Arachnophobia mode

Syldras

Ph1p wrote: »

Thanks for sharing. You and I are probably thinking of very different time frames. Public attitudes have definitely changed over the past decades, going from institutionalizing children and stigmatizing their parents to the more tolerant and aware situation you're describing. I should have clarified this better.

Yeah. I assumed you meant recent developments as you wrote about "widespread public awareness". That's only the case for the past 5 years or so here, or maybe one decade. The term "neurodivergence" isn't known by most people even today. But still before that, people have been quite tolerant for decades already. Institutionalizing children in some cases of "neurodivergence" (again, I think it's a useless term, as people with ADHS, Asperger's, tourette, epilepsy, schizophrenia and what else is labelled as this nowadays, were treated widely differently) has been over since the 1960's or so where I live and has never been a big thing as in other countries, apprently.

And even before that, most people didn't bat an eye at most cases of "neurodivergence". "Quirky" it was. The kid with ADHS? Just a kid that's a bit more fidgety than the average. The kid with Asperger's? A bit quirky, not that social, calm, a "little professor". I feel it was a friendlier world view than today. After all it does make a difference whether the mindset is "We're all different, some are just a bit more quirky" or whether there are two neatly separated boxes ("neurotypical" and "neurodivergent", or, more simple: "normal" and "the rest"). Interestingly, in other contexts, people call that way of thinking "othering" and it's understood that this makes things worse. But now, labelling is the thing to do, I know.

Yeah, I know, I'm babbling

Back on topic, this is right, of course:

Ph1p wrote: »

There are many cases where the problem hasn't suddenly popped up. It's always been there and now we are simply more aware of it

Ardriel

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Ardriel wrote: »

I have arachnophobia myself. When I started with WOW, I first thought, oh my God, so many spiders... but it never triggered my phobia. I thought the WOW spiders were cute and hunters with spider pets were cool. Even the biggest and nastiest ones didn't scare me. Here in ESO, the spiders are a bit more realistic. Nevertheless, none of them trigger my phobia, no matter how disgusting. And Velidreth is really disgusting. But also funny. She says funny things. When I do the dungeon, I just pay attention to the mechanics and all that’s scary is when people have no idea about these. Not the spider boss.
No offence but I can't understand this discussion. It's completely exaggerated. The spiders are absolutely part of the ESO world. Tamriel wouldn't be the same without them. I hope the developers have enough sense and ignore this concern. Bugs and server performance should be the focus, not silly little things like this.
Please realize that this is just a game. The spiders are not real. Perhaps it will help you to get used to them a little. I mean, my own arachnophobia actually got better after all these virtual battles... Now I let smaller specimens (up to 2 cm in diameter) crawl over my hand... um .. ok well, 1.5 cm...

It is great that your arachnophobia isn't triggered by the spiders, but that doesn't mean your experience is universal, nor does it mean everyone is able to get over their phobia by being constantly triggered. It also isnt' a 'silly little thing' when someone has a genuine phobia of the spiders and are triggered by them (and in that case, they probably *don't* play a lot of these games, which could mean that if more games started implementing phobia modes like WoW, it would bring in those players because now they can feel comfortable playing)

Of course my experience isn't universal and I don't assume that. But you don't overcome a phobia by avoiding any situation that could trigger it. This has already been written before. An arachnophobia mode wouldn't really help these people. If a person can't distinguish between reality and the virtual world, they have a far worse problem than arachnophobia. An arachnophobia mode would only support this inability to distinguish reality from virtuality. By suggesting that pixel spiders are actually real, scary creatures that should be switched off.
Apart from that, there are lots of other phobias, against animals, fear of heights, underwater, all sorts of things. Should there also be a special mode for these? Why are arachnophobics favored and people who are afraid of cats, dogs, insects, heights, skeletons, sweetrolls, cheese, etc. ignored? Then there must be a special mode for all phobias?
I do indeed think that these are minor issues. There are far more serious things (performance, bugs) that make ESO partially unplayable for many people, which is why they have given up on the game.

