GUILD STORES - LIST WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.

Viblo

Why does the guild store not have the tabs that our bags and banks have along with a search function? It is almost impossible to find anything in the guild store and no way to sort at all except by price?

korkibucek

It's clear that they need to overhaul the whole system, whilst they are at it they should make a global AH.

ehaas2ndub17_ESO

I agree with all your suggestions Alphashadow

Xaaz

What should be changed? All of it. Put in a real auction house like all real MMO's have.

Alphashado

ZOS_LenaicR wrote: »

Hi guys,

We really appreciate your feedback and this discussion is valuable.
Thanks for your interest in The Elder Scrolls Online.

That is good to hear. I understand that there are more pressing issues that need to be addressed, but hopefully we can take a closer look at not only the guild store, but other issues that have been mentioned here as well like a trade channel and less fees for C.O.D.

We are feeling pressed into spamming zone chat for fair market transactions, and that is just a mess.

shunex

cross guild auction house, search bar so we can look exactly for what we want, and bugs fixed

Hodorius

Would be nice to search in all your guilds at once.

brandon_d2003_ESO

100% agreed!

Jhonleon89

we want a search tool really i just cant find anything in GuildStores

harvester100b16_ESO

def agree on the search function should have been there from start but soon would okish
the ability to join trade guilds is fine without having a server wide ah so im good with that
Not sure if addons can be made to do what needs to be changed that would be a great thing as then you would get a choice as to how you like it setup ect. ( I don't know many people used the default wow AH)
the cut is a little high maybe 15% would be much more in line

Nightpulse

Completely agree, I even had a thread started a couple of days back about Guild Stores with a request to adding a search tool, but a collective Guild store suggestions thread is even better.

As for suggestions, Being able to place a Buy and Sell order would do nicely, being able to see what players want and in general being more efficient, creates a stronger market for guilds.

Secondly, Bids could be a nice addition, though more so in other games.

Thirdly, Clean up the categories. Really is a mess right now and should take priority with the Search tool over other suggestions.

Reduce Guild store and mail COD cut, to 10-15%.

Lastly, Not guild store related but an Economy Sub forum as well as a Suggestions sub forum would be greatly appreciated and will greatly improve the current cesspit the forum state is in right now.

Cookiecut

Didnt real all the comments but the 25% cut will probably never be changed. Its a money sink that ESO developers want in the game! Same with the mailing system CoD. A search feature is needed, more indepth clickable aswell. Cause searching for general materials is not fun @ all

Auricle

Points 2 and 3 should have been implemented from day one. I don't care as much about the house cut, honestly. I just hate feeling like I'm being punished for using the guild store.

It's great that Zenimax is trying to encourage old school player-to-player interactions. I get that. I can understand the reasoning behind it. But, still, my blood pressure shouldn't spike every time I try to use a more efficient form of commerce... I love the game, really, but c'mon guys. You know you did wrong.

moondoggy

/agreed
and thank you ZOS_LenaicR for even replying!

brian_walk2000ub17_ESO

Agreed, it means a lot that someone at ZOS at least had the courtesy to acknowledge this. That being said... I log into this game a few times a day, hoping they've finally fixed the guild stores, its just a matter of time, but im pretty much stuck, bags are full, no info on pricing, cant afford to post items even if there was a way to compare to items already posted, etc. its frustrating, I just log out and check back at the forums, hoping somethings being done so I can get back to the game im paying for =/

Gwarok

Cookiecut wrote: »

Didnt real all the comments but the 25% cut will probably never be changed. Its a money sink that ESO developers want in the game! Same with the mailing system CoD. A search feature is needed, more indepth clickable as well. Cause searching for general materials is not fun @ all

Completely agree, I think one of the key features of ESOnline(and it was actually explained in one of the books that we go searching for; "The Buying Game by Ababael Timsar-Dadisun"; which I first found in the mage's guild main hall in all 3 factions) that totally explains how the Dev(s) went about how the in-game economy was built and how they want us to go about using it to the best of our advantage. By using bartering and the minimal "store" etc. which goes hand in hand with crafting. IMHO it's pretty brilliant actually; totally survival of the fittest, with the BARE minimum starting completely from scratch, Hard as hell? Hell yeah it is, and THAT is what makes it brilliant!!! ...the reality that I have to totally fend for myself with what we got and scrounge up.

Alphashado

Cookiecut wrote: »

Didnt real all the comments but the 25% cut will probably never be changed. Its a money sink that ESO developers want in the game! Same with the mailing system CoD. A search feature is needed, more indepth clickable aswell. Cause searching for general materials is not fun @ all

Myself and many other people would like to see it changed. As mentioned in the OP, there are plenty of other ways to create gold sinks. Penalizing people with such a large cut is a deterrent to most of us. They can charge more for mounts, housing, repair bills, etc w/o discouraging the average merchant from using the Guild Store. The GS is a revolutionary idea, and I applaud them for the ingenuity, but if we want the majority of players to feel engaged with this economy, then we need to encourage the use of the Guild Store, not discourage it. I am a member of a very large trading guild with several hundred members, and the GS fees are one of the most vocal complaints in the guild.

