/12/21
    By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
    Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

    2024/08/23
    Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
  • Spiritreaver_ESO
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    humwine wrote: »
    this is not right. You have to do a certain key strokes in a perfect manner with a time constraint. This is fps trick stuff it does not have a place in a mmorpg. What is wrong is there is no gm to clear the bug for you or any attempt by zeni to correct the bug. Its not the same as a bug with some farmer in the wilds but a main quest bug. Great game but this mis-attention to detail is un-excusable. From my perspective is the they gave the length of the shot shorter then what was required for the left hand one. All the others work but this one because it is the longest shot. The long term effects are that NA Ebonheart wil be short of vets in the PVP, so one alliance is going to become ineffective. End of game.

    I agree 100% with the only workaround possible is to come at this last brazier like it was in a FPS and that is just totally unacceptable in a RPG MMO.

    One question though, is the EP version of this quest different than the AD and DC versions? Because if it is, i just have to waggle my finger at ZOS for reals over this. You'd think they would have wised up after pulling that kind of silliness with Doshia in the Fighter's Guild questline.

    I got past this travesty through sheer luck after ~50 tries over 3 days of being stuck. And to contrast, i beat a frickin' Daedric Prince 1st shot while half-asleep and full of allergy meds....
  • Cathrin
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    This is one of the bugs that have to be fixed as soon as they appear. Sure, there is a solution, but one that let's you jump to virtual death over and over.

    I am very gratefull, that the time I was doing this quest, some guy was standing at the pillar and shooting arrows the way, the player had to jump and was telling, how it is done. Tumbs up for this!
  • Xenia
    Xenia
    Fix this bug pleease!
  • phairdon
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    Another having trouble with this quest. Like most I could not light one particular pipe to get the gate open.
    Decided to abandon the quest and restart which made things worse. Now I cannot light the first pipe on the left hand side as well as the other one everyone seems to be having an issue with.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • Juponen
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Now I cannot light the first pipe on the left hand side
    If I recall you have to stand on a very specific spot (as close as you get without falling off) and the "targetable" spot is smaller that with the others. But it is doable, I retook the quest too.

  • phairdon
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    Juponen wrote: »
    phairdon wrote: »
    Now I cannot light the first pipe on the left hand side
    If I recall you have to stand on a very specific spot (as close as you get without falling off) and the "targetable" spot is smaller that with the others. But it is doable, I retook the quest too.

    First time through it worked for me just fine (the first fire) - trying again now and nothing is happening.

    *update* - finally found the trigger spot for the first fire and managed to jump at the right angle to light the last fire. Hope the trigger points are fixed by the time my other chars get to this stage.
    Edited by phairdon on April 27, 2014 10:11PM
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • f.chainlessnrb19_ESO
    What a crappy design, as ppl have mentioned in this thread the interaction with objects in this game can be so very very horrible... this isnt the only quest where you are having a hard time interacting with something... its mindblowing why its designed so crappy... seriously not like this whole interactive mmo envoirement is new or anything in 2014...

    Been trying for a while and gave up for now...bs.
  • Rakshasa79
    Rakshasa79
    Soul Shriven
    Any chance we can have a GM read and comment on this post? A sticky saying that they are looking into this bug and an ETA of a fix would be appreciated. This quest has been bugged and broken long enough now and is severely blocking peoples progress in the game and sucking enjoyment out of playing. It's even more annoying than the previously broken quest of poor old town that took some doing.
  • AvalonRanger
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    Seriously say,I can't believe this situation.It's very sloppy.
    Ordinarily game developer does not release product with such a serious bugs.
    "serious bug" means "player can't play game normally".