JemadarofCaerSalis

Ardriel wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

Ardriel wrote: »

I have arachnophobia myself. When I started with WOW, I first thought, oh my God, so many spiders... but it never triggered my phobia. I thought the WOW spiders were cute and hunters with spider pets were cool. Even the biggest and nastiest ones didn't scare me. Here in ESO, the spiders are a bit more realistic. Nevertheless, none of them trigger my phobia, no matter how disgusting. And Velidreth is really disgusting. But also funny. She says funny things. When I do the dungeon, I just pay attention to the mechanics and all that’s scary is when people have no idea about these. Not the spider boss.
No offence but I can't understand this discussion. It's completely exaggerated. The spiders are absolutely part of the ESO world. Tamriel wouldn't be the same without them. I hope the developers have enough sense and ignore this concern. Bugs and server performance should be the focus, not silly little things like this.
Please realize that this is just a game. The spiders are not real. Perhaps it will help you to get used to them a little. I mean, my own arachnophobia actually got better after all these virtual battles... Now I let smaller specimens (up to 2 cm in diameter) crawl over my hand... um .. ok well, 1.5 cm...

It is great that your arachnophobia isn't triggered by the spiders, but that doesn't mean your experience is universal, nor does it mean everyone is able to get over their phobia by being constantly triggered. It also isnt' a 'silly little thing' when someone has a genuine phobia of the spiders and are triggered by them (and in that case, they probably *don't* play a lot of these games, which could mean that if more games started implementing phobia modes like WoW, it would bring in those players because now they can feel comfortable playing)

Of course, my experience istn't universal and I don't assume that. But you don't overcome a phobia by avoiding any situation that could trigger it. This has already been written before. An arachnophobia mode wouldn't really help these people. If a person can't distinguish between reality and the virtual world, they have a far worse problem than arachnophobia. An arachnophobia mode would only support this inability to distinguish reality from virtuality. By suggesting that pixel spiders are actually real, scary creatures that should be switched off.
Apart from that, there are lots of other phobias, against animals, fear of heights, underwater, all sorts of things. Should there also be a special mode for these? Why are arachnophobics favored and people who are afraid of cats, dogs, insects, heights, skeletons, sweetrolls, cheese, etc. ignored? Then there must be a special mode for all phobias?
I do indeed think that these are minor issues. There are far more serious things (performance, bugs) that make ESO partially unplayable for many people, which is why they have given up on the game.

Of course a person can't avoid it in *any* situation, but that doesn't mean that *every* situation they have to be confronted by it.

Beyond that, if it doesn't help them? That is their business and not mine. I am not their therapist. I am not related to them. If they want to make their gaming life easier and potentially make their phobia worse, again, that is their choice to do so.

It has nothing to do with being able to distinguish reality from fiction, it has to do with an *irrational* part of the person's brain triggering. Most, if not all, people I know who want such modes in games, myself included, have no problems telling that games and movies aren't real. That still doesn't stop the irrational part of the brain from reacting to a phobia. Again, that is the definition of a phobia, an irrational fear that people can't control. It doesn't make sense. Because it isn't rational.

As for why not other phobias? I suggested a way that other phobias, at least animal related ones, could be handled, but beyond that, and I just looked it up, arachnophobia is at the top of the list of fears, with fear of snakes just below it. This means that there are likely far more arachnophobics and people who are afraid of snakes playing than people who are afraid of sweetrolls (as an example). As for fear of heights, it is much easier to swap out models than it is to flatten all the land. As with any mechanic, certain aspects have to be taken into consideration and usefulness and feasiblity are two of those.

As for the bug thing, yeah, ESO does need to focus on bugs, but that also doesn't mean that the same team that handles bugs also handles development of new features. IE, ESO is still creating new mechanics (such as the housing tour thing, and there is supposed to be a PvP update with the next update) and can still work on bugs, so creating a mechanic for people with phobias doesn't have to take away from fixing bugs (and shouldn't)

wolfie1.0.

We can't even get colorblind modes.. so I doubt this will happen.

Soarora

Syldras wrote: »

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

Phobias are mostly from traumatic events,like a dog attacks child that gets hurt bad and now they think all will do it,cause they were too young to understand.

That's not how it works. It's not limited to children and it's not about "not understanding". It's an involuntary brain reaction. After a trauma, even completely harmless things can cause panic when they remind of the situation when something horrible happened. As an example, some people who lived in a war zone panic when they hear fireworks. It doesn't matter if they're adults, and it doesn't matter either that they know it's not shots or bombs but just fireworks and harmless, the sound of it alone will make them extremely nervous and uncomfortable.

