Profit's guide to Leveling Enchanting quickly.‏

Yawner

I am surprised no one has mentioned Tallowby's Crafting Matrix spreadsheet which can be found in several places, including here:
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/crafting-profession-aid-work-in-process/

There is some interesting info collected in the spreadsheets mentioned such as the total Inspiration Points needed for most of the levels. However, the main point is the last tab on the right at the bottom of the spreadsheet, "Maximizing Craft IP." It will show you what to deconstruct to get the max IP for your level. The level 5+ Potency rune (Denara and Iode) made glyphs hold up very well through levels 40-50 in comparison to the higher potency rune made glyphs (and has been pointed out previously, glyphs made with these 5+ potency runes are cheaper than the higher level glyphs usually).

I am fortunate enough to run two accounts and have a fair amount of time to play, so I don't need a partner and pass runes and glyphs across alts from one account to the other. Now that I am level 40, I do have to farm runes to level higher. But once you hit level 50, you can farm runes in the VR1 "starting islands" zones as you can find clusters of runes not far apart with not too many unfriendly types around. The higher level zones do not lend themselves to rune farming as well as the starter islands (at least if the rune spawn locations are the same in the veteran level zones as they are in the standard level zones) as far as I can see.

Great guide here, and thanks every one for their comments. I wish I had seen it before I got to level 40!!

Glsabre

SeñorCinco wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

156/29. You need to count in the experience for the creation as well. 440%.

I agree. Those were the same numbers I got with testing whites from an alt. Still, it's so small of an amount I essentially abandon collecting them anymore or just destroy them from my inventory, as you can get a lot more form a higher tier than you will form a hundred whites.

... it's probably closer to 30 but I threw out 100 for emphasis.

The materials you get, even from low level white glyphs, are useful.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

once you've gotten through the discovery phase( making level 1's of each of the essence runes to "learn them" will take you to level 6). deconning rank 4/5 green glyphs is the best xp/gold. it kills me to see people trading rank 6 runes for xp. you get less xp. and people actually buy vr1 glyphs.

Sneakyfool

Jeez, almost 33 thousand hits on this thread!!

Mind blown.

Ashtaris

Actually my wife and I have come to the conclusion that Enchanting is a major waste of time and inventory resources. I've deconstructed dozens of Glyphs I've collected when fighting mobs, created as many new Glyphs as I could, and I'm still only a level 12 enchanter. And considering most Glyphs are not that expensive, it's not worth the effort. I had much more fun doing Enchanting in Skyrim than I do currently. So we dumped all of our runes to alts and have some breathing room in the bank which is of much more importance at this point. If Zenimax comes out with a decent enchanting system, then I might give it another chance.

Mansome

Sneakyfool wrote: »

Jeez, almost 33 thousand hits on this thread!!

Mind blown.

That one thing alone should tell you there is a problem with the craft.

Cheatingdeath23

Ashtaris wrote: »

Actually my wife and I have come to the conclusion that Enchanting is a major waste of time and inventory resources. I've deconstructed dozens of Glyphs I've collected when fighting mobs, created as many new Glyphs as I could, and I'm still only a level 12 enchanter. And considering most Glyphs are not that expensive, it's not worth the effort. I had much more fun doing Enchanting in Skyrim than I do currently. So we dumped all of our runes to alts and have some breathing room in the bank which is of much more importance at this point. If Zenimax comes out with a decent enchanting system, then I might give it another chance.

I'm doing it casually and am at level 16. Based on my character level (30) I can make Purple level glyphs for myself for the foreseeable future.

To each his own, I like enchanting (although I dislike how slow it is to level, so I'm not defending it). The big thing is I generally use glyphs for armor, so I really only need the 3 armor runes (stamina, health, magicka) and can toss the rest. But I have enough bank space it isn't a problem at the moment, even with blacksmithing and woodworking.

shiva7663

Seems like I never have enough Potency or Aspect runes to get much done.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

Cheatingdeath23 wrote: »

To each his own, I like enchanting (although I dislike how slow it is to level, so I'm not defending it). The big thing is I generally use glyphs for armor, so I really only need the 3 armor runes (stamina, health, magicka) and can toss the rest. But I have enough bank space it isn't a problem at the moment, even with blacksmithing and woodworking.

the thing is armor glyphs are some of the least useful to acutually make.
lets say you make a full set of armor including shield for 8 peices

of those only chest/legs/hat/shield get the full benefit. the other half of them are 40%
you and your armor are vr10 we'll do this for vendor and kuta grades
now a vendor bought magika glyph is 74, and a player made is 85
(74*4) +(30*4)= 416
(85*4) + (34*4)= 476
thats alot of work/gold to put in for a whopping 60m or stam.

the only really useful ones i've found are the armor and resist jewlery buffs. which drastically change between color grades. ( not so much between levels)

and i do make weapon glyphs as well.

Natjur

Jeremy_gelber_ESO wrote: »

you and your armor are vr10 we'll do this for vendor and kuta grades
now a vendor bought magika glyph is 74, and a player made is 85
(74*4) +(30*4)= 416
(85*4) + (34*4)= 476
thats alot of work/gold to put in for a whopping 60m or stam.