    Last year,I did a lot of debug process in my work.
    "debug" and "fix","debug" and "fix", "debug" and "fix".....
    It's a boring work and not enjoyable,I know that. But,very need.
    Without debug process, all game are mess up.
    It doesn't become product,just a mass of data.
    Developer should not release that sort of thing as a product.
    My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
    I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

    2023/12/21
    By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
    Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

    2024/08/23
    Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
  • Underthing
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    I ran into the bug just now as well. I /bug(ged) it in game. The work around does indeed work but my goodness, how is this bug that's at such a huge choke point not fixed and fixed fast?
  • kasain
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    You don't need to jump on that one far cliff. I missed the cliff and fell to the bottom floor. So I just jumped from there to my death. While doing so you get the chance to "E" use item and it works. Stoll not the best way to do the quest but better than trying to jump and make it on that one platform.

  • robdotcom2002pub19_ESO
    robdotcom2002pub19_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    I thought is was fun. Took quite a few tries. Jump to the left not at the target. Some peoples toons have some pretty outrageous beer bellys.
  • Juponen
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    I thought is was fun. Took quite a few tries. Jump to the left not at the target. Some peoples toons have some pretty outrageous beer bellys.
    Yeah, long after the annoyance of the bugged thing has evaporated you still remember the spectacle of naked toons queueing like lemmings for the jump :D
    Priceless, when you think about it. Really should have made a video for the posterity."The Things We The Gamers Do"
  • alterfenixeb17_ESO
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    One question though, is the EP version of this quest different than the AD and DC versions? Because if it is, i just have to waggle my finger at ZOS for reals over this. You'd think they would have wised up after pulling that kind of silliness with Doshia in the Fighter's Guild questline.
    No, it is same for everyone. I believe that all quests in CH are same for every alliance really (atleast when it comes to main story line there). So yeah, argument that EB will lack vets because of this argument is, well... weird.

    Also regarding Doshia - did you attempt Lyris Doppleganger as it is now? Especially if you play nightblade or even templar? And Lyris is main story quest:-)
  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    iamgusi wrote: »
    guys, i figured it out... you need to jump from the pillar, adjacently left to the gate (as in, 90 degrees to the left, NOT directly at it) and then turn your mouse to it in the air. i got it first try using this method as it has a very long window where you are able to press the ''use'' button.

    so it's still a bug, but in essence only needs one death to rectify it :) enjoy the next stage!

    This definitely works. Unfortunately I had to figure it out the hard way...
  • Spiritreaver_ESO
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    One question though, is the EP version of this quest different than the AD and DC versions? Because if it is, i just have to waggle my finger at ZOS for reals over this. You'd think they would have wised up after pulling that kind of silliness with Doshia in the Fighter's Guild questline.
    No, it is same for everyone. I believe that all quests in CH are same for every alliance really (atleast when it comes to main story line there). So yeah, argument that EB will lack vets because of this argument is, well... weird.

    Also regarding Doshia - did you attempt Lyris Doppleganger as it is now? Especially if you play nightblade or even templar? And Lyris is main story quest:-)

    Yeah and even though i beat her soundly, that fight was a pure pain. I like using bow on bosses 100% on my NB main, but for me Harvesters are mobs that have to be at least partially face tanked. And close up on that thing...not fun even knowing what you are doing.

    * Start off with HA bow shot from sneak

    * Funnel health/ Debilitate spam

    * Backwards kite with bow, reapplying dots as needed til you hear the gong

    * Swap to second bar

    * Lotus fan into her face continue Funnel health spam

    * When orbs get in close, Steel tornado them

    * Resume kiting phase with bow

    * When she's really low on health, back to DW bar and wade back in and quickly pop Soul Tether.
  • Reevster
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    Ya its a pain in the ass for sure, took me like an hour to finally figure it out and jump/move/hit E all at the right time etc.etc, should be fixed for sure. Plus I dont have a gaming mouse which makes thing a bit harder to do the super mario jump /turn/aim/fire but not after a bit a "Rage quit" set in lol.
  • tonyglissonb14_ESO
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    The designer of this quest needs to be kicked in the balls!
  • bjj8383
    bjj8383
    This. Is. Terrible.
  • Anaksuun
    Anaksuun
    Soul Shriven
    My husband and I have been at this for TWO HOURS tonight, and only one of us have gotten this. This is beyond ridiculous!
  • Juponen
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    Anaksuun wrote: »
    My husband and I have been at this for TWO HOURS tonight, and only one of us have gotten this. This is beyond ridiculous!