Not all phobias are necessarily traumagenic either. I have pittakionophobia, no idea what could’ve triggered it as I’ve had it as far as I remember and it’s a rather strange phobia. I’ve had it long before I even knew it was a phobia.

Syldras

Soarora wrote: »

Not all phobias are necessarily traumagenic either.

I know. I've written that before. I just wanted to reply on the trauma thing the user was writing, because it's completely inaccurate.

Anachronian

While I personally support including such accessibility modes, real-world limitations on development time and PS4/XB1/lower end PC limit what can be added, and the game already struggles with performance on those with more and more things getting added to the files, which are added to everyone's files, not just those that opt in/out to a setting.

There are many other avenues they can take for improving accessibility, or restoring accessibility by unnerfing gameplay styles like AOE with lightning staves HA on each damage tick just because it was able to be used too well by people in arenas while they had a new AOE-heavy low APM class in development, or other settings that do not require substituting NPC models/sounds/animations/names, not to mention all of the furnishings and scenery, it's a monumental task, far more than other fixes.

SilverBride

Elsonso wrote: »

I actually hate Clannfear more, just because of the 'assault' that they do when they jump. I never even noticed it until someone mentioned what that looks like in the forum, and now I can't unsee it.

Was this it?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/653834/i-hate-clannfear/p1

Benzux

While I was reading through this thread, another phobia came into my mind due to some very specific scenes in certain parts of ESO - Thalassophobia. The Graven Deep dungeon has a section where you have to walk on the ocean floor, and so does the prequel quest for Gold Road. For a particularly severe case, even the Abyssal Geysers on Summerset might trigger it (or even just looking out into the Eltheric Ocean from its shores). While obviously not as widespread as spiders are, these are still pretty "significant" portions of the game locked away for those who can't handle the idea of vast bodies of water.

Personally, while I wouldn't mind more accessibility settings for people who need them, I am of the opinion that something like this shouldn't be a priority for the developers, for several reasons that have already been stated in this thread. Where does the line get drawn, should the aforementioned underwater sections also get changed to cater to people with thalassophobia? Is it even "worth" it to designate developing time and resources for things that only affect a portion of an already small percentage of players? Are these solutions even possible to implement in ESO, whose underlying code and servers are at this point probably held together with duct tape and hope? Personally, I don't think something as big as an arachnophobia mode for a game as massive as ESO is even possible to create, even if there was significant desire to do so from the developers.

People have made do for 10 years, they can probably make do for another 10 while the devs focus on more pressing matters.

Syldras

SilverBride wrote: »

Was this it?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/653834/i-hate-clannfear/p1

I always thought it aims for the liver. Liver seems to be tasty, after all.

SilverBride

Has anyone with true arachnophobia even replied to this thread? Not just players with a fear of spiders, which is pretty common, but rather actual panic attacks at the mere sight of a spider, real or pixilated?

TaSheen

Not AFAIK, but I haven't really read in depth here....

I'm fine if they put in *....phobia* toggles. People should be comfortable when they're playing something they expect to be a fun stress-relieving experience. I don't have any experience to add from my own perspective though; I have no phobias, and actually I'm not really afraid of anything....

vsrs_au

SilverBride wrote: »

Has anyone with true arachnophobia even replied to this thread? Not just players with a fear of spiders, which is pretty common, but rather actual panic attacks at the mere sight of a spider, real or pixilated?

Yes, I did.

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

Has anyone with true arachnophobia even replied to this thread? Not just players with a fear of spiders, which is pretty common, but rather actual panic attacks at the mere sight of a spider, real or pixilated?

I mean, my fear is no longer at the 'panic attack' stage, but yes, I used to have panic attacks at the sight of a spider, even if it were just an image. I remember a while ago playing ultima underworld the stygian abyss and hating that one section that had a lot of twisty turns and it was populated with spiders, and they would pop out at me. Not fun times.

SilverBride

vsrs_au wrote: »

Spiders (except for the really small ones) give me the screaming heebie jeebies, but the Elder Scrolls (offline or online) ones don't, because my brain is smart enough to realise they're fake.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I mean, my fear is no longer at the 'panic attack' stage, but yes, I used to have panic attacks at the sight of a spider, even if it were just an image.

