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This pushing people into PVP is WRONG
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FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.PC
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.Edited by spartaxoxo on August 5, 2024 2:50AM0 -
TheMajority✭✭✭✭✭TheMajority wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »And what a great event when so many players simply stand on the platform in IC/Arena to earn a ticket.
Yeah, that is compelling play, right?
They are doing it because they don't want compelling play as they aren't interested in PvP. If they dropped down, they'd find plenty. It's just not their cup of tea ☕
Except this isn't true for a lot of people. There are people who sit on the platforms in Imperial city and spam snipe/heavy attack or ranged ultimates like Meteor the entire time from safety and you can't press them back because it's a respawn area.
It's ludicrous that people can just sit up in respawn, attack you, and never risk being harmed back unless you roll as a ranged spec
most of these people are actually pve sitting up there getting "revenge" from a distance, this don't really happen outside of mayhem event. pve do a lot of stuff actual pvp player don't spend their time doing, cause mostly IC is empty without mayhem
a lot of the behaviors complained about in this thread aren't the doing of pvp players, they're the doings of pve players
like some of the most annoying getting killed is from groups of pve, not even from pvp players.
It does happen with pvp players, that is a lie.
If you've ever gone to a battleground, that same behavior occurs where the respawn area is a safe haven for ranged snipers to snipe you while not being able to be challenged. Because the sanctuary buff doesn't cover the entire respawn area there's always trolls PVP and PVE who ranged snipe and refuse to join the pvp area.
I say what I see and I see pve doing it low ranks low hp bars, it's not a lie. i said "MOST" of these people which mean SOME pvp do it but it is MOSTLY pve
dont go to battlegrounds and never said it didn't happen in battlegrounds so don't accuse me of stuff I never even said im talking about imperial city
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Sorry for my English, I do not always have a translation tool available. Thank you for your patience with our conversation and working towards our mutual understanding of the topic.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Twice since I started playing this game, my workload during a mayhem event has prevented me from participating for most of the duration of the event. For the days I was not able to play, I did the PvE-style dailies for quick tickets.
Never once did I get into combat with anything other than an NPC. It is not that difficult. Go to a low pop campaign, and be careful.
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silentxthreat✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »silentxthreat wrote: »the be fair as a pvp player that doesnt enjoy anything else in the game I feel the same way about being forced to do your favorite content as well. now for the tips. play your nightblade and perma cloak your quests
I have absolutely no problem with PvP players getting even more rewards, but the tickets should not be locked behind PvP (or almost effectively so). Give doubled Tel Var and AP by all means, along with extra boxes and such for quests in PvP areas.
I am not sure how allowing those who suck at PvP to stay out of it would lessen what you would get out of the event. Can you clarify that point?
its the one time i can actually get tickets for doing pvp compared to needing to go to pve land. we get one time per year its not much to ask0 -
FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)Edited by FlopsyPrince on August 5, 2024 8:59AMPC
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FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭silentxthreat wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »silentxthreat wrote: »the be fair as a pvp player that doesnt enjoy anything else in the game I feel the same way about being forced to do your favorite content as well. now for the tips. play your nightblade and perma cloak your quests
I have absolutely no problem with PvP players getting even more rewards, but the tickets should not be locked behind PvP (or almost effectively so). Give doubled Tel Var and AP by all means, along with extra boxes and such for quests in PvP areas.
I am not sure how allowing those who suck at PvP to stay out of it would lessen what you would get out of the event. Can you clarify that point?
its the one time i can actually get tickets for doing pvp compared to needing to go to pve land. we get one time per year its not much to ask
It is twice a year.
But how would letting others get it a different way harm your "fun" here?PC
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FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Twice since I started playing this game, my workload during a mayhem event has prevented me from participating for most of the duration of the event. For the days I was not able to play, I did the PvE-style dailies for quick tickets.
Never once did I get into combat with anything other than an NPC. It is not that difficult. Go to a low pop campaign, and be careful.
And hope you have one with your faction controlling one of those areas. That is definitely not always the case!PC
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.2 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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Ingenon✭✭✭✭✭
✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »You can't sneak through most of the IC quests.
The dying option can help you "beam" to someplace within Cyrodiil not connected to your faction's base. Beaming in and out doesn't help with that.
This is only useful when you want to go to a place your faction controls that is not connected to the base. Your method works to get back to the base, unless the campaign has a queue.