    There are 2 different successes possible with the 4th brazier:
    A. You hit the brazier (when the beam hits you are already dead) but the quest seemingly does not advance. It's easy to think here that you failed.
    B. You hit the brazier and you get the confirmation that quest stage is finished (if you did the other 3 first).

    In case A do recheck the other 3 braziers. There is/was a design/bug that one of these may need to be relit.

  • kasain
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    You don't need to jump off that high cliff. Many people fail just to make the cliff then jump to their death. If your on the bottom part, you still can jump to your death there, and hit the E button. Less time then when your up on the high pillar, but doable.
  • GossiTheDog
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    This bug needs fixing, Zenimax peeps. It's a bit embarrassing. And by a bit, I mean totally.
  • kasain
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    One question though, is the EP version of this quest different than the AD and DC versions? Because if it is, i just have to waggle my finger at ZOS for reals over this. You'd think they would have wised up after pulling that kind of silliness with Doshia in the Fighter's Guild questline.
    No, it is same for everyone. I believe that all quests in CH are same for every alliance really (atleast when it comes to main story line there). So yeah, argument that EB will lack vets because of this argument is, well... weird.

    Also regarding Doshia - did you attempt Lyris Doppleganger as it is now? Especially if you play nightblade or even templar? And Lyris is main story quest:-)

    Yeah and even though i beat her soundly, that fight was a pure pain. I like using bow on bosses 100% on my NB main, but for me Harvesters are mobs that have to be at least partially face tanked. And close up on that thing...not fun even knowing what you are doing.

    * Start off with HA bow shot from sneak

    * Funnel health/ Debilitate spam

    * Backwards kite with bow, reapplying dots as needed til you hear the gong

    * Swap to second bar

    * Lotus fan into her face continue Funnel health spam

    * When orbs get in close, Steel tornado them

    * Resume kiting phase with bow

    * When she's really low on health, back to DW bar and wade back in and quickly pop Soul Tether.

    One interestng thing about Lyris, at lvl 30-44, if I did uppercut on her. She would beto powerful to get the knock back affect. When I went in lvl 50, the knock back from the Active comand worked. So I wonder what other abilities would eventually while not work, eventually become affective.
  • k9rec
    k9rec
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    Here's a thought on how to fix this. How hard would it be to remove the fourth devise and have the gate unlock after lighting the other three?
  • Raubrey
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    This was awful. It is sure to drive people away -- who needs this? The fight with Molag Bal was exponentially easier and faster to complete, not to mention entertaining. Thanks for the video...going to give it to a friend so he doesn't quit -- bugs are one thing but this is ridiculous given the consequences of not finishing the quest.

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    greybeardsandgals.com
  • Tavore1138
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    Appreciate the pain and suffering of this having done it myself - but isn't the naked cliff jumping comedy almost worth it? Almost...
    GM - Malazan
    Raid Leader - Hungry Wolves
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  • Davngr
    Davngr
    I say it leave it as is but it will probably be fixed.

    The trick to get it to work isn't some video or getting naked. the trick is to understand the mechanic behind the update completely and get your interweb connection as brisk as possible.

    Look up one of the sites that test ping. If your ping is 35+ then good luck, if you're under that then you should be good ( i did it with 25).

    The other thing you should do is go up to one of the easier updates and move your cursor around taking note of where the update is valid. So that when you jump you know exactly where to aim the cursor to get the update. Also if you have a programmable button mouse, go ahead and bind the interact with the world (usually E) key to one of the those mouse buttons and spam it while you aim for the sweet spot.

    fyi, I died so many times that all my equipment was broken and then some before actually starting to analyze the variables behind my epic failure.

    edit.

    When I mentioned the internet connection, I took it for granted that people who know how to clean up their connection. Some suggestions are TURN OFF THE PRON, maybe reset your router, ask your lil brother/sister to stop illegal downloads or whatever.. things of that nature.
    Edited by Davngr on May 4, 2014 11:04PM
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