But has anyone that is currently having symptoms of arachnophobia with spiders in game replied to this thread?

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Spiders (except for the really small ones) give me the screaming heebie jeebies, but the Elder Scrolls (offline or online) ones don't, because my brain is smart enough to realise they're fake.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I mean, my fear is no longer at the 'panic attack' stage, but yes, I used to have panic attacks at the sight of a spider, even if it were just an image.

But has anyone that is currently having symptoms of arachnophobia with spiders in game replied to this thread?

Genuine question. Why does the fear have to be at 'panic attack' level?

SilverBride

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Spiders (except for the really small ones) give me the screaming heebie jeebies, but the Elder Scrolls (offline or online) ones don't, because my brain is smart enough to realise they're fake.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I mean, my fear is no longer at the 'panic attack' stage, but yes, I used to have panic attacks at the sight of a spider, even if it were just an image.

But has anyone that is currently having symptoms of arachnophobia with spiders in game replied to this thread?

Genuine question. Why does the fear have to be at 'panic attack' level?

It doesn't have to be but often is. That is one of the signs of a phobia versus just a fear.

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

vsrs_au wrote: »

Spiders (except for the really small ones) give me the screaming heebie jeebies, but the Elder Scrolls (offline or online) ones don't, because my brain is smart enough to realise they're fake.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I mean, my fear is no longer at the 'panic attack' stage, but yes, I used to have panic attacks at the sight of a spider, even if it were just an image.

But has anyone that is currently having symptoms of arachnophobia with spiders in game replied to this thread?

Genuine question. Why does the fear have to be at 'panic attack' level?

It doesn't have to be but often is. That is one of the signs of a phobia versus just a fear.

But a phobia doesn't have to raise to the level of panic attacks. Yes, they *can* lead to panic attacks, but they don't *have* in order to be considered a phobia.

SilverBride

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

But a phobia doesn't have to raise to the level of panic attacks. Yes, they *can* lead to panic attacks, but they don't *have* in order to be considered a phobia.

What I'm trying to determine is if there are any players that are so negatively affected by spiders in game that it is causing them acute distress when playing, or even preventing them from playing at all. But in the 6 pages of this thread so far I have yet to see anyone relate any negative experience related to spiders in game.

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

But a phobia doesn't have to raise to the level of panic attacks. Yes, they *can* lead to panic attacks, but they don't *have* in order to be considered a phobia.

What I'm trying to determine is if there are any players that are so negatively affected by spiders in game that it is causing them acute distress when playing, or even preventing them from playing at all. But in the 6 pages of this thread so far I have yet to see anyone relate any negative experience related to spiders in game.

That could be because they either A) don't frequent the forums, or stopped playing altogether with the idea that there won't be any way to change out spiders.

Also, I mean, I do consider that I won't go into certain dungeons because of the spiders in them and that I can't look directly at the spiders to be a negative experience. It isn't a panic, because I have figured out how to deal with it, but it still does affect me personally.

sleepy_worm

SilverBride wrote: »

What I'm trying to determine is if there are any players that are so negatively affected by spiders in game that it is causing them acute distress when playing, or even preventing them from playing at all. But in the 6 pages of this thread so far I have yet to see anyone relate any negative experience related to spiders in game.

I have had at least three people in my guild who are negatively affected by in-game visuals of spiders and have feelings of panic or anxiety when encountering them. I run events for my guild and try to let everyone know ahead of time which parts have spiders.

Rest assured, these people exist.

SilverBride

ESO has been around for 10 years now and had spiders the entire time. It seems to me that if this was really a major problem for a lot of players it would have come up way before now.

SilverBride

sleepy_worm wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

What I'm trying to determine is if there are any players that are so negatively affected by spiders in game that it is causing them acute distress when playing, or even preventing them from playing at all. But in the 6 pages of this thread so far I have yet to see anyone relate any negative experience related to spiders in game.

I have had at least three people in my guild who are negatively affected by in-game visuals of spiders and have feelings of panic or anxiety when encountering them. I run events for my guild and try to let everyone know ahead of time which parts have spiders.

Rest assured, these people exist.

None of them are posting about it here.

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

ESO has been around for 10 years now and had spiders the entire time. It seems to me that if this was really a major problem for a lot of players it would have come up way before now.