I am only doing Mayhem for the event tickets. I am on a Speedy G. build, and I sneak run through IC quests except when I am sneak attacking the NPC that I have to kill for the district quest.
My method works for me to get tickets quickly. Most days enemy players do not see me, or at least no other players attack me. And I'm not attacking other players, because the quests I am doing don't require it.
So far, I have not done any campaign queues. I deliberately pick empty campaigns. Less players in the campaign usually means less time for me getting event tickets.0 -
Four_Fingers✭✭✭✭✭
✭Four_Fingers wrote: »Dying to guards at a resource is the best way to "Blood Port" and still works just fine to any keep or gate owned by your alliance and not under attack.
Beats a long ride back, and I don't feel a thing!
Dying to "environmental" things like slaughter fish, fall damage, regular npc you can only respawn at the spot or your main gate wayshrine.
Why die to anything when you can queue for Imperial City, and get out of Cyrodiil in seconds? Once in Imperial City, you can queue for Cyrodiil, and you will be back at your faction base to turn in your scouting quest. No death, no long ride.
And I queue for Cyrodiil when I finish an Imperial City daily district quest. Just crouch into sneak, click for a campaign, and gone in seconds. And then queue for Imperial City, and turn in the quest.
Or you could spend AP and buy keep recall stones to use in Cyrodiil, but I have never done that.
Because blood porting is faster and dying doesn't hurt a bit. lol0 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »silentxthreat wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »silentxthreat wrote: »the be fair as a pvp player that doesnt enjoy anything else in the game I feel the same way about being forced to do your favorite content as well. now for the tips. play your nightblade and perma cloak your quests
I have absolutely no problem with PvP players getting even more rewards, but the tickets should not be locked behind PvP (or almost effectively so). Give doubled Tel Var and AP by all means, along with extra boxes and such for quests in PvP areas.
I am not sure how allowing those who suck at PvP to stay out of it would lessen what you would get out of the event. Can you clarify that point?
its the one time i can actually get tickets for doing pvp compared to needing to go to pve land. we get one time per year its not much to ask
It is twice a year.
But how would letting others get it a different way harm your "fun" here?
It's not about harming "the fun." It's about attracting players into PvP areas, to get them to try PvP. If it wasn't for a Whitestrakes that got me hooked on Cyro PvP, I would have quit ESO a long long time ago. Many others have experienced a similar spark of interest in Cyro thanks to a Whitestrakes.5 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvPEdited by spartaxoxo on August 5, 2024 8:58PM0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
PC NA, PC EU (non steam)- four accounts, many alts....1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.
Ah. Okay. Well that's good. Hope it works out for you.0 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.
Ah. Okay. Well that's good. Hope it works out for you.
It will, unless I'm so ill for 3 weeks again in Q1 next year (which was why I didn't get the Dawnwood THIS year). The Onyx is only on my newest account, both PC NA and EU, and I've got it figured out pretty closely....______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.
Ah. Okay. Well that's good. Hope it works out for you.
It will, unless I'm so ill for 3 weeks again in Q1 next year (which was why I didn't get the Dawnwood THIS year). The Onyx is only on my newest account, both PC NA and EU, and I've got it figured out pretty closely....
Oof. That sucks you missed out. Did you try putting in a ticket about it? They don't give out stuff as policy but I know in the past they've made exceptions sometimes.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭After months and years of doing the IC district daily quests, I've found the daily for the Memorial District to be one of the quickest, although it isn't always one of the easiest (but sometimes it is).
Grab the quest, then kill the two Xivkyns closest to your faction's entry platform. You can probably see their locations from the platform-- at least, you can from DC's platform; I don't know about the other factions' platforms. If they're already dead, you'll probably want to wait up on the platform until they respawn, but I just ride to other Xivkyns whose locations I know about.
After you've killed two Xivkyns, mount up, ride to the central section of the zone, and ride around in a circle, slowing down by each skeleton to hit E before speeding up and riding to the next skeleton. If you miss one, just keep riding in a circle and try again until you're able to get all four skeletons.
My advice is to start with the skeleton that doesn't have any Daedra beside it, because if you start with one that has Daedra beside it then you might draw their attention and they'll attack you, slowing you down or even dismounting you. If the Daedra do start to chase you, just keep riding in a circle and eventually they should lose interest, plus when you ride back around to where they were they will probably be chasing you, leaving that skeleton unwatched so it should be easier to activate.
