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Should ZOS do another event like the Crafter’s Celebration?

  • SilverBride
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    I already said that I don't farm. And I already said that I don't participate in most events because there is nothing special about these constant back to back go get tickets and open coffers events.

    But I have event fatigue, as do many others, and our feedback is valid.

    Solution to event fatigue = don't do events . Zos doesn't have to stop giving events just because you don't want to do them. The solution is solved by choosing not to participate. Others do not have to be punished with no events because of people who don't want them.

    Event fatigue is a self induced situation and is solved by stepping away from the game, which you already are doing. Self control is important in gaming. Problem is already solved if the player chooses not to participate. You are not harmed by the existence of an event you don't have to do.

    Or ZoS could make events better so more people are interested and find them fun.
    Edited by SilverBride on February 17, 2024 11:39PM
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  • TagCdog
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    I appreciate any and all events that help me clear out writs and surveys.

    Honestly since writs, surveys, and treasure maps are essentially parchment and don't take up much physical space I think they should all stack in a bag (like the craft bag) that isn't your primary inventory and is shared across all characters. Adventuring is part of the game, and I feel like more of it can be done across all characters vs remembering to transfer the item to that specific character.
  • TheMajority
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    I already said that I don't farm. And I already said that I don't participate in most events because there is nothing special about these constant back to back go get tickets and open coffers events.

    But I have event fatigue, as do many others, and our feedback is valid.

    Solution to event fatigue = don't do events . Zos doesn't have to stop giving events just because you don't want to do them. The solution is solved by choosing not to participate. Others do not have to be punished with no events because of people who don't want them.

    Event fatigue is a self induced situation and is solved by stepping away from the game, which you already are doing. Self control is important in gaming. Problem is already solved if the player chooses not to participate. You are not harmed by the existence of an event you don't have to do.

    Or ZoS could make events better so more people are interested and find them fun.

    There will always be someone who does not find a particular event fun no matter how many other people find it fun and like it. This is simply the way games will always be. This event could definitely have been handled better and done better but event fatigue is never an excuse to take fun from others. Taking care of event fatigue is the responsibility of the user knowing when to take time off and do other things to make themselves comfortable and happy.
    Edited by TheMajority on February 18, 2024 12:30AM
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  • spartaxoxo
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    If your characters are already maxed in crafting, they can still get increased yields from resource nodes (if you like to harvest resource nodes)...

    I hate farming more than almost anything else in this game. This is one reason I'm in a trade guild... so I can afford to buy what I need and not have to spend my time doing something I don't enjoy.

    So don't farm, no one is making you farm. If less is more than you, then don't participate...then you get less. The existence of an event doesn't mean you have to participate just because others are. Not fun for you? Again, don't even log in or participate...its easy to avoid things you don't like in a game that is optional for your life.

    I already said that I don't farm. And I already said that I don't participate in most events because there is nothing special about these constant back to back go get tickets and open coffers events.

    But I have event fatigue, as do many others, and our feedback is valid.

    Yeah but this type of event does NOT have event tickets or coffers. So it seems like a good way to address event fatigue. These are skippable without missing out on literally anything. It's too small of a boost if you weren't already into this activity.

    So it's a fun event for those that like events. And it's an easy to skip and not feel any fomo for those that have event fatigue.

    So, I think this is an amazing compromise for someone who is getting tired of how formulaic events feel.

    I want less fomo events about collecting things (but not an end to them all) and more things that just introduce new gameplay options OR just give a small boost to what we're already doing. This event is the latter. I don't want events taken from others but rather for there to be more variety and less reliant on fomo collecting. That's just how I personally feel.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on February 18, 2024 12:39AM
  • jad11mumbler
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    OR just give a small boost to what we're already doing. This event is the latter. I don't want events taken from others but rather for there to be more variety and less reliant on fomo collecting. That's just how I personally feel.


    Boost so small it's negligible.
    Edited by jad11mumbler on February 18, 2024 12:45AM
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  • SilverBride
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Yeah but this type of event does NOT have event tickets or coffers. So it seems like a good way to address event fatigue. These are skippable without missing out on literally anything. It's too small of a boost if you weren't already into this activity.

    So it's a fun event for those that like events. And it's an easy to skip and not feel any fomo for those that have event fatigue.

    So, I think this is an amazing compromise for someone who is getting tired of how formulaic events feel.

    I want less fomo events about collecting things (but not an end to them all) and more things that just introduce new gameplay options OR just give a small boost to what we're already doing. This event is the latter. I don't want events taken from others but rather for there to be more variety and less reliant on fomo collecting. That's just how I personally feel.

    I don't have fomo ever and it is not hard for me to just skip events I don't care for. (Which is most of them now.)

    I just believe that making events so common that we barely finish one before another starts really diminishes the special feel they once had.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    OR just give a small boost to what we're already doing. This event is the latter. I don't want events taken from others but rather for there to be more variety and less reliant on fomo collecting. That's just how I personally feel.


    Boost so small it's negligible.