Why would people have come forward? After all, even on this thread, we have replies dismissing any fears of the spiders because the spiders are fictional, or have a reply or two that if a person is that negatively affected, they should just not play the game.

Those types of replies aren't just confined to ESO, I have played other games where people have brought up the idea of filters to help with various phobias, and those same sentiments are brought up there as well.

In some cases, people were afraid to talk about such fears, because it wasn't uncommon to have people post images of the very things they said they were afraid of on the thread in response. As I pointed out earlier, it wasn't too long ago that many 'pranks' centered around throwing spiders, usually fake, but not always, on people who claimed to be arachnophobic just to see the person react.

It is only in the last few years that developers have started adding arachnophobia modes and people in general started taking them seriously, so maybe the reason we see this *now* is because people feel *comfortable* coming forward with the idea that 'hey, I would really love it if I could play the game without having spiders jump out at me!'

SilverBride

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

It is only in the last few years that developers have started adding arachnophobia modes and people in general started taking them seriously, so maybe the reason we see this *now* is because people feel *comfortable* coming forward with the idea that 'hey, I would really love it if I could play the game without having spiders jump out at me!'

I've never once heard of this in any MMO in all the decades that I have been gaming. If players are now more comfortable coming forward with this idea then where are they? They certainly aren't making their needs known in this thread.

JemadarofCaerSalis

SilverBride wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

It is only in the last few years that developers have started adding arachnophobia modes and people in general started taking them seriously, so maybe the reason we see this *now* is because people feel *comfortable* coming forward with the idea that 'hey, I would really love it if I could play the game without having spiders jump out at me!'

I've never once heard of this in any MMO in all the decades that I have been gaming. If players are now more comfortable coming forward with this idea then where are they? They certainly aren't making their needs known in this thread.

Again, many may have just given up, or stopped playing altogether. Or, they simply don't come to the forums.

Just because you personally haven't seen it, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. I can't speak for MMOs, because ESO is the first one I have played, but I know that there have been people who have wanted to change out spiders in other games, even TES games. Those are easier to do because you can just mod the spiders out and replace them with a different model, so they might not have gotten any posts on forums about it.

Someone else pointed out two threads about arachnophobia and ESO earlier, though I forgot to go check them out, so even ESO has had people bring up the issue in the past.

Edit: Can't find the links, they may have been removed, but I did see at least one person who says that ESO spiders trigger their anxiety and they avoid places such as that one place in Auridon, where they know spiders will be. So at least one person has come forward and said that their phobia is being triggered by the spiders in game.

spartaxoxo

In addition to the people who did say they have arachnophobia in this thread...

Here are some examples of threads and posts from the past just searching the forums for the term.

Hello, inhabitants of Tamriel!

The new.... Chapter. I know Spiders are a part of the lore and whatnot - which is fine, but for someone (me) that's pretty.. challenging. By now I haven't done any of the areas that contains spiders, I've always had a friend / guildie come and kill every spider for me. Hihihihih.

So, I was wondering, is there a chance someone can make an Add-On / Or Devs can make a toggle-filter, that spawns black squares(or whatever non-spider-thing) when there's a monster with the shape of a Spider, or with the "Spider" in it's name?
It would sure help me out a lot \o/

I honestly don't care if I end up with 50 black squares on my screen. I just can't stand watching spiders..

This one is about wasps but the user also was able to overcome arachnophobia but not the wasps.

How can wasp NPC's force you to take a 2-year hiatus? I'll tell you.

Even though I'm legally an adult now (18 years of age), ever since I was young, I've been afraid of insects. I also had, until recently, a small bout of arachnophobia.

Over my teenage years, I've shaked off ladybugs, flies, and my arachnophobia. But I am still afraid of bees and wasps.

And unfortunately, every time I am forced to fight a wasp, the noises it makes sounds like a real wasp buzzing in my ear. This unfortunately triggers my phobia of stinging insects.

As a result, I have grown afraid of venturing into Betnikh, Deshaan, or other areas where wasp monsters are common, just because I fear of triggering my phobia.

And unfortunately, this is why I have never been able to get the Hero of the Covenant/Pact/Dominion achievements, and probably never will.

