GAMEBREAKING: Please nerf hirelings ASAP, or get rid of them altogether.
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think it is terrible the way to get the best gear is to have the best luck at RNG for having the most hirelings.
I have two account and can double my chances of having better gear than anyone that only has one.
For those that do not know:
The game does not drop legendary(yellow gear) it has to be upgraded using components. The best source of the components is to run 8x hireling type on 8 char's. I can do 16. Each day even though you are only lvl 3 and only get lowly mats it has a small chance to give you one of the legendary upgrade items. You get 32 chests/mail .. more if you provision.
This is horrible and needs to change or else it is just a game of 'who had the better chance(RNG) of alt hireling returning goddies. People are basically setting up their alts setting hireling and planning to forget them for months and let the legendaries roll in with absolutely no effort other than a daily login.
I have a leg up on almost every player out there (except those in same boat) and I think this should be changed. That should tell you something.
The number of hireling you can have legitimately exploiting this is directly proportional to your number of character slot, your character slots is directly proportional to the number of accounts you own. The number of accounts you own is directly proportional to how much money you spend on the game. This is a slippery Pay to Win slope. Very slippery indeed.
Legendary should only return from hireling for high level characters (profession or main). Having access to the best items in game due to 'mail lottery' is not the game I signed up for and I am sure many can feel the same.
The simplest solution however would be to ONLY allow an account to receive one particular hireling mail a day and not 8.
I believe unless this needs to be addressed right away, and is already having an effect on and endgame that has yet to be reached for many. And yes it is worthy of an emergency patch due to the exploitation going on around it, I would not even crab about the downtime needed on a weekend no less. This effects everyone and will only magnify over time.
Please voice your opinions.
* disclaimer
I dont think this is gamebreaking so much at this time but did post on day 2 and still say it had a huge impact at that time but in the wake of the dupes it is far less game breaking but still do not think it is functioning as intended and still broke.
I agree with this so much, that I quoted it ONLY to have it restated.
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_JasonL wrote: »Hey there, everyone. We appreciate you taking the time to report potential exploits, however we have removed the video as we do not want to bring attention to such videos. We are currently investigating. In the future, if you encounter a potential exploit, we ask that you use the reported posts function or contact our Support Team. Thank you for your understanding.
This "technique" allows "users" to get way ahead of everyone else; who has to compete with that "user" who "fairly earned" (won't have deleted) their "ill-gotten gains." People should know what is going on so they don't wind up on the bottom end of an inequality from "ill-gotten gains" that results in 1,000 players having 1,000 of each rare crafting mat vs 20,000 players who have 4 of each.
As of right now, is this considered an exploit/bug? Can a person get banned for doing it? Will this be changed to make the character who "created" the hireling produce mats based on their level or left as is? For how long?Edited by Soloeus on May 1, 2014 4:04PM
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Milanna✭✭✭@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.Edited by Milanna on May 1, 2014 4:08PMEU-server
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Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.
Ah, you're insinuating that I'm an account of Daverios, I assure I am not. The seem to have a habit of believing in false information, you should get that checked out.Edited by Laharl_Overlord on May 1, 2014 4:20PM0 -
Milanna✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.
Ah, you're insinuating that I'm an account of Daverios, I assure I am not. The seem to have a habit of believing in false information, you should get that checked out.
It does raise a question or two when someone asks you not to quote him, pointing to something someone else wrote, dont you agree?EU-server
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Daverios✭✭✭✭@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.
That was my bad. And I did make a mistake and quoted the wrong post. I did remove my post in like 2 minutes after making it, infact before you hit submit on yours. Apologies.
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Milanna✭✭✭@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.
That was my bad. And I did make a mistake and quoted the wrong post. I did remove my post in like 2 minutes after making it, infact before you hit submit on yours. Apologies.
Aaaaah
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Daverios✭✭✭✭@Daverios
I haven´t changed text. I have BOLDED text.
