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Everyone is upset about ink and....
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Kappachi✭✭✭✭Rare drops keep the chase going, if everything was made so easy to get with guaranteed methods that took no effort there'd be no economy... Yes, for you the 500 ink achievement might take months or years because of poor RNG, for someone else they're having trouble finding a specific motif from a dungeon or something like that.... ruin the equilibrium and you'll have a real bad economy for the game.1 -
Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rare drops keep the chase going, if everything was made so easy to get with guaranteed methods that took no effort there'd be no economy... Yes, for you the 500 ink achievement might take months or years because of poor RNG, for someone else they're having trouble finding a specific motif from a dungeon or something like that.... ruin the equilibrium and you'll have a real bad economy for the game.
making 1 item easier to get wont ruin the entire market economy
it feels like your literally just telling me "buy my ink because im rolling in it and you have to suffer so i can keep making money"
making ink drop in reasonable quantities makes the scribing system useable for everyone, and for those who put in the effort could sell extra inks
the entire system was put in and touted to be a system to experiment and play with, nobody can do that without ink
imagine if this was the antiquity system being launched, but in order to scry or dig up things, you had to also get consumable items as drops to use your extra tools and these drops were rarer than nirncrux
then imagine that you were unable to get these drops even with many many hours of farming, would you just give up on the system at that point? or would you feel forced to spend insane quantities of gold buying stuff from other players to use the system?
its poor design with the drop rate as bad as it is pure and simple and it needs to be changedplays PC/NA
handle @Necrotech_Master
active player since april 2014
i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
feel free to stop by and use the facilities12 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭So from my own experience, and from what others have said: If you spend all of your time running around picking flowers then you will have plenty of Ink. But if you spend all of your time in Dungeons, Trials, Arenas, PVP, etc. then you will not hardly ever see any Ink and will not be able to get much use out of the new scribing system.
This is just backwards... Why would someone who spends all of their time picking flowers even need to use any scribed skills...
They need to drastically increase the drop chance of Ink from mobs and put it in other sources as well. Because not everyone wants to run around picking flowers when there are better things to do in the game.
I paid $40 for The Gold Road. But all I've got out of it is a Zone DLC and a new system that I can't really use because Ink is too dang scarce.12 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭oldbobdude wrote: »
Nice. I have a quarter of that.
I was just at the scribing altar trying to adjust the Trample skill I scribed earlier, as it wasn't working as I'd anticipated ... and oh, would you look at that!
No more ink. Welp, guess it's time to waste another hour or two (or longer) of my life hunting for a single, solitary luminous ink. Such a great situation to find myself in, it's "FINEEEE"Edited by Aurielle on July 12, 2024 11:58PM11 -
shadyjane62✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Scribing was the selling point in the chapter for me. There is almost nothing else in West Weald that is not ordinary and quite a bit that is frustrating.
I have loads of ink because I am not ashamed to haunt the beginner areas.
I just find that scribing is not all that it was hyped to be.3 -
Elvenheart✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS stated how they intended players to be excited when they got scripts, to go back and try them out. It's hard to try anything out when you don't even get enough ink to make the skill in the first place. I'm sitting on 8 ink right now because every time I make a skill I have buyer's remorse, depending on how the skill feels, and if the skill turns out well I don't want to experiment with it at all because it'll take ink to test something new, and more ink to return to what I had before.
The system is supposed to be about experimentation and creativity, but both are snuffed out when you are so heavily restricted on that resource. It has effectively killed many players interest in the system, and if I hadn't gone online to look up the ideal combos for the skills I wanted to use, and farmed all of their scripts before crafting it, I would have as well. Instead, I have the bare minimum of what I would want out of the system, and zero interest in the rest, too expensive, and I'm not going to give ZOS good metrics by farming resources or opening every urn in every dungeon to get what little ink RNG decided to hand out.
This.
It’s like all the naysayers who thing the ink drop rate is fine as is just ignore anyone who points this out.