I'm not looking for any type of sympathy. I'm just posting this to try and get some weight off my back and hopefully go to college class today with a better attitude than I am currently.

Anyway, I'm off. See you all later.

It is possible to get the indrik deleted, if you actually mean that. A few years ago I got a spider pet from a free crown crate and as I'm arachnophobic I couldn't stand even having it unused in my collections menu so I contacted Support and they deleted it. I'm sure they could do the same for your indrik.

Although I'm not sure how it could have been forced on you. There's a multi-step process you have to go through to get one, including buying at least 4 seperate items from an NPC and then using them to create the mount. i can't imagine it's something anyone could do by accident, and if you didn't want it all you needed to do was...nothing. Skip any step in that process and you wouldn't be stuck with an indrik now.

But like I said if you don't want it support will delete it.

Edit: removed links/edited out identifying information.

JemadarofCaerSalis

Okay, went through with a simple search 'arachnophobia' on the forums, and while I am not going to link, here is what I found:

In October of 2018, someone said they were worried about getting another spider pet from the crates that were available then and having to contact staff to have it removed.

In April of 2020, there was a poll about which enemies scared you, and 14 people said spiders. It was 8% of the people who responded, and 39% said they weren't afraid of any, another 32% said 'Other' which could mean anything, including being afraid of some part of the spiders or specific spiders (at least one person said the sound of the WB spiders scared them, though they weren't arachnophobic in RL), and another 10% gave a of 'Post creator, are you insane'.

In 2018, about being excited for summerset, someone said no, because they expected it to be filled with spiders.

Another 2018 post had someone saying that their arachnophobia is triggered by the ESO spiders.

In 2017, someone replied about hating any dungeon with spiders due to arachnophobia

There is another thread about Arachnophobia and ESO, which has the typical responses of 'get therapy' and from the sound of it, included people who posted pictures of spiders or spider like things, and seems like someone was mentioning something about a spider legged nix ox/hound mount and chasing the OP of that thread down. So, maybe there is a reason people are leery about coming forward and talking about their arachnophobia?

LunaFlora

SilverBride wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

But a phobia doesn't have to raise to the level of panic attacks. Yes, they *can* lead to panic attacks, but they don't *have* in order to be considered a phobia.

What I'm trying to determine is if there are any players that are so negatively affected by spiders in game that it is causing them acute distress when playing, or even preventing them from playing at all. But in the 6 pages of this thread so far I have yet to see anyone relate any negative experience related to spiders in game.

i have multiple comments in this thread. i do have negative experiences with video game spiders.

but i also don't particularly want to comment more in this thread due to it being filled with people against more accessibility.


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8173916#Comment_8173916


my previous comment, which got 2 "awesome" reactions why? i guess some people think it's awesome when some things in games can trigger anxiety.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8173920#Comment_8173920

LunaFlora wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

As an arachnophobe I wonder if ESO's spiders actually ever triggered anyone's phobia for real or that's just a wish for some mythical "others who need it"? Same with WoW spiders, how on earth even. I mean causing issues with breathing, uncontrolled movement and not just "Ew, a thingy".

yes they have for me.
it's not a wish for hypothetical people.

the spiders in eso look realistic enough to me to be able to trigger anxiety.
The sounds and how some of the spiders like in Spindleclutch fall or drop down from the ceiling are especially bad for my brain.
Entila's Folly in Auridon is also a place i avoid because of the spiders.

though sadly i can't avoid Spindleclutch if i queue for random dungeons.
another problem with Spindle is that it has a lot of flashes for both of the Spider bosses so i can hardly participate in those fights.

i hardly ever go to random dungeons due to dungeons like Spindleclutch, but that's not just due to spiders. i already turn the volume down or off so i at least don't hear the spiders, but i can't also turn off flashes or hide the spiders.

if possible i avoid places with spiders, same with places with flashing that i can't anticipate.



Most posts for accessibility get negative reactions.
this obviously makes people less likely to comment on it if they do want it.

i try to comment if i see these posts to express support and mention if i personally would benefit from it.
but i don't always because im very familiar with negative reactions like we see in this thread.


i hope zos continues improving accessibility in ESO and if that eventually includes spider toggles that's nice.
And just like the other accessibility settings it would be for people who choose to use it.

opalcity

The Lethal Company Arachnophobia mode is awesome.