    Yeah and that's a good thing imo. It's not something I'd want to go out of my way for but I did some extra characters on the writs, levelled my Arcanist to 50 enchanting, and would have reconstructed some gear if the boost could have stayed. That's a nice little crafting weekend.
  • spartaxoxo
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Yeah but this type of event does NOT have event tickets or coffers. So it seems like a good way to address event fatigue. These are skippable without missing out on literally anything. It's too small of a boost if you weren't already into this activity.

    So it's a fun event for those that like events. And it's an easy to skip and not feel any fomo for those that have event fatigue.

    So, I think this is an amazing compromise for someone who is getting tired of how formulaic events feel.

    I want less fomo events about collecting things (but not an end to them all) and more things that just introduce new gameplay options OR just give a small boost to what we're already doing. This event is the latter. I don't want events taken from others but rather for there to be more variety and less reliant on fomo collecting. That's just how I personally feel.

    I don't have fomo ever and it is not hard for me to just skip events I don't care for. (Which is most of them now.)

    I just believe that making events so common that we barely finish one before another starts really diminishes the special feel they once had.

    You might not but it's a huge market driver. A lot of us enjoy collecting things to make complete collections. Some people actually for real will salty if they miss out on something. It's a major part of the events.

    I don't personally understand how this event cheapens say the anniversary event. They don't have any of the same prizes or gameplay. Is it just the back to back nature for you? Or is there something else I'm missing?
  • SilverBride
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I don't personally understand how this event cheapens say the anniversary event. They don't have any of the same prizes or gameplay. Is it just the back to back nature for you? Or is there something else I'm missing.

    It's not just this event... which isn't even a real event, but more like "Here's some extra resources and crafting experience". Then they didn't even touch research, which takes way longer than just leveling a craft to 50.

    But the biggest problem for me is that there is barely any time between events any more and that makes them feel much less special.

    What if we had Christmas once a month? How special would that feel?
    Edited by SilverBride on February 18, 2024 2:02AM
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  • TaSheen
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I don't personally understand how this event cheapens say the anniversary event. They don't have any of the same prizes or gameplay. Is it just the back to back nature for you? Or is there something else I'm missing.

    It's not just this event... which isn't even a real event, but more like "Here's some extra resources and crafting experience". Then they didn't even touch research, which takes way longer than just leveling a craft to 50.

    But the biggest problem for me is that there is barely any time between events any more and that makes them feel much less special.

    What if we had Christmas once a month? How special would that feel?

    Um. I would LOVE Christmas all year personally. I love the tree, the decorating, the ambience.....
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  • TheMajority
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I don't personally understand how this event cheapens say the anniversary event. They don't have any of the same prizes or gameplay. Is it just the back to back nature for you? Or is there something else I'm missing.

    It's not just this event... which isn't even a real event, but more like "Here's some extra resources and crafting experience". Then they didn't even touch research, which takes way longer than just leveling a craft to 50.

    But the biggest problem for me is that there is barely any time between events any more and that makes them feel much less special.

    What if we had Christmas once a month? How special would that feel?

    Why do you need to not have an event for an event you like to be special? That doesn't make sense. By choosing not to play an event you don't want to play, the other event you want to play still retains it's worth. I don't see why things should be taken away from others so that something can feel special to you. You aren't even participating so why does it matter that it exists?

    It's the anniversary of the game we're supposed to have lots of events...for some people having a lot of events back to back is special to them.

    Events exist to keep players amused, I think its fine that they're close together.

    Since events don't repeat once a month and its always a different theme, its not a problem.
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  • SilverBride
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    This poll asked if we want another event like this one. My answer is no and it's not going to change.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    I don't personally understand how this event cheapens say the anniversary event. They don't have any of the same prizes or gameplay. Is it just the back to back nature for you? Or is there something else I'm missing.

    It's not just this event... which isn't even a real event, but more like "Here's some extra resources and crafting experience". Then they didn't even touch research, which takes way longer than just leveling a craft to 50.

    But the biggest problem for me is that there is barely any time between events any more and that makes them feel much less special.

    What if we had Christmas once a month? How special would that feel?

    Fair enough. Yeah, this event definitely I think could have done more. Reduced research timers next time would be pretty awesome.
  • Daoin
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    i am already missing the extras as im on my way somewhere harvesting everthing i see. and with alchemy ingredients really the only thing i need gold for on a regular basis the extra columbine is very nice.
  • Moonsprite
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    I like the event. I got to level up alchemy, enchanting, and provisioning to 50 on 2 characters. I also like getting extra mats. Mats are expensive and getting more from refining is a huge bonus for me.

    I would have liked an announcement earlier. I could have stocked up on more intricate items to decon. Now the price of buying intricate items, especially jewelry, has gone up so much. The bonus inspiration doesn’t matter if you pay 5xs for one intricate item that only gives 2xs the inspiration. It’s not cost saving at this point.
  • tincanman
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    Ambivalent.

    It's not really a 'crafter' event more of a 'farmer' event since the only thing that has reliably worked as advertised is increased/double resource nodes.

    Add to that 'event' fatigue and the apparent lack of planning/testing, it just seems to have created more false hope and confusion. And highlighted, again, the constant problem zos has with communication or its lack...