And I´m sorry. Are you Demondhfldhfdfh? Or Laharl Overlord perhaps? That would explain a few things.
Edit: You should really check what account you are on before posting.
That was my bad. And I did make a mistake and quoted the wrong post. I did remove my post in like 2 minutes after making it, infact before you hit submit on yours. Apologies.
Aaaaah
Yup sorry, was posting on smartphone / mobile site which is trimmed down and even less user friendly than the full blown site if you can believe it.
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Milanna✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »
Ah, you're insinuating that I'm an account of Daverios, I assure I am not. The seem to have a habit of believing in false information, you should get that checked out.
And I´m not saying this is you, but let´s pretend it´s Alan. You know, Alan, from Two and a half men.
Alan finds himself exposed. He slipped. So he tries to discredit the one who outed him so that his own slip will go somewhat unnoticed.
Oh d**n you deleted it!Edited by Milanna on May 1, 2014 4:24PMEU-server
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Daverios✭✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »
Ah, you're insinuating that I'm an account of Daverios, I assure I am not. The seem to have a habit of believing in false information, you should get that checked out.
And I´m not saying this is you, but let´s pretend it´s Alan. You know, Alan, from Two and a half men.
Alan finds himself exposed. He slipped. So he tries to discredit the one who outed him so that his own slip will go somewhat unnoticed.
Oh d**n you deleted it!
ugh I hate that show. It was only good when sheen was celebrity-raging.
PS nothing to expose. Mod / support know what my other account is. Never tried to hide it but also never activated its forum account =D
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SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Having multiple accounts wouldn't make this worse unless every account had someone at 3/3 in every hireling. (Which is unlikely a month in)
You are gravley mistaken. It is SUPER EASY to level the 2nd toon because voila you have literally hundreds of hundreds of spare mats. Craft junk and trade to other account. Bing bang boom you have 3/3.
It tougher to lvl to 10ish so you have enough skill points for 3/3 in all crafts. If only there was an easy way to stand in one spot and just lvl ... oh wait. NOW you understand why the bots do it.
Bing bang, mailing 6 items at a time between accounts would take hours even with a second PC- Not to mention the hours it would take to craft enough weapons/armor to get a toon to 3/3 on 4 crafts. Nobody has that much spare mats, there isn't enough bank space in the world.
I'll agree, once you have a 3/3 on one toon its easy to exploit as it stands, but quit trying to make it sound like getting 4 crafts to 3/3 only takes an hour on a fresh account. That's stupid.
@SunfireKnight86, this topic would have so fewer pointless posts if you guys would just read and learn how this works before dismissing it.
I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account.
wrong.....
I'm not wrong unless you're seriously trying to argue that getting a gold item every week per hireling is OP at 1/3, in which case you should trade in your pc for a pacifier.
This is only an exploitable system at 3/3 when you get golds in at minimum every other box. And even then its only a bug because you can have the 3/3 open the 1/3 boxes and get gold as if it was a 3/3. The system is great otherwise.
Or are you just mad that crafters don't have to grind raids to get mats to make gear that isn't as good as what drops in the raid anyway?Edited by SunfireKnight86 on May 1, 2014 4:31PM1 -
Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »
Ah, you're insinuating that I'm an account of Daverios, I assure I am not. The seem to have a habit of believing in false information, you should get that checked out.
And I´m not saying this is you, but let´s pretend it´s Alan. You know, Alan, from Two and a half men.
Alan finds himself exposed. He slipped. So he tries to discredit the one who outed him so that his own slip will go somewhat unnoticed.
Oh d**n you deleted it!
Lol, I didn't see Daverios post before it was deleted so I was confused. So added that next paragraph before I knew why you were insinuating I was him. After I saw the reason you thought I was him, it made sense. So I deleted my second because it sounded too harsh then.
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Daverios✭✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Having multiple accounts wouldn't make this worse unless every account had someone at 3/3 in every hireling. (Which is unlikely a month in)
You are gravley mistaken. It is SUPER EASY to level the 2nd toon because voila you have literally hundreds of hundreds of spare mats. Craft junk and trade to other account. Bing bang boom you have 3/3.