If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
If there are enemy players and you get killed, you shouldn't have very much TV to lose from killing two Xivkyns. Once you rez, go to the bank to deposit what little TV you've got left, then go back to the district to complete the quest. You won't earn any additional TV by simply riding around to the four skeletons, so if you get killed again, you won't be losing any TV at all, hence you can just keep rezzing and returning as many times as necessary without losing any TV.
I can usually complete this quest within 5 minutes, even when there are enemy players in the district. Obviously, it will help if you have the passive ability that lets you ride past mobs without drawing their attention.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
TaSheen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.
Ah. Okay. Well that's good. Hope it works out for you.
It will, unless I'm so ill for 3 weeks again in Q1 next year (which was why I didn't get the Dawnwood THIS year). The Onyx is only on my newest account, both PC NA and EU, and I've got it figured out pretty closely....
Oof. That sucks you missed out. Did you try putting in a ticket about it? They don't give out stuff as policy but I know in the past they've made exceptions sometimes.
I thought about it, but I know they kind of quit doing that years back now, and it's not like I can't wait until next year! I've got other indriks on those accounts, so no biggie really. I was barely able to log in for the daily reward without being so dizzy I'd fall out of my chair, so that's all I did. I haven't been that sick in a couple of decades - and I'd REALLY like to never have to deal with that again!
And it was missing out 20 tickets on two accounts both PC megaservers - which was more money for crowns than I wanted to spend right then, having just had my daughter build me a new machine (more than I should have spent - $1600 including almost $100 for shipping it from where she lives 3k miles away to here). It's a hell of a nice machine though.... MUCH better than the one it replaced (which I got 9 years out of....)Edited by TaSheen on August 5, 2024 9:22PM______________________________________________________
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✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
FYI, you can exit IC by going inside the dungeon on this map. Imperial City Prison IIRC. And then just queue back up to IMP City to turn in. If you have the assistant, you can bank while in the dungeon. If not, you'll be going back to IC base anyway where there is one.
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That's true but you can also just stand on a platform, with little to no risk of death, and afk kill some mobs. You don't need to fight other players to get tickets. There are PvE quests with very low risk of death. I haven't died once this year doing the IC daily.
People can also get their coin up and buy tickets from another player. Or spend real money.
There are are 5 ways to get enough tickets for a PvE player to get this year's morphs
Easy PvE Quest
Wait For New Life
Buy with coin from another player
Buy with cash
Actually PvP
I posted that from the POV of the OP - I don't need to do pvp to get the Onyx indrik this quarter, or Q1 2025's Dawnwood one. If I run a few tickets short I'm perfectly happy to buy them with crowns.
Ah. Okay. Well that's good. Hope it works out for you.
It will, unless I'm so ill for 3 weeks again in Q1 next year (which was why I didn't get the Dawnwood THIS year). The Onyx is only on my newest account, both PC NA and EU, and I've got it figured out pretty closely....
Oof. That sucks you missed out. Did you try putting in a ticket about it? They don't give out stuff as policy but I know in the past they've made exceptions sometimes.
I thought about it, but I know they kind of quit doing that years back now, and it's not like I can't wait until next year! I've got other indriks on those accounts, so no biggie really. I was barely able to log in for the daily reward without being so dizzy I'd fall out of my chair, so that's all I did. I haven't been that sick in a couple of decades - and I'd REALLY like to never have to deal with that again!
And it was missing out 20 tickets on two accounts both PC megaservers - which was more money for crowns than I wanted to spend right then, having just had my daughter build me a new machine (more than I should have spent - $1600 including almost $100 for shipping it from where she lives 3k miles away to here). It's a hell of a nice machine though.... MUCH better than the one it replaced (which I got 9 years out of....)
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
FYI, you can exit IC by going inside the dungeon on this map. Imperial City Prison IIRC.
That's right, I learned this by going into the dungeon to use those free keys to open the chest. When you leave the dungeon, you get sent back to wherever you were when you had queued for IC and/or Cyrodiil.
The only catch is that sometimes you get attacked by Daedra or enemy players before you can fully interact with the entrance to the dungeon.
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✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
FYI, you can exit IC by going inside the dungeon on this map. Imperial City Prison IIRC.
That's right, I learned this by going into the dungeon to use those free keys to open the chest. When you leave the dungeon, you get sent back to wherever you were when you had queued for IC and/or Cyrodiil.