They said in the presentation that they can’t wait to see what all the players do with scribing, all the wonderful combinations we come up with. Well, it seems like they’re going to have to wait a long time for some of us to come up with those combinations they want to see!Edited by Elvenheart on July 13, 2024 1:57AM8 -
I feel like people forget you can do the scribing quests all the way through on every character for 12 ink in a couple hours...
If you're out of ink, it doesn't take long to get more until you run out of alts. 12 ink for 2 hours of gameplay guaranteed isn't bad for your first 240 ink...
Edit:
Of course, when I say 2 hours I mean rushing on a character with all the wayshrines. YMMVEdited by ragnarok6644b14_ESO on July 13, 2024 3:19AM1 -
Ishtarknows✭✭✭✭✭A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it0
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SkaiFaith✭✭✭✭✭
✭Scribing makes PVP P2Win. Shouldn't be allowed in PVP.
Honestly I think Scribing should've been a base game update as it literally changes how existing skill lines work. 🤔
I could understand the Expansion being about like Alternate Skill Animations, Alternate Skill Colors, Alternate Skins for Class Pets and all that jazz (all of which have been requested numerous times over the years), but when it changes how the base skills work there's definitely an unfair advantage cropping up. I mean the newer Classes (like Warden/Necro/Arcanist) and added skill lines (like Psijic and Antiquities for Mythics) have already been skirting P2W for the longest time now, but to full on change how basic core skills work (that have been in the game available to everyone for the last decade) and still lock it behind a paywall is really climbing over the edge in my opinion. 🤷♀️
*Edited to add: /rant
Lawl
About the pay-to-win nature... Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't the scribing quest line send you to a lot of DLC locations?
I mean... You can't even just buy Gold Road and hope to be able to complete the quest line, if you don't own other DLCs too or you are not subscribed to ESOPlus.
Surprised no one commented on this yet.A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"1 -
EF321✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_81398551 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Scribing makes PVP P2Win. Shouldn't be allowed in PVP.
Honestly I think Scribing should've been a base game update as it literally changes how existing skill lines work. 🤔
I could understand the Expansion being about like Alternate Skill Animations, Alternate Skill Colors, Alternate Skins for Class Pets and all that jazz (all of which have been requested numerous times over the years), but when it changes how the base skills work there's definitely an unfair advantage cropping up. I mean the newer Classes (like Warden/Necro/Arcanist) and added skill lines (like Psijic and Antiquities for Mythics) have already been skirting P2W for the longest time now, but to full on change how basic core skills work (that have been in the game available to everyone for the last decade) and still lock it behind a paywall is really climbing over the edge in my opinion. 🤷♀️
*Edited to add: /rant
Lawl
About the pay-to-win nature... Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't the scribing quest line send you to a lot of DLC locations?
I mean... You can't even just buy Gold Road and hope to be able to complete the quest line, if you don't own other DLCs too or you are not subscribed to ESOPlus.
Surprised no one commented on this yet.
You don't need the DLCs to visit the mini areas of the quest. They're all enclosed and none require purchases beyond base game and Gold Road.2 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.2 -
SkaiFaith✭✭✭✭✭
✭Scribing makes PVP P2Win. Shouldn't be allowed in PVP.
Honestly I think Scribing should've been a base game update as it literally changes how existing skill lines work. 🤔
I could understand the Expansion being about like Alternate Skill Animations, Alternate Skill Colors, Alternate Skins for Class Pets and all that jazz (all of which have been requested numerous times over the years), but when it changes how the base skills work there's definitely an unfair advantage cropping up. I mean the newer Classes (like Warden/Necro/Arcanist) and added skill lines (like Psijic and Antiquities for Mythics) have already been skirting P2W for the longest time now, but to full on change how basic core skills work (that have been in the game available to everyone for the last decade) and still lock it behind a paywall is really climbing over the edge in my opinion. 🤷♀️
*Edited to add: /rant
Lawl
About the pay-to-win nature... Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't the scribing quest line send you to a lot of DLC locations?
I mean... You can't even just buy Gold Road and hope to be able to complete the quest line, if you don't own other DLCs too or you are not subscribed to ESOPlus.
Surprised no one commented on this yet.
You don't need the DLCs to visit the mini areas of the quest. They're all enclosed and none require purchases beyond base game and Gold Road.