It tougher to lvl to 10ish so you have enough skill points for 3/3 in all crafts. If only there was an easy way to stand in one spot and just lvl ... oh wait. NOW you understand why the bots do it.
Bing bang, mailing 6 items at a time between accounts would take hours even with a second PC- Not to mention the hours it would take to craft enough weapons/armor to get a toon to 3/3 on 4 crafts. Nobody has that much spare mats, there isn't enough bank space in the world.
I'll agree, once you have a 3/3 on one toon its easy to exploit as it stands, but quit trying to make it sound like getting 4 crafts to 3/3 only takes an hour on a fresh account. That's stupid.
@SunfireKnight86, this topic would have so fewer pointless posts if you guys would just read and learn how this works before dismissing it.
I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account.
wrong.....
I'm not wrong unless you're seriously trying to argue that getting a gold item every week is OP, in which case you should trade in your pc for a pacifier.
I got 10 Dreugh Wax and 14 Elegant lining JUST from clothing last night. If you think it is one a week you are just not understanding or lack the capacity. Walk away now please.
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Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Having multiple accounts wouldn't make this worse unless every account had someone at 3/3 in every hireling. (Which is unlikely a month in)
You are gravley mistaken. It is SUPER EASY to level the 2nd toon because voila you have literally hundreds of hundreds of spare mats. Craft junk and trade to other account. Bing bang boom you have 3/3.
It tougher to lvl to 10ish so you have enough skill points for 3/3 in all crafts. If only there was an easy way to stand in one spot and just lvl ... oh wait. NOW you understand why the bots do it.
Bing bang, mailing 6 items at a time between accounts would take hours even with a second PC- Not to mention the hours it would take to craft enough weapons/armor to get a toon to 3/3 on 4 crafts. Nobody has that much spare mats, there isn't enough bank space in the world.
I'll agree, once you have a 3/3 on one toon its easy to exploit as it stands, but quit trying to make it sound like getting 4 crafts to 3/3 only takes an hour on a fresh account. That's stupid.
@SunfireKnight86, this topic would have so fewer pointless posts if you guys would just read and learn how this works before dismissing it.
I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account.
wrong.....
I'm not wrong unless you're seriously trying to argue that getting a gold item every week per hireling is OP at 1/3, in which case you should trade in your pc for a pacifier.
This is only an exploitable system at 3/3 when you get golds in at minimum every other box. And even then its only a bug because you can have the 3/3 open the 1/3 boxes and get gold as if it was a 3/3. The system is great otherwise.
Or are you just made that crafters don't have to grind raids to get mats to make gear that isn't as good as what drops in the raid anyway?
"I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account."
That is wrong information, simple as that. You don't need 3/3 hireling. It works very with just 1/3 hireling. I know from experience. You're making it seem much harder than it really is.
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SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭I challenge you to buy a new account and get every craft hireling to 3/3 in "a few hours" you bunch of drama queens.4
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Milanna✭✭✭I got 10 Dreugh Wax and 14 Elegant lining JUST from clothing last night. If you think it is one a week you are just not understanding or lack the capacity. Walk away now please.
Yeah, lord... um nevermind.
I have so far recieved 4 legendary items in hierling mail. I have a lot of hierlings. I mostly get ore, wood, leather and cloth. Sometimes a blue.
I must be nerfed already!EU-server
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Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »I challenge you to buy a new account and get every craft hireling to 3/3 in "a few hours" you bunch of drama queens.
You don't need 3/3. That's what I'm saying. You get legendary and epic items everyday even with 1/3.0 -
SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Having multiple accounts wouldn't make this worse unless every account had someone at 3/3 in every hireling. (Which is unlikely a month in)
You are gravley mistaken. It is SUPER EASY to level the 2nd toon because voila you have literally hundreds of hundreds of spare mats. Craft junk and trade to other account. Bing bang boom you have 3/3.