    I'm pretty sure most players read the initial '100% writ vouchers' as a giant bonus for ALL master writs currently possessed and hoped it would help a lot towards getting the Grand Master craft tables bought/filled - that would definitely have been something to get excited about. So, it was INCREDIBLY disappointing to discover that any extra writ vouchers gained were going to be marginal at best, even with maximum grind of craft dailies for the few days of the event, given that, once the redacted text(s) had been clarified, that it was only master writs generated during the event that counted.

    The fiasco with transmutes undeniably illustrated the complete absence of any testing and the 'solution' of just removing it entirely was pretty much more 'false hopes and confusion' for the players.

    So what initially appeared to be a really great suprise turned out to be...not.



  • katanagirl1
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    This and the other double mat event, I think it was called the Explorer’s Event, are my favorite type of event. No tickets, no pressure, just do what I like to do and get more stuff. If I don’t have time one or more days then I don’t really lose anything.
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  • The_Boggart
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    Double value nodes
    Four times a many farmers make this a very boring "event"
  • Sluggy
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    This game means different things to different players. There's nothing wrong with events that some don't find interesting. Personally I have zero interest in this event but I'd never vote to take it away from someone that does have interest. And as for the bugs - well if we cancelled every event that suffered from that there wouldn't be many left, would there?
  • Twig_Garlicshine
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    Crafter event should include a reduction of material requirements in crafting for housing.
    Just doing sets ignores a large portion of crafting.
  • quinancia
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    I thought it was fine. None of the bonuses really helped me, but still the minor changes are fun. Maybe they need a different label for minor weekend mini events.
  • CoronHR
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    i enjoyed it because i got a lot of master writs and i like doing those
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  • fizzylu
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    quinancia wrote: »
    Maybe they need a different label for minor weekend mini events.
    Exactly, I wouldn't even call it an event. To me it was no different than how in WoW, players are given a passive that increases some reputation/experience gains. It's not an event or celebration, just a little bonus given to players to help them to catch up or farm something. The crafter's "event" functioned in that same way of just passively increasing what I got out of doing things that I would have been doing anyway and it wouldn't hurt to see more things like this at all.
  • Dax_Draconis
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    It doesn't matter to me if they do another or not, but since I don't have an army of crafting alts, I didn't seem to benefit from it. If I did get any master writs on my 2 characters, they were garbage and not worth doing.
  • Roztlin45
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    It seems obvious, in order to effectively farm you need craft bag. Craft bag = eso plus. Eso plus = revenue for the game. These servers don't run on your special presence. So this event was a win for people.that like to harvest , and the game company I wish to keep around.
  • peacenote
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    Why not? :)

    That said, it could be improved. I was disappointed that there didn’t seem to be an advantage to master crafters for doing writs. The event was kind of short for benefits from deconstructing to be impactful.

    But I can't complain, really. It doesn't hurt to have a few surprises, and it is better for them to be not TOO good so people don't worry about missing out.
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  • BXR_Lonestar
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    Yes, they should do another event like this, but it should actually work. I was going to do writs on several characters to take advantage of the event, but after a day and a half, I quickly discovered that it wasn't working for me. These were the issues I experienced:

    1. According to the event flyer that comes up when I log into the game, I was supposed to be able to reconstruct gear for half transmute costs. However, I reconstructed 3 sets I've been wanting to try - but all at normal transmute cost. There was no 50% reduction in transmute cost.

    2. We were supposed to get double writ vouchers for master writs done during the event. I did master writ vouchers I had stored up AND master writs that I earned during the event - both yielded just the normal number of writ vouchers that were stated on the master writ.

    3. It's hard to quantify this one because its also based on RNG, but I didn't see a noticeable uptick in upgrade materials gained from deconning gear or from refining raw materials. Both were supposed to have increased chances during the event. However, given the issues above, I just assumed this was not working for me.

    The event was actually fantastic - in theory. It would have been nice if it actually worked.
  • BXR_Lonestar
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    What would have helped me is if this would have included a cut in research times.

    I gave up on research years ago but decided to pick it back up and finish on my main crafter. Even with the scrolls it still takes forever. And I never understood why.

    It takes roughly a year to research all of the traits, maybe a little over. Its something that takes some dedication to be honest, but it is not that hard. Level up your skills to reduce the research time as much as you can and just remember before you decon stuff to go see if you can research anything. Buy Nirnhoned in stores if you need to research Nirnhoned.

    I've seen you active on these forums long enough to have had everything researched twice over if you really wanted to finish it. And everyone should want at least one crafter character because it makes it so much easier to outfit your other characters with high-grade gear.
  • ujimax
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    Can we have events with massive raid bosses invading Tamriel's cities one-shotting people around town which would require people to fight them off instead of doing their daily business? Or have the surrounding Cyrodiil territories become PVP-zones depending on the state of Gray Host when an alliance loses control of their gate keeps. This would be cool. AROX WOULD APPROVE!
  • Indigo_Shade
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    Yes, but only if they manage them better.
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