Oh, ok, I'll take your word on that. I don't remember well enough, just the fact I had to go to DLC zones at some point... My bad, I apologize.A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"0 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Scribing makes PVP P2Win. Shouldn't be allowed in PVP.
(1) It hasn't helped me win at PvP, but maybe I'm just not gud enuf to benefit from it.
(2) As a Stam-based character, my Scribed Two-Handed skill can actually be detrimental in both PvE and PvP, because it can't be used at all if an enemy uses Negate Magic on me. I assume that goes for all Scribed skills, regardless of whether they use Stamina or Magicka. I'm not sure how an entire set of skills which players can easily be cut off from using can be Pay2Win.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
EF321✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.1 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.5 -
Kisakee✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Way over 100 means how many? 200? 300? Unless we're talking 300 per hour (aka one every 12 seconds) you can barely consider this "farming".
Get a toon that has the green CP to harvest fast with a chance for double drop, can go around fast on food and is able to bypass most enemies and you'll see results:
Edited by Kisakee on July 13, 2024 10:07AMI'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.2 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Precisely. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the consistency of the poor luck versus good luck we’re seeing reported here in the forums has all the hallmark signs of an RNG bug. If static character or account IDs are used as part of the calculation, that could explain it.
Until we learn more about the issue, the most helpful thing those of you with good luck can do is simply empathize with us. A simple “that really sucks, it’s not right that you’re farming for an hour and getting 1-2 ink or even nothing, while I often get 12 or more in the same amount of time” helps. Just put yourself in other people’s shoes. I strongly suspect that those of you with 300-400+ ink at this point in time would be pretty darn frustrated if you’d been as unlucky as some of us have been with this system, through no fault of our own.5 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Way over 100 means how many? 200? 300? Unless we're talking 300 per hour (aka one every 12 seconds) you can barely consider this "farming".
Get a toon that has the green CP to harvest fast with a chance for double drop, can go around fast on food and is able to bypass most enemies and you'll see results:
Yes, I have movement speed cp, faster harvest, double harvest, adept rider, I do not slow down, stop, pass go.
I understand that some folk are trying to help, but holy heck, how hard is it to say "huh, some people are experiencing incredible bad luck/RNG, maybe there's an issue here!"6 -
CP5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ragnarok6644b14_ESO wrote: »I feel like people forget you can do the scribing quests all the way through on every character for 12 ink in a couple hours...
If you're out of ink, it doesn't take long to get more until you run out of alts. 12 ink for 2 hours of gameplay guaranteed isn't bad for your first 240 ink...
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Of course, when I say 2 hours I mean rushing on a character with all the wayshrines. YMMV
I did the quest on my main, who has all wayshrines unlocked up until the post Skyrim expansions. All of my other characters would take significantly longer to do those quest, and those quests are so mind-numbingly dull that I much rather go play a game that actually respects my time, than spend hours getting a small amount of a consumable resource through tedium.4 -
Erickson9610✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think that Luminous Ink should drop from more sources, rather than have an increased drop rate. How much time during our regular play do we spend doing other activities, which currently don't have a chance to drop ink? Our time would be better spent if we didn't place so much emphasis on grinding for ink, but rather had more opportunities to acquire it via regular play.
For instance, Update 43 is introducing the ability to find Luminous Ink from treasure chests and heavy sacks — that makes it more likely to acquire ink during dungeon/arena/trial runs, as you'd naturally loot those sources. PvP activities still don't have a chance to award Luminous Ink, but if they did, then players would spend more time playing what they wanted to play, rather than farming other sources for a chance at acquiring ink.PC/NA — Lone Werewolf, the Templar Khajiit Werewolf
Werewolf Should be Allowed to Sneak
Please give us Werewolf Skill Styles (for customizing our fur color), Grimoires/Scribing skills (to fill in the holes in our builds), and Companions (to transform with).1 -
Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Personally I have no issues with ink being rare/quite rare. As I always take things slow anyways, and ink will drop while just playing the game. Currently have 130ish ink, which isn't too bad.