It tougher to lvl to 10ish so you have enough skill points for 3/3 in all crafts. If only there was an easy way to stand in one spot and just lvl ... oh wait. NOW you understand why the bots do it.
Bing bang, mailing 6 items at a time between accounts would take hours even with a second PC- Not to mention the hours it would take to craft enough weapons/armor to get a toon to 3/3 on 4 crafts. Nobody has that much spare mats, there isn't enough bank space in the world.
I'll agree, once you have a 3/3 on one toon its easy to exploit as it stands, but quit trying to make it sound like getting 4 crafts to 3/3 only takes an hour on a fresh account. That's stupid.
@SunfireKnight86, this topic would have so fewer pointless posts if you guys would just read and learn how this works before dismissing it.
I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account.
wrong.....
I'm not wrong unless you're seriously trying to argue that getting a gold item every week per hireling is OP at 1/3, in which case you should trade in your pc for a pacifier.
This is only an exploitable system at 3/3 when you get golds in at minimum every other box. And even then its only a bug because you can have the 3/3 open the 1/3 boxes and get gold as if it was a 3/3. The system is great otherwise.
Or are you just made that crafters don't have to grind raids to get mats to make gear that isn't as good as what drops in the raid anyway?
"I'm aware of how it works. For it to work you need a 3/3 Hireling on THAT account."
That is wrong information, simple as that. You don't need 3/3 hireling. It works very with just 1/3 hireling. I know from experience. You're making it seem much harder than it really is.
Chart it then. Make a 1/3 hireling in each craft and chart what you get, with pictures, on that 1/3 for a week without using the bugged mail ***.
And yes, Daverios, we are aware that you can exploit the system. Walk your cheating ass away now if the reading comprehension thing is getting to be too much for you.Edited by SunfireKnight86 on May 1, 2014 4:39PM1 -
Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭I got 10 Dreugh Wax and 14 Elegant lining JUST from clothing last night. If you think it is one a week you are just not understanding or lack the capacity. Walk away now please.
Yeah, lord... um nevermind.
I have so far recieved 4 legendary items in hierling mail. I have a lot of hierlings. I mostly get ore, wood, leather and cloth. Sometimes a blue.
I must be nerfed already!
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Milanna✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »
No, you're just not doing it right.
Well, then there seem to be not much of an issue. It obviously very tricky.EU-server
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SunfireKnight86✭✭✭✭Better nerf the extracting skills while we're at it. I get golds from that too. I think the only way we should get good mats is from running endgame raids five hundred times. That makes more sense if I play as a crafter. #Sarcasm3
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Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Better nerf the extracting skills while we're at it. I get golds from that too. I think the only way we should get good mats is from running endgame raids five hundred times. That makes more sense if I play as a crafter. #Sarcasm
I get that this method is tricky for some. Go to YouTube, learn how it works. Then comment.
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Milanna✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »SunfireKnight86 wrote: »Better nerf the extracting skills while we're at it. I get golds from that too. I think the only way we should get good mats is from running endgame raids five hundred times. That makes more sense if I play as a crafter. #Sarcasm
I get that this method is tricky for some. Go to YouTube, learn how it works. Then comment.
Do botters/goldsellers take tutorials at youtube? Imagine that!Edited by Milanna on May 1, 2014 4:53PMEU-server
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Laharl_Overlord wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »I really dont see the point of this thread. worrying about hirelings , which everyone can have the same of and use the same, instead of focusing on things that are not functional or are out of balance between classes and players... ahh well
yeah you right, it jsut means you can have an ridiculous amount of potential gold every day... no big deal. I mean the economy is noexistent in this game anyway right, so who cares if everyone has more epic and legendary craftingmats then he need, you dont even need to sell them, you have enough for you own, everything is fine. gg nice game... are you serious?
correction.. it means everyone can have a ridiculous amount of gold every day so its not imbalanced and therefore doesn't deserve wasting outrage over when there are far more pressing issues to fix.