The only catch is that sometimes you get attacked by Daedra or enemy players before you can fully interact with the entrance to the dungeon.
True. But if I'm doing Memorial quest daily instead, I don't have much Tel-Var to lose. So dying just saves me a loading screen. If you get attacked by Daedra and not killed, free extra Tel-Var.Edited by spartaxoxo on August 5, 2024 10:26PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
FYI, you can exit IC by going inside the dungeon on this map. Imperial City Prison IIRC.
That's right, I learned this by going into the dungeon to use those free keys to open the chest. When you leave the dungeon, you get sent back to wherever you were when you had queued for IC and/or Cyrodiil.
The only catch is that sometimes you get attacked by Daedra or enemy players before you can fully interact with the entrance to the dungeon.
True. But if I'm doing Memorial quest daily instead, I don't have much Tel-Var to lose. So dying just saves me a loading screen. If you get attacked by Daedra and not killed, free extra Tel-Var.
D'oh! True, that.
I sometimes forget about blood ports. The other night I was riding furiously across Cyrodiil to reach Cropsford to complete a quest there for a daily endeavor before the daily server reset. As I rode through the Chalman Milegate, an enemy player shot me with a bow and took a huge chunk of my health via poison damage. I kept riding furiously, and the enemy player shot me a second time. I was close to dying or being dismounted, but I kept riding and eventually made it to Cropsford.
But the dumb thing was, Cropsford was controlled by my faction at the time, and although it wasn't reachable from base via the Transitus Network, I could have selected it as my respawn location if I'd been killed trying to get there, thus saving me a few minutes of riding time!
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✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »If you're lucky, you can get all four skeletons in one circuit. Then just ride to the nearest exit-- preferably one that leads to a safe balcony-- and make your escape.
FYI, you can exit IC by going inside the dungeon on this map. Imperial City Prison IIRC.
That's right, I learned this by going into the dungeon to use those free keys to open the chest. When you leave the dungeon, you get sent back to wherever you were when you had queued for IC and/or Cyrodiil.
The only catch is that sometimes you get attacked by Daedra or enemy players before you can fully interact with the entrance to the dungeon.
True. But if I'm doing Memorial quest daily instead, I don't have much Tel-Var to lose. So dying just saves me a loading screen. If you get attacked by Daedra and not killed, free extra Tel-Var.
D'oh! True, that.
I sometimes forget about blood ports. The other night I was riding furiously across Cyrodiil to reach Cropsford to complete a quest there for a daily endeavor before the daily server reset. As I rode through the Chalman Milegate, an enemy player shot me with a bow and took a huge chunk of my health via poison damage. I kept riding furiously, and the enemy player shot me a second time. I was close to dying or being dismounted, but I kept riding and eventually made it to Cropsford.
But the dumb thing was, Cropsford was controlled by my faction at the time, and although it wasn't reachable from base via the Transitus Network, I could have selected it as my respawn location if I'd been killed trying to get there, thus saving me a few minutes of riding time!
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✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »One other question this raises that I have not seen addressed is how getting the tickets easier would ruin the event for anyone else.
The only reason someone might not reasonably like that would be because they want to have PvEers to easily kill. I haven't seen more than a few argue that, so it makes me wonder.
Standing on a platform and pressing heavy attack is already extremely easy. And that one doesn't take population out of the PvP zones. PvErs are easy to kill. But some of them show promise, enjoy themselves, come back with better builds, and end up PvPers. Why shouldn't PvPers want a healthy population with events to attract new membership?
New Life is a catch-up event. If you hate PvP so much, skip it and catch up at New Life.
You can easily die even standing on the platform doing that. Some players seem to love hitting those standing on platforms. Ironically you may not be able to shoot back down when you get hit by a nasty DOT. Ironically running into the "safe" area may end up killing you then since healing is disabled (stupidly) in there.
You can't catch up with event tickets on any event, assuming you still have something useful. I have a long ways to go to get the indiriks on my PC account since I started when that was wrapping up. (Switching from PS4 to PC.)
New Life Event gives way more tickets than normal, can easily miss a event and catch up during it.
It doesn't help if the indrik you want is in some other quarter....
That hit me. I had a few wasted tickets IIRC. I bought all I could, but still missed some.
However this doesn't negate the point that tickets during events should be trivial to get.PC
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't personally think that, sorry.______________________________________________________
"But even in books, the heroes make mistakes, and there isn't always a happy ending." Mercedes Lackey, Into the West
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