PS: My scribing problem is with the scripts not being accountwide, and too much dumb work(dailies) to unlock them all for alts(20+ weeks at 9 scripts per day)! Really wish scripts dropped like ink, at random from any source so playing the game would get me the scripts. Maybe they should add that to the wing completes, scripts dropping in a curated way from the same sources ink does.0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Erickson9610 wrote: »I think that Luminous Ink should drop from more sources, rather than have an increased drop rate. How much time during our regular play do we spend doing other activities, which currently don't have a chance to drop ink? Our time would be better spent if we didn't place so much emphasis on grinding for ink, but rather had more opportunities to acquire it via regular play.
For instance, Update 43 is introducing the ability to find Luminous Ink from treasure chests and heavy sacks — that makes it more likely to acquire ink during dungeon/arena/trial runs, as you'd naturally loot those sources. PvP activities still don't have a chance to award Luminous Ink, but if they did, then players would spend more time playing what they wanted to play, rather than farming other sources for a chance at acquiring ink.
Or, add it to the daily loot table. One ink with the first repeatable daily completion of the day. Bam, easy. This immediately helps people who only have an hour or two to play, who’d rather do something they actually want to do during that time rather than wasting it mindlessly farming crafting nodes for one or two ink drops.5 -
Kisakee✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Way over 100 means how many? 200? 300? Unless we're talking 300 per hour (aka one every 12 seconds) you can barely consider this "farming".
Get a toon that has the green CP to harvest fast with a chance for double drop, can go around fast on food and is able to bypass most enemies and you'll see results:
Yes, I have movement speed cp, faster harvest, double harvest, adept rider, I do not slow down, stop, pass go.
I understand that some folk are trying to help, but holy heck, how hard is it to say "huh, some people are experiencing incredible bad luck/RNG, maybe there's an issue here!"
I'm working in customer service for 15 years now and most times someone claims that there's an issue it's not as they were doing it wrong. Unless you have proven that the mistake isn't on your side i'm not willing to accept that there's an issue at all.
Edit: Let's do some troubleshooting -
Did you know that 75% of ink drops come from ore nodes? No, not jewelry. Regular ore. Other nodes can drop it too but it's way less frequent.Edited by Kisakee on July 13, 2024 10:55AMI'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.3 -
N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wanted to update and say that I've got 3 Ink drops from just doing Randoms and Pledges so far today. That's the most I've had drop since Gold Road released.Edited by N00BxV1 on July 20, 2024 5:54AM2 -
EF321✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Way over 100 means how many? 200? 300? Unless we're talking 300 per hour (aka one every 12 seconds) you can barely consider this "farming".
Get a toon that has the green CP to harvest fast with a chance for double drop, can go around fast on food and is able to bypass most enemies and you'll see results:
Yes, I have movement speed cp, faster harvest, double harvest, adept rider, I do not slow down, stop, pass go.
I understand that some folk are trying to help, but holy heck, how hard is it to say "huh, some people are experiencing incredible bad luck/RNG, maybe there's an issue here!"
Until one of those will present us actual numbers like "2000 nodes, no ink", it's really hard to say anything about bad luck. The only screenshot from "cursed one" I ever saw was ~300 nodes (estimate) and 4 ink, which is in line with expected rate and doable in a bit more than 20 minutes of proper farming. If it took them significantly more time, that's on them. Saying "one hour, no ink" does not give any information about drop rates, so I can't say "Yep, bad luck", because I don't know how well person can farm and if all that time was really spent on farming.
"Way more than 100" doesn't say much. I had 200 nodes with no drop, that is not unexpected and nothing to worry about, It doesn't take me 2 hours, just 15 minutes (and I still got all the mats in the process). I never had 1000 nodes with no drop. I had no roe out of 600 fish and 3 roe out of 4 fish. RNG is RNG. In a long run it all evens out and some addon I have reports that my lifetime roe drop rate is ~1%, as is expected. In another thread we had a player that gave up after 20 nodes... and started complaining about bad luck.