@sociald100ub17_ESO More great logic from this thread. Guess what, everyone could do the dupe exploits. Everyone can buy gold. So those are fine too? Because everyone can do them? lol
Well see now there you go bringing in an ridiculousness with an apples and oranges. the gold selling is against the eula, for one so that wasn't even worthy of bringing up. The dupe is something that is most definitely and obviously a software defect. the hireling thing is not at all. they knew how it could be used and its in the game.
So make a real comparison and we can talk.
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I think it is terrible the way to get the best gear is to have the best luck at RNG for having the most hirelings.
I have two account and can double my chances of having better gear than anyone that only has one.
For those that do not know:
The game does not drop legendary(yellow gear) it has to be upgraded using components. The best source of the components is to run 8x hireling type on 8 char's. I can do 16. Each day even though you are only lvl 3 and only get lowly mats it has a small chance to give you one of the legendary upgrade items. You get 32 chests/mail .. more if you provision.
This is horrible and needs to change or else it is just a game of 'who had the better chance(RNG) of alt hireling returning goddies. People are basically setting up their alts setting hireling and planning to forget them for months and let the legendaries roll in with absolutely no effort other than a daily login.
I have a leg up on almost every player out there (except those in same boat) and I think this should be changed. That should tell you something.
The number of hireling you can have legitimately exploiting this is directly proportional to your number of character slot, your character slots is directly proportional to the number of accounts you own. The number of accounts you own is directly proportional to how much money you spend on the game. This is a slippery Pay to Win slope. Very slippery indeed.
Legendary should only return from hireling for high level characters (profession or main). Having access to the best items in game due to 'mail lottery' is not the game I signed up for and I am sure many can feel the same.
The simplest solution however would be to ONLY allow an account to receive one particular hireling mail a day and not 8.
I believe unless this needs to be addressed right away, and is already having an effect on and endgame that has yet to be reached for many. And yes it is worthy of an emergency patch due to the exploitation going on around it, I would not even crab about the downtime needed on a weekend no less. This effects everyone and will only magnify over time.
Please voice your opinions.
* disclaimer
I dont think this is gamebreaking so much at this time but did post on day 2 and still say it had a huge impact at that time but in the wake of the dupes it is far less game breaking but still do not think it is functioning as intended and still broke.
I run six characters each with a different crafting skill, but let me point out what I see with this post to nerf a way I have of getting the items I will want to craft for myself.
OP runs two accounts, mentions eight characters each, for a total of sixteen characters getting thirty-two RNG mail items. These have, apparently, been collecting for over a month stockpiling and creating "a leg up on almost every player out there" besides other players with stockpiles.
Liberally using the word EXPLOITING for something that OP has been doing over a month ... now wants to limit all hirelings to main character only or main profession and receive only one mail per day, not OPs, "not the game I signed up for", 32.
That this "must be addressed right away" using an "emergency patch" using a weekend of down time to patch this EXPLOITATION .
But! "I [don't] think this is [game breaking]".
I think my opinion is clear, but for those that want a quick break down ...
OP has been using and stockpiling items from thirty-two characters using two accounts in what OP claims is an EXPLOIT on multiple occasions, but the OP was more than willing to "EXPLOIT" until now, why? Now that a large enough stockpile has been accumulated there is a desire to kill the chance for others to receive those same items to create a market for those "EXPLOITED" items?
Why cut the legs out from me to limit my chances and ability of getting these needed items for my crafting by limiting that single item to only my "main" or to just one of my crafts?
Do not hurt my crafting because you have been "EXPLOITING" for over a month. I use the Hirelings for each of my eligible crafting characters, I have six to cover one of each craft, and the only "EXPLOIT" appears to be the OP and "those in the same boat" that use all the Hirelings on only one craft, not five of the six crafts.