Destabilizator

I was just stoned by disbelief when I first saw the guild shop interface. Who invented those filters? I can drill down all the way to Weapon Glyph, but looking for motif the only chance is to list everything blue and then scroll? "Materials" is the best you can do? Good luck scrolling for potency runes.
At the very least there needs to be filtering by the types (eg. potency runes, iron ingot) and ability to search by name (eg "motif").

wildcard7_forum

100% this. The guild store is unusable like this, the suggestions in the OP are the bare minimum to make it viable. Not being able to search for items makes it impossible to use it.

Vladish

Well, when it comes to guild store I will admit, they haven't performed. But I will give them props for trying something new. It could work as some people here gave valid suggestions. Regardless, it's time to fix this, regardless of how it will be done (among many other things that need to be fixed.)

Booshy

1. Filters that WORK - putting a level range for equipment doesn't work. Searching under materials doesn't work. Both of those just list every item there is.

2. More search categories - Recipes, types of materials broken down by profession, etc.

3. A keyword search function!

4. Less of a cut taken out.

5. Make it so that when I purchase something I get it right away and don't have to relog or use a wayshrine in order to get it any time soon.

Rellyk

100% Agree

stuartoatleyeb17_ESO

/agree with all the OP's points.

Also, while I understand why they've gone the guild store route rather than the auction house route, IMO it's failing. The guild house route was taken to try and prevent supply outstripping demand and therefore pushing prices right down. However, by limiting sales (other than those done by spamming zone) to a maximum of 2495 other players (assuming you're in 5 guilds of 500) the demand has been capped too low and lack of demand drives prices down just as fast as oversupply

Pixie123

Good ideas

Devilfish85

Even though most of the people who've posted seem to have different views than I do, let me just say this thread is awesome. There are a hell of a lot more people here rationally discussing their opinions than people flaming, hating, and fighting eachother over their differences. Well played people.

sse6przb14_ESO

thefreezingvoid wrote: »

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

What i want is a server/faction wide AH. Now , what i will get is whole different matter.

I think your ideas would make the guild AH less bad OP , not good , but for sure less horrible.

Unfortunately you can't have that on mega server, with hundreds of thousands of players using the same auction house. Not sure the exact economics of it, but more than likely items would become dirt cheap due to the rabid availability. Common items would become so cheap, due to constant undercutting, that items would posted for less than the vendor price.

That problem occurs already in games where they have several servers of a few thousand players with a global auction house. But it would be exemplified on a mega server with over a hundred thousand players.

Guild stores are a good alternative, as they limit the availability of the goods posted to the guild themselves. They just need to be optimized to be functional at this point.

I also agree with others, that a trade channel is desperately needed.

but what you could do is break up the megaserver into groups of say 100k, assign a unique identifier to each "character" created and place them with in that group. have it spread across all three alliances and I think you would have a decent AH. and add all the additional comments from the OP and I think it would work out much better

sse6przb14_ESO

Devilfish85 wrote: »

I strongly agree with points 2 and 3. The guild store is unfortunately very awkward and clunky to use, and the lack of a search function is such an oddity that I can only imagine someone literally forgot they were expected to put one in, and no one noticed before launch.

As for point one... I disagree. We've all discussed how TESO is a different type of MMO, in which character build and combat both require a different mentality than traditional MMOs like WoW. However, some people aren't realizing this also applies to the economy. I think we're all just too used to the idea of picking up everything we find with any value and immediately pumping it into the AH, and then using the gold we make to fund things we actually want for ourselves.

TESO takes a different approach. Instead of making money off of every scrap to spend on what you really wanted in the first place, you are encouraged to go out and get what you wanted yourself without the middle step, by playing the actual game. Fifty characters standing in an auction house are fifty characters not playing the game.

The fees are there to reinforce the idea that you put something up for sale when it's actually valuable and unusual, so that a trip to the auction house isn't daily grocery shopping, but rather a place to get something rare and special once in a while. Materials probably do belong on the auction house, but the fees encourage selling in large lots.

Basically, it shifts the balance so that people who work their *** off to get what they want have a better shot at getting it than they do in some other MMOs... where it's down to whether you spend an hour playing the AH with your fancy addons every day or not.

Edit: Can I ever, EVER finish a post without immediately noticing a glaring typo?

I'm sorry but these fee's you are referring to are just like taxes, people will do what ever they can to get around them. don't believe me look at zone chat. the system is NOT working in any shape or form IMO.

Devilfish85

sse6przb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm sorry but these fee's you are referring to are just like taxes, people will do what ever they can to get around them. don't believe me look at zone chat. the system is NOT working in any shape or form IMO.

Anything they can to get around them, like... say... face to face interaction? Trading in person? I'm pretty sure that's the goal, not a sign of a broken system.

Now with that said, you're right about the zone chat. A trade channel would alleviate the problem of clogging our only area-wide means of communication.

sse6przb14_ESO

I'll give an example, I have stacks upon stacks of materials. I am in a crafting and trade guild. it's not that I cant use the GS it's because I don't want to "as stated here in great detail" so if you don't want to use the GS and your more of a SOLO player and really don't want to sit around and spam in the zone channel. what do you do?

I would much rather be playing the GAME by gathering more materials

I am NOT bashing the game in any way, I truly love it. but I would really like to know what other paths I could take to sell what I have collected..... without feeling like I am being punished

WhiteScythe

Xaaz wrote: »

What should be changed? All of it. Put in a real auction house like all real MMO's have.

+ 1 million

LOL

Which is EXACTLY what is needed.