The only thing that sells well for me are V10 Fire Resistance glyphs for jewelry.
For armor, buy the standard 'store' glyphs are the way to go (which seems wrong!)

The weapon glyphs don't sell well as some weapon drops have way better glyphs.
V10 weapon glyph +32 unresistiable damage (on a gold weapon) looks good until you get a Pack bow that comes with a 96 unresistiable damage when you upgrade the bow to gold.

Enchantment takes forever to level and only has a few glyphs worth making.

shiva7663

What about the idea of spending, say, 7000 gold on store-bought glyphs and deconstructing them?

Mansome

shiva7663 wrote: »

What about the idea of spending, say, 7000 gold on store-bought glyphs and deconstructing them?

You mean 700,000 gold just to make the bar move?

shiva7663

I'm on a budget. There's no way I'll ever get 700k gold.

Jeremy_gelber_ESO

Natjur wrote: »

The only thing that sells well for me are V10 Fire Resistance glyphs for jewelry.
For armor, buy the standard 'store' glyphs are the way to go (which seems wrong!)

i meant the decrease physical harm jewlery glyph. 580 armor on a couple of rings lets you softcap armor in full cloth. i find em to be pretty handy. i should havebeen more clear

sigsergv

shiva7663 wrote: »

What about the idea of spending, say, 7000 gold on store-bought glyphs and deconstructing them?

Glyphs from the store give almost zero inspiration points.

twev

Sneakyfool wrote: »

[Moderator Note: Edited/Removed moderated quote].

Still only at Lvl 23 Enchant on my Lvl 37 sorc.

She's been at L-50 for Alch and Prov since early May, and started Ench at the same time.

Not complaining, Ench is something that should be earned in the game, and I'm not laser beam focused on only doing Ench.

Cheatingdeath23

twev wrote: »

Sneakyfool wrote: »

Bump.

Still only at Lvl 23 Enchant on my Lvl 37 sorc.

She's been at L-50 for Alch and Prov since early May, and started Ench at the same time.

Not complaining, Ench is something that should be earned in the game, and I'm not laser beam focused on only doing Ench.

I'm level 32 with my VR1, so you're not terribly far behind.

The fasted way I've found to level is to buy rekuta and either swap rekuta glyphs or give them to someone of a higher enchanting to make high level glyphs for you.

If I felt like paying to advance it, this method works flawlessly. I just ran out of rekuta and haven't invested money to get higher than 32.

radiostar

I'm now char level 33 and Enchant level 33 using your tips. I now don't use the Ta and level 1 runes unless requested by a buyer. Your tips were great! But I'm going to stop enchanting at 40 like some have said when you can make all the glyphs. The only reason I'm happy is because I don't have to do this until 50. Unless they come up with a master craftsman title, which I don't really think they will.
Still, nice to see a light at the end of the tunnel!

Dogga

Srugzal

Eris wrote: »

One question, does the xp reduction on deconstruction apply to account or if I had a main and an alt craft and exchange with one another for decon would that be full xp?

XP is character based, so yes, you can pass mats and deconstruction tasks between alts. This is true for the other crafts with deconstructables as well.

The only drawback is that two leveled crafters on one account isn't terribly useful.

korwinthale

My problem is you shouldnt HAVE to have a friend to level this... I'm veteran rank with clothing at 50 and enchanting stuck at 20.... its ridiculous

AlexDougherty

korwinthale wrote: »

My problem is you shouldnt HAVE to have a friend to level this... I'm veteran rank with clothing at 50 and enchanting stuck at 20.... its ridiculous

Yes, it is. I'm doing it with two alts, one crafts for the other. I get more xp from deconstructing than constructing. It's got to decent values now I'm using Kuta and level 8 potency runes when possible, and the levels are levels 35 and 37. But it still looks like a long road before level 50.

Gillysan

I'm at 50 on one character and somewhere on the road getting several others to 32 for the 3/3 Hirelings. I made 50 and dragged a friend along who usually never crafts in MMO's LMAO! All I did was send her packages of runes to make green and blue glyph's, even a few purples. I had to be very orderly because she isn't and loses things. Then she would mail the glyphs back. She would make a couple of levels and I would make 4 from the runes I gathered. We both made gains in enchanting.

You know it is OK to make one or two friends in a MMO.

Sneakyfool

Necroing this thread since I've recently returned to the game and I see some people are still having trouble leveling this craft.

Will be willing to help any on the EU server that need help, just send me a message in game.

MattT1988

Good advice mate. Thanks.

SpAEkus

Well if necroed,

Here's the most current Craft-Decon numbers:


forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/226749/craft-decon-ip-data-as-of-pts-patch-2.2.8-orsinium-dlc

Sneakyfool

Awesome love me some stats.

aquiella

Great information! Thank you for sharing!

Sneakyfool

Will update shortly.

Adraeus

So, what I got from this thread is this: if you're going to deconstruct something you made, use an alt. Does the alt have to be on a separate account?