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Laharl_Overlord✭✭✭sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »I really dont see the point of this thread. worrying about hirelings , which everyone can have the same of and use the same, instead of focusing on things that are not functional or are out of balance between classes and players... ahh well
yeah you right, it jsut means you can have an ridiculous amount of potential gold every day... no big deal. I mean the economy is noexistent in this game anyway right, so who cares if everyone has more epic and legendary craftingmats then he need, you dont even need to sell them, you have enough for you own, everything is fine. gg nice game... are you serious?
correction.. it means everyone can have a ridiculous amount of gold every day so its not imbalanced and therefore doesn't deserve wasting outrage over when there are far more pressing issues to fix.
@sociald100ub17_ESO More great logic from this thread. Guess what, everyone could do the dupe exploits. Everyone can buy gold. So those are fine too? Because everyone can do them? lol
Well see now there you go bringing in an ridiculousness with an apples and oranges. the gold selling is against the eula, for one so that wasn't even worthy of bringing up. The dupe is something that is most definitely and obviously a software defect. the hireling thing is not at all. they knew how it could be used and its in the game.
So make a real comparison and we can talk.
@sociald100ub17_ESO, So zos removed a video illustrating how to do this and said they're looking into it, yet you believe it is intentional gameplay? Ok....
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Krym✭✭✭Laharl_Overlord wrote: »
I find it truly amazing, the claims people will make when they have no idea. Test it yourself. Or watch one of the videos. Why do you think zos removed the video and said they're looking into this?
Did you even read @Krym posts on this thread. He was ill-informed about the entire method.
assuming assumptions
devs say a lot (and don't) to sell their game, we have absolutely now proof whatsoever how the loot mechanic exactly works, you ASSUME it gives you more tempers because what? numbers from your personal sample? cause zos programmers are frigging lazy?
assumptions make a *** argument.
like I said, when we assume things we can also assume they've run the numbers and/or don't bother with it cause the tempers will mean *** later on anyway. they also could've slapped a DR on it. we simply don't know.
still doesn't mean it's "broken" or "gamebreaking", even if we assume the worst possible it merely increases the supply of items, whoopdidoo. in the meantime zos is nerfing gold-gain and drops left and right because they can't design around bots, remind me again why I should care about hirelings? because some ppl think they should work differently?
EDIT: actually, we're BOTH wrong, since it seems you even got runes and other stuff above your level, so we can assume feats don't get checked or not all the time (or zos scripted it to ignore max level, since we're assuming, right?)Edited by Krym on May 1, 2014 10:21PM1 -
Laharl_Overlord wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »Laharl_Overlord wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »I really dont see the point of this thread. worrying about hirelings , which everyone can have the same of and use the same, instead of focusing on things that are not functional or are out of balance between classes and players... ahh well
yeah you right, it jsut means you can have an ridiculous amount of potential gold every day... no big deal. I mean the economy is noexistent in this game anyway right, so who cares if everyone has more epic and legendary craftingmats then he need, you dont even need to sell them, you have enough for you own, everything is fine. gg nice game... are you serious?
correction.. it means everyone can have a ridiculous amount of gold every day so its not imbalanced and therefore doesn't deserve wasting outrage over when there are far more pressing issues to fix.
@sociald100ub17_ESO More great logic from this thread. Guess what, everyone could do the dupe exploits. Everyone can buy gold. So those are fine too? Because everyone can do them? lol
Well see now there you go bringing in an ridiculousness with an apples and oranges. the gold selling is against the eula, for one so that wasn't even worthy of bringing up. The dupe is something that is most definitely and obviously a software defect. the hireling thing is not at all. they knew how it could be used and its in the game.
So make a real comparison and we can talk.
@sociald100ub17_ESO, So zos removed a video illustrating how to do this and said they're looking into it, yet you believe it is intentional gameplay? Ok....
So you are saying someone made a video on how to make a character, get to lvl 3 in a craft and click the button for hireling passive skill? its relaly that hard that someone needed a video?
I think you are confusing a video removed for something else.2