All the "cursed" ones keep omitting actual number of nodes harvested and instead are giving meaningless information like "I farmed for 5 hours", "I harvested every node I saw, "I played normally", "I use speed gear", "I was on starter islands" no real numbers that would that would help us determine their drop rate. Players who presented numbers that matter, all reported similar results that were not bad...1 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭XIshtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Precisely. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the consistency of the poor luck versus good luck we’re seeing reported here in the forums has all the hallmark signs of an RNG bug. If static character or account IDs are used as part of the calculation, that could explain it.
Until we learn more about the issue, the most helpful thing those of you with good luck can do is simply empathize with us. A simple “that really sucks, it’s not right that you’re farming for an hour and getting 1-2 ink or even nothing, while I often get 12 or more in the same amount of time” helps. Just put yourself in other people’s shoes. I strongly suspect that those of you with 300-400+ ink at this point in time would be pretty darn frustrated if you’d been as unlucky as some of us have been with this system, through no fault of our own.
This. And I emphasized what I feel is the crux of the matter.2 -
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✭XIshtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Precisely. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the consistency of the poor luck versus good luck we’re seeing reported here in the forums has all the hallmark signs of an RNG bug. If static character or account IDs are used as part of the calculation, that could explain it.
Until we learn more about the issue, the most helpful thing those of you with good luck can do is simply empathize with us. A simple “that really sucks, it’s not right that you’re farming for an hour and getting 1-2 ink or even nothing, while I often get 12 or more in the same amount of time” helps. Just put yourself in other people’s shoes. I strongly suspect that those of you with 300-400+ ink at this point in time would be pretty darn frustrated if you’d been as unlucky as some of us have been with this system, through no fault of our own.
This. And I emphasized what I feel is the crux of the matter.
It's not about what time X you spent on location Y, it's about what you actually did. If you're not doing it the same way as people who have lots of ink you're not doing it efficently.I'm but a sarcastic beef jerky. Irony and cynicism are my parents. You've been warned.2 -
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✭✭✭XIshtarknows wrote: »A little off topic, but I'd like a title for accumulating the 500 ink. It's be interesting how long it takes to see someone with it
Less than a month
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8139855/#Comment_8139855
90 minutes of farming nodes this morning, with a plug in to help. No ink drops. Lord above, something is so broken with this RNG. Until the increase the drop rates, or fix those of us whom have broken RNG, I doubt I could finish that achievement in my lifetime.
90 minutes doesn't really say anything. How many nodes was that? We had people here who barely do 100 nodes in an hour and consider that farming.
It was non stop farming, node to node, using the plugin that makes giant neon signs above every plant. It was waaaay over 100 nodes. This is also after 80+ hours of play since Gold Road was released and finding 2 inks in Imp City in all that time.
For some of us, clearly not all of us, either for character or account, the RNG is broken for ink drops.
Precisely. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the consistency of the poor luck versus good luck we’re seeing reported here in the forums has all the hallmark signs of an RNG bug. If static character or account IDs are used as part of the calculation, that could explain it.
Until we learn more about the issue, the most helpful thing those of you with good luck can do is simply empathize with us. A simple “that really sucks, it’s not right that you’re farming for an hour and getting 1-2 ink or even nothing, while I often get 12 or more in the same amount of time” helps. Just put yourself in other people’s shoes. I strongly suspect that those of you with 300-400+ ink at this point in time would be pretty darn frustrated if you’d been as unlucky as some of us have been with this system, through no fault of our own.
This. And I emphasized what I feel is the crux of the matter.
It's not about what time X you spent on location Y, it's about what you actually did. If you're not doing it the same way as people who have lots of ink you're not doing it efficently.
Why should the system only be readily accessible to those who do this kind of farming? Anyone who doesn't have their face planted against resource nodes grinding away is heavily barred from this system, and even those who do grind can have horrible luck and get nothing. Twice so far in a few minutes waiting for friends for our dungeon runs I've gotten 2 ink from different resource nodes, but in the thousands of things I've killed since Gold Road I've gotten at least 1, maybe 2 ink from enemies, with an additional 1 or 2 from bosses. Is it good design that the only way to get ink is by heavily grinding, by grinding the 'right' way with a large amount of time committed, with no guarantee that your time will result